4.10 gears

TheUNZippee! · February 13th, 2007, 09:39 AM

Thanks L33T.

2k05gt · February 13th, 2007, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by L33T

I've got the Carbon Fiber drive shaft right here in my closet I can take some pics of it and post them up. They are rated at 1000+ horsepower so yeah they can take a beating.

Also on 4:10's, don't do it if you are going forced induction, you are just shooting yourself in the foot because you get in and out of the boost too fast.

Anyone looking to buy a set of FRPP 4:10's PM me, I'll sell them for cheap.
I'm going back to 3:55's now that I'm blown.

Gimme a few and put up pics of the shaft.

You are 100% correct, a Street car with boost 3.55 Max if you want a track / street monster 3.73 max both Manual and Auto. If you want a Total Track Monster with Boost 4.10, but you will need Slicks

BTW, I was looking at the CF Driveshaft I think it is better than the aluminum ones for sale, what is the cost difference? Also I think the CF will work better with automatics somthing about harminics, which was the reason Ford went with the Very Heavy Two peice setup. Nice pics let us know how you like it.

wormster00 · February 13th, 2007, 03:26 PM

Hey, L33T? Why you selling those 4.10s?

By the way, I've had my 05GT (manual) for 1 year and I'm looking to SLOWLY add some performance mods. I teach in NC so $ is NOT falling outta my hiney (AND I'm a family man so you know...).

I WAS going to go the axle back route for the 1st mod, but I think I've settled on the 4.10s. I WAS going to do the 3.73's but I read in a previous forum here at MM that the difference in rpms and gas mileage b/w the 2 are minimal. And let's face it... if you're going to the trouble of swapping gears, it may as well be one that is WELL noticeable.

By the way, my mechanic brother-in-law will be doing the swap... I'm assuming that I need the install kit too?

Turning off traction control,
Jeff

L33T · February 13th, 2007, 03:40 PM

I'm selling them because I've got a supercharger and I can't stay in the sweet spots long enough because of the 4:10's.

I want my 3.55's back!

Coltdog · February 13th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Yeah, the 4.10's installed correctly should not make anymore noise than the stock 3.55's. If you are planning on installing a supercharger down the road, though, you may want to stick to the 3.55's to make sure you get hooked up. The 3.55's w/a supercharger is the right match.

TheUNZippee! · February 14th, 2007, 02:21 AM

I've read more than one test on blown stangs, even the shelby's, running 4:10's and even 4:30's (The Shelby 500's come with 3:31's), that say nothing but good things about them when it comes to pulling. It definitely makes the car harder to hook up, but that's what suspension mods and sticky tires are for.

manOwar · February 14th, 2007, 06:42 AM

Gears are a torque multiplier, thats it. To much gear, you'll be quick meaning your 60' times will be low but your trap speed will lower and you could run out of gear.
Not enough gear will do just the oppisite. Slow out of the hole and have High 60' times but your trap speeds could be high and you may not use all your gear. Ever seen car run a 12 sec. 1/4 with a trap speed of 120+? Not enough gear to get out of the hole!!

Things you should consider when choosing gears, Power to weight ratio Tire size and what your using the car for.

I picked 3.90, my car will weighs bout' 4100-200 lbs, make 700whp (820hp at the flywheel) and about 660wtq. It should be a nice set up for 10.00 1/4 mile @ 140mph. 1/8 mile, I'd run a 4.56 and if I wanted to roll race on the street, I'd go with a 3.55.

I race 4 wheel drives also. I run 4.88's in a 4600 lbs, Big Block powered F150. It spins the tires at 50-60mph while pushing mud with the bumper and shooting mud 30' in the air. It's a lot of fun when I'm not breakin' shit!

Gear selection makes a huge difference depending on what you want to do.

07BossGT · February 14th, 2007, 10:36 AM

Thank you, ManOwar! Great explaination! Nobody could've said it any better than that!

flattusmaximus78 · February 14th, 2007, 10:02 PM

Tdog your arguement makes about no sense. Even with a large amount of bolt ons... a stock gt with just gears will eat you up. for much less money to.

Jucostud · February 14th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Tdog your arguement makes about no sense. Even with a large amount of bolt ons... a stock gt with just gears will eat you up. for much less money to.

Not true. We have 3.55's stock. If you are going to get FI then you don't need gears. If you are going to just get bolt ons then gears maybe a little more important, only if your getting 4.10's. I would take the mustang with bolt ons against your stock gt with gears anyday. I see you posting in this part of the forum all the time. Do you even own an 05-07 mustang? Your dads doesn't count.

flattusmaximus78 · February 15th, 2007, 06:19 AM

No I work with my dad on his and get plenty of time behind the wheel. Thats pretty gay to try and single someone out cause I don't own one. I drove my dad's when it had ud, tune, x-pipe, thottle body and a cold air intake... with that in the car alone vs his car with 4:10's it would just get smashed.

flattusmaximus78 · February 15th, 2007, 06:22 AM

I didn't Know that I wasn't aloud to post in this section cause I drive a v6 but work with my dads on his but I guess I need to just leave.

L33T · February 15th, 2007, 06:55 AM

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07BossGT · February 15th, 2007, 07:11 AM

You can stay!!! You can stay!!!! No need to leave. I'll post with ya!

FastBack71 · February 15th, 2007, 07:24 AM

jucostud who are u?? u know how many people are on this forum that dont own mustang gts? I own a mustang gt/cs should i leave and go to a different special forum??

Jucostud · February 15th, 2007, 09:33 AM

never said anyone had to leave, just think you should have to own one in order to give advise on one!

07BossGT · February 15th, 2007, 09:54 AM

I'd agree... unless you've REALLY done your homework like I did before I bought one. But even homework can't give you the rush of mashin' the gas on your own stang!

flattusmaximus78 · February 15th, 2007, 08:05 PM

Look I drive my dads car at least twice a week. It's close to full bolt on minus mufflers and headers. It also has gears. On my own and with my dad I researched this car nose to the tail end. Just cause I drive a v6 doesn't mean I don't have the right mind to suggest anything. The topic at hand is 4:10's. I've driven car's with 3:73's and 4:10's and I've driven both with stock gear ratio's. With that being said I think my opinion will hold a little water. have you driven a car with 4:10's... if not you'll never understand why there worth it.

McMillin · February 15th, 2007, 08:06 PM

Hey flattusmaximus78 don't go I kinda like the father son familly thing, my son has an 05 v6 it was'nt until I drove his car that I wanted to get one for my wife and I. Your sig with the pics of both cars in it I was thinking of doing that same thing but Im not sure how to do it. I'll see if I can get my son to help me get some pics of our cars on here. later JM

07BossGT · February 15th, 2007, 08:09 PM

My '07 has 4.10's and they

!!!!!!

February 13th, 2007, 09:39 AM	#41
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February 13th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#43
wormster00 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 89	4.10 gears Hey, L33T? Why you selling those 4.10s? By the way, I've had my 05GT (manual) for 1 year and I'm looking to SLOWLY add some performance mods. I teach in NC so $ is NOT falling outta my hiney (AND I'm a family man so you know...). I WAS going to go the axle back route for the 1st mod, but I think I've settled on the 4.10s. I WAS going to do the 3.73's but I read in a previous forum here at MM that the difference in rpms and gas mileage b/w the 2 are minimal. And let's face it... if you're going to the trouble of swapping gears, it may as well be one that is WELL noticeable. By the way, my mechanic brother-in-law will be doing the swap... I'm assuming that I need the install kit too? Turning off traction control, Jeff

February 14th, 2007, 02:21 AM	#46
TheUNZippee! Mods Are People Too! 2007 Mustang GT 282 rwhp/292 rwtq Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: I've got Rags in my bubble and I don't know what to do with it! Posts: 15,182	I've read more than one test on blown stangs, even the shelby's, running 4:10's and even 4:30's (The Shelby 500's come with 3:31's), that say nothing but good things about them when it comes to pulling. It definitely makes the car harder to hook up, but that's what suspension mods and sticky tires are for. __________________ Dyno Pull/MBRP's - The pee Test My Mods Keep your flaming in the Burnout Box if you want to remain a MM member.

February 14th, 2007, 10:36 AM	#48
07BossGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 207	Thank you, ManOwar! Great explaination! Nobody could've said it any better than that! __________________ '07 Grabber Orange GT 5-spd Just got it 12/26/06 Tinted Windows 4.10 Gears A WHOLE LOTTA FUN!!!

February 14th, 2007, 10:02 PM	#49
flattusmaximus78 Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 5.ohhhh 14.47 at 96 mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 2,937	Tdog your arguement makes about no sense. Even with a large amount of bolt ons... a stock gt with just gears will eat you up. for much less money to. __________________ 302 h/c/i

February 13th, 2007, 03:40 PM	#44
L33T Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 732	I'm selling them because I've got a supercharger and I can't stay in the sweet spots long enough because of the 4:10's. I want my 3.55's back!

February 13th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#45
Coltdog Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 102	Yeah, the 4.10's installed correctly should not make anymore noise than the stock 3.55's. If you are planning on installing a supercharger down the road, though, you may want to stick to the 3.55's to make sure you get hooked up. The 3.55's w/a supercharger is the right match.

February 14th, 2007, 06:42 AM	#47
manOwar Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S.E. Ga working in Baghdad Posts: 398	Gears are a torque multiplier, thats it. To much gear, you'll be quick meaning your 60' times will be low but your trap speed will lower and you could run out of gear. Not enough gear will do just the oppisite. Slow out of the hole and have High 60' times but your trap speeds could be high and you may not use all your gear. Ever seen car run a 12 sec. 1/4 with a trap speed of 120+? Not enough gear to get out of the hole!! Things you should consider when choosing gears, Power to weight ratio Tire size and what your using the car for. I picked 3.90, my car will weighs bout' 4100-200 lbs, make 700whp (820hp at the flywheel) and about 660wtq. It should be a nice set up for 10.00 1/4 mile @ 140mph. 1/8 mile, I'd run a 4.56 and if I wanted to roll race on the street, I'd go with a 3.55. I race 4 wheel drives also. I run 4.88's in a 4600 lbs, Big Block powered F150. It spins the tires at 50-60mph while pushing mud with the bumper and shooting mud 30' in the air. It's a lot of fun when I'm not breakin' shit! Gear selection makes a huge difference depending on what you want to do.

February 15th, 2007, 06:19 AM	#51
flattusmaximus78 Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 5.ohhhh 14.47 at 96 mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 2,937	No I work with my dad on his and get plenty of time behind the wheel. Thats pretty gay to try and single someone out cause I don't own one. I drove my dad's when it had ud, tune, x-pipe, thottle body and a cold air intake... with that in the car alone vs his car with 4:10's it would just get smashed. __________________ 302 h/c/i

February 15th, 2007, 06:22 AM	#52
flattusmaximus78 Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 5.ohhhh 14.47 at 96 mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 2,937	I didn't Know that I wasn't aloud to post in this section cause I drive a v6 but work with my dads on his but I guess I need to just leave. __________________ 302 h/c/i

February 15th, 2007, 07:11 AM	#54
07BossGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 207	You can stay!!! You can stay!!!! No need to leave. I'll post with ya! __________________ '07 Grabber Orange GT 5-spd Just got it 12/26/06 Tinted Windows 4.10 Gears A WHOLE LOTTA FUN!!!

February 15th, 2007, 07:24 AM	#55
FastBack71 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589	jucostud who are u?? u know how many people are on this forum that dont own mustang gts? I own a mustang gt/cs should i leave and go to a different special forum?? __________________ My friends used to wonder Why i joined the air force. Now they wonder why they didn't.

February 15th, 2007, 09:33 AM	#56
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February 15th, 2007, 09:54 AM	#57
07BossGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 207	I'd agree... unless you've REALLY done your homework like I did before I bought one. But even homework can't give you the rush of mashin' the gas on your own stang! __________________ '07 Grabber Orange GT 5-spd Just got it 12/26/06 Tinted Windows 4.10 Gears A WHOLE LOTTA FUN!!!

February 15th, 2007, 08:05 PM	#58
flattusmaximus78 Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 5.ohhhh 14.47 at 96 mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 2,937	Look I drive my dads car at least twice a week. It's close to full bolt on minus mufflers and headers. It also has gears. On my own and with my dad I researched this car nose to the tail end. Just cause I drive a v6 doesn't mean I don't have the right mind to suggest anything. The topic at hand is 4:10's. I've driven car's with 3:73's and 4:10's and I've driven both with stock gear ratio's. With that being said I think my opinion will hold a little water. have you driven a car with 4:10's... if not you'll never understand why there worth it. __________________ 302 h/c/i

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February 15th, 2007, 08:06 PM	#59
McMillin Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 96	Hey flattusmaximus78 don't go I kinda like the father son familly thing, my son has an 05 v6 it was'nt until I drove his car that I wanted to get one for my wife and I. Your sig with the pics of both cars in it I was thinking of doing that same thing but Im not sure how to do it. I'll see if I can get my son to help me get some pics of our cars on here. later JM

February 15th, 2007, 08:09 PM	#60
07BossGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 207	My '07 has 4.10's and they !!!!!! __________________ '07 Grabber Orange GT 5-spd Just got it 12/26/06 Tinted Windows 4.10 Gears A WHOLE LOTTA FUN!!!