[MikeysOTP]

By the way, how do you know that the comp nsr cams will outperform them if they don't even exist yet? I would like to know where these 7 sets went to since noone is talking. Like I said, I believe nothing that I hear about these things at this point.

[07 procharger]

what do you mean...I have set comeing from RAD Mustangs

[tribaltek]

He meant the FRPP cams...

[07 procharger]

oh okie dokie

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by MikeysOTP Look at the Brenspeed dyno graph, power loss to about 4500 rpm. A tech at Ford racing told me that the hot rod cams don't lose anything down low. Do I necessarily believe him? I never said that. These cams are about as real as a unicorn as far as I am concerned. Sutton is taking orders for them, although they have never had them, seen them, or know when they are coming out. Justin Burcham supposedly has them in that white car on Youtube but he told me that the cams in that car REQUIRED springs. People can believe what they want, I want some proof. Then I will buy them immediately, regardless of how much power they make, I want the idle. The track won't let me run under 13.5 without a six point cage in my vert anyway.

I have my own dyno, I don't need brenspeeds. Look its fine, get the cams you want. Im pointing out my own power numbers. I didnt loose low end power. The car that BRENSPEED tested is an automatic. so where it may or may not have gained or lost power is different. Another thing about brenspeed is they did nothing to change the power curve, look at it, it mirrors the previous run. My car pulls to 6500 now where their car is dropping off at 6000. Why is that? and my torq is way different.

listen this isnt rocket science, there is a reason why those cams chop and a reason why they dont make as much power, and the reason is the same.

Justin told you that the cams in that car require springs? I know justin, and I know what he got in that car, with those cams. And that was with him dyno tuning on the car, not just dropping them in, And the comp cams just dropped in with no tuning outperformed them, period. That isnt what i heard from my second cousin sally's boyfreind, its what i witnessed on the same dyno that the white car with the frpp cams was dynoed on, tuned by the same person.

But look this doesnt have to be a which is better argument, you want the lope get the frpp cams. Im happy with my car, especially when guys race me. get what makes you happy with yours. peace brother.

[silverstang]

the 7 or so sets of cams that i was refering about is true...........i was told directly buy a man at FRPP that was WATCHING them box the things up and ship them out........who got them? hell, i have no clue..........but he might have been a liar, but i doubt somebody that actually works there is lying to customers, but who knows?

Cant wait to hear back from you 07stanggt.

[07stanggt]

just waiting on an engineer to call me back. Friday is a bad day to call comp. I dont know why but everytime i call them on friday they are slammed.

[tribaltek]

I'm down with a copycat grind from Comp Cams as well 07stanggt. Keep me posted and I will put them in with the rest of my order.

[07stanggt]

cool

[rakkassan34]

Hopefully they'll go to sutton racing. I was told I'm no2 on the waiting list. Once I get them on you'll be able to check them out when I go to Ben Bruce Mem raceway.

[silverstang]

SCREW YOU rakkassan34, i wanna be the first guy around here with a s197 that has that cammed sound.........i know other ppl with cams, but not the kick ass "sound" of a cam lol............j/k, if you get them, you BETTER let me hear that shit. Im still waitin on 07stanggt to get back with me about comp, but the last time i tried to call them, i was on hold for like 3 days lol (comp that is)

[tribaltek]

Want... cams... now!!!

[05mustang_kb_charged]

Originally Posted by silverstang SCREW YOU rakkassan34, i wanna be the first guy around here with a s197 that has that cammed sound.........i know other ppl with cams, but not the kick ass "sound" of a cam lol.

What a sound like this...

[IMG]http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc219/05mu...

or this...

[IMG]http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc219/05mu...

[tribaltek]

05kb - What cams are those?

[07stanggt]

he has bbr stage II cams. But he is also stroked.

[silverstang]

yea thats the sound im talkin about.........but i have heard BBR stage 2s are not too good with a n/a application.........am i correct?.........also, i love the way the BBR stage 2s sound, but i want to stick with an NSR cam as of now.

[05mustang_kb_charged]

I wouldn't go with the BBR St. 2's unless you were FI. People say they work well with NA but they were designed for FI. I would go with the NSR cams if I wasn't looking for every bit of HP I could get. I could definitely tell the car struggled to get going with the 3.55 gears I had and was planning on changing them before I broke the rear end. I ordered the 9" with 3.89 gears to help get the car moving when I wasn't in boost.

[silverstang]

i just want a freakin cam that is going to give me a little more power, but i want people to know it has cams in it. thats all i am asking for, what is wrong with this world!?!? lol

[07 procharger]

Comp NSR Stage 2 then...

[silverstang]

but i want a chop that the comp NSR stage 2s dont have............something like the FRPP cams, but 07stang is lookin' into it for me.