Someone has got to know....

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Well guys, I just bought a motorcycle so I can keep miles off Barricade and start to restore her (paint, etc). On that note, I do not have the money for the supercharger right now but will in a year or so. With that, I have decided to run a 125 wet shot starting around Christmas time. I am leaving my car in Texas while I go to school in Cali and will ride my bike there. I will be taking my car to the track very frequently when I am back for the holidays (christmas, summer, thanksgiving, spring break, etc.) So with that in mind (not being a DD anymore), I want some advice running nitrous. I have been doing some homework on the systems a PRETTY MUCH know what I want to do.

I have heard that these cars do not need a fuel pump upgrade until a 150 shot. Any thoughts on this? I am going to run the jets close to the throttle body because I want the nitrous to hit hard

. I plan on using a bottle warmer. I want to use a button to activate the nitrous, not half throttle initiation. What does a window switch do? How does it operate? Nitrous is one of the few things I don't know much about on these cars.

Basically, I need someone to educate me on nitrous setups, not how it works. Any input is appreciated!!!

PS- Rstrick was very nice to answer my questions and I appreciate all his help on this matter thus far

06RedfireGT · July 17th, 2008, 02:03 PM

I have heard that these cars do not need a fuel pump upgrade until a 150 shot. Any thoughts on this?

You shouldn't need an fuel upgrades on the stock motor.

I am going to run the jets close to the throttle body because I want the nitrous to hit hard . I plan on using a bottle warmer. I want to use a button to activate the nitrous, not half throttle initiation.

The best way to do it is through a WOT switch. That is the safest way.

What does a window switch do? How does it operate?

A window switch will spray the nitrous from a pre-programed RPM range. It is typically 3000-5800. You don't want to spray below 3000rpm, and it will stop at 5800 so you can shift safely.

The Nytrex Triple Threat Kit is the best kit for the S197s IMO. It is a more complete kit than the rest.

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 02:16 PM

rstrick told me that kit was good as well. I have heard that the Zex kits are more complete with a fuel shutoff, etc...any thought?

Ok, I understand what a window switch does now. But, what is the best way to actually spray? Botton?

06RedfireGT · July 17th, 2008, 02:27 PM

The best way to actually activate the nitrous is with a WOT switch. You floor it and it sprays. A WOT switch is more consistent. That is the way everybody does it.

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 02:35 PM

hmm. ok well I want to be able to floor my car without activating the nitrous...possible?

Emay · July 17th, 2008, 02:53 PM

Mickey of hardcore going to school, isn't hardcore payin the bills so you can just play Barricade all day???

All kidding aside, you didn't really state what window switches you were thinking about. There's a few of them out there now and there's a few variances with each.

You no longer need to run a button in these cars, there are window switches that also read WOT voltage now, I run one on my intercooler sprayer now and it does all the work for me. Because it is only an intercooler sprayer I run my RPM from 2500 to 6000 as it can't affect traction not being pushed into the motor.

You can also get window switches with both of those features plus gear engagement parameters. Instead of the window switch coming on at 3000rpm in all gears, you lock out first and it only fires for 2,3 and 4. On a 5 speed it just ignores the first cycle of RPM reading from 3000 to 6000 and engages the first time the rpm level your to the redline input and comes below.

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 03:16 PM

I actually "retired" from HCM so I could concentrate on my studies more.

Thanks for the input. I DO want to bypass first and do not want to spray in that gear if possible. With that, what switch should I get? I am just not understanding what I do to operate the spray

Emay · July 17th, 2008, 03:25 PM

I'll get you some part number and manufacturer info..

Typically to operate the spray with the above wot window switch, you want a purge of course to get a good solid initial hit and a nitrous armed switch for turn on.. The window switch does everything else for you, you just mash the gas.

tribaltek · July 17th, 2008, 03:31 PM

This thread should school me a bit in case I take the plunge (still trying to hold off until next year though).

Mickey - How old are you anyways?

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by tribaltek

This thread should school me a bit in case I take the plunge (still trying to hold off until next year though).

Mickey - How old are you anyways?

I will let you guess before I take the plunge!!!

Erin, that would be much appreciated!

BWAL09 · July 17th, 2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey@HardcoreMustangs

hmm. ok well I want to be able to floor my car without activating the nitrous...possible?

just don't arm the nitrous.

Emay · July 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM

Cheapest and easiest one to use, simple hook up, WOT detection, RPM activation.. end all answer to you being only a pedal masher:

Nitrous Outlet Product Details - Brand X Single Stage Window Switch

Dual stage of the above witha multi gear lock out:

Nitrous Outlet Product Details - Nitrous Outlet Digital Dual Window Switch

06RedfireGT · July 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey@HardcoreMustangs

hmm. ok well I want to be able to floor my car without activating the nitrous...possible?

Yes, your car behaves just like it would without nitrous until you arm the system.

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Ok, starting to make sense. I really appreciate the help gents.

tribaltek · July 17th, 2008, 03:58 PM

28?

Originally Posted by Mickey@HardcoreMustangs

I will let you guess before I take the plunge!!!

Modified88Dreamer · July 17th, 2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey@HardcoreMustangs

I will let you guess before I take the plunge!!!

Erin, that would be much appreciated!

Originally Posted by tribaltek

28?

I'll say 31 . Don't know much about Naw so with that said, PEACE!

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 04:09 PM

I thought you would be closer. I am 19

Emay · July 17th, 2008, 04:15 PM

Youngin

Mickey@HardcoreMustangs · July 17th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Yes I am. I like it better when people don't know my age because they treat you the same.

tribaltek · July 17th, 2008, 04:24 PM

19? Holy crap! Before you told me you were going to school a few days ago I thought you were in your 30's!

How in the hell do you afford the barricade at 19? At 19 I had a 1988 Chevy Beretta with a bad trans and blown out interior

Anyways... congrats on having a bad ass car so young. And good luck with school!

July 17th, 2008, 01:32 PM	#1
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	Someone has got to know.... Well guys, I just bought a motorcycle so I can keep miles off Barricade and start to restore her (paint, etc). On that note, I do not have the money for the supercharger right now but will in a year or so. With that, I have decided to run a 125 wet shot starting around Christmas time. I am leaving my car in Texas while I go to school in Cali and will ride my bike there. I will be taking my car to the track very frequently when I am back for the holidays (christmas, summer, thanksgiving, spring break, etc.) So with that in mind (not being a DD anymore), I want some advice running nitrous. I have been doing some homework on the systems a PRETTY MUCH know what I want to do. I have heard that these cars do not need a fuel pump upgrade until a 150 shot. Any thoughts on this? I am going to run the jets close to the throttle body because I want the nitrous to hit hard . I plan on using a bottle warmer. I want to use a button to activate the nitrous, not half throttle initiation. What does a window switch do? How does it operate? Nitrous is one of the few things I don't know much about on these cars. Basically, I need someone to educate me on nitrous setups, not how it works. Any input is appreciated!!! PS- Rstrick was very nice to answer my questions and I appreciate all his help on this matter thus far __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you? Last edited by Mickey@HardcoreMustangs : July 17th, 2008 at 01:34 PM.

July 17th, 2008, 02:16 PM	#3
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	rstrick told me that kit was good as well. I have heard that the Zex kits are more complete with a fuel shutoff, etc...any thought? Ok, I understand what a window switch does now. But, what is the best way to actually spray? Botton? __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you?

July 17th, 2008, 02:35 PM	#5
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	hmm. ok well I want to be able to floor my car without activating the nitrous...possible? __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you?

July 17th, 2008, 02:53 PM	#6
Emay Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Look over your shoulder Posts: 1,799	Mickey of hardcore going to school, isn't hardcore payin the bills so you can just play Barricade all day??? All kidding aside, you didn't really state what window switches you were thinking about. There's a few of them out there now and there's a few variances with each. You no longer need to run a button in these cars, there are window switches that also read WOT voltage now, I run one on my intercooler sprayer now and it does all the work for me. Because it is only an intercooler sprayer I run my RPM from 2500 to 6000 as it can't affect traction not being pushed into the motor. You can also get window switches with both of those features plus gear engagement parameters. Instead of the window switch coming on at 3000rpm in all gears, you lock out first and it only fires for 2,3 and 4. On a 5 speed it just ignores the first cycle of RPM reading from 3000 to 6000 and engages the first time the rpm level your to the redline input and comes below. __________________ View and purchase my pics: http://erinmayphotography.exposuremanager.com/g/

July 17th, 2008, 03:16 PM	#7
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	I actually "retired" from HCM so I could concentrate on my studies more. Thanks for the input. I DO want to bypass first and do not want to spray in that gear if possible. With that, what switch should I get? I am just not understanding what I do to operate the spray __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you?

July 17th, 2008, 03:25 PM	#8
Emay Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Look over your shoulder Posts: 1,799	I'll get you some part number and manufacturer info.. Typically to operate the spray with the above wot window switch, you want a purge of course to get a good solid initial hit and a nitrous armed switch for turn on.. The window switch does everything else for you, you just mash the gas. __________________ View and purchase my pics: http://erinmayphotography.exposuremanager.com/g/

July 17th, 2008, 03:31 PM	#9
tribaltek Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 13.02@107 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,323	This thread should school me a bit in case I take the plunge (still trying to hold off until next year though). Mickey - How old are you anyways? __________________ '05 GT, 5spd, Black, JLT, 93 Race, 4.10's, FRPP Hot Rod Cams, UDP, MGW, OBX LT's & O/R-H, Bassani Race, Prothanes, HIDs, 18" Bullits, SHR Louvers, Black Billet Grille, GT500 Spoiler, Seq. Tails Cammed Crew #1 RADMUSTANGS Store

July 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM	#12
Emay Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Look over your shoulder Posts: 1,799	Cheapest and easiest one to use, simple hook up, WOT detection, RPM activation.. end all answer to you being only a pedal masher: Nitrous Outlet Product Details - Brand X Single Stage Window Switch Dual stage of the above witha multi gear lock out: Nitrous Outlet Product Details - Nitrous Outlet Digital Dual Window Switch __________________ View and purchase my pics: http://erinmayphotography.exposuremanager.com/g/

July 17th, 2008, 03:49 PM	#14
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	Ok, starting to make sense. I really appreciate the help gents. __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you?

July 17th, 2008, 04:09 PM	#17
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	I thought you would be closer. I am 19 __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you?

July 17th, 2008, 04:15 PM	#18
Emay Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Look over your shoulder Posts: 1,799	Youngin __________________ View and purchase my pics: http://erinmayphotography.exposuremanager.com/g/

July 17th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#19
Mickey@HardcoreMustangs Authorized Vendor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,063	Yes I am. I like it better when people don't know my age because they treat you the same. __________________ 13.7@103 300rwhp 316rwtq 3710 lbs full street trim with street tires 92 degrees 90% humidity i had a bag of WIN for lunch. did you?

July 17th, 2008, 04:24 PM	#20
tribaltek Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 13.02@107 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,323	19? Holy crap! Before you told me you were going to school a few days ago I thought you were in your 30's! How in the hell do you afford the barricade at 19? At 19 I had a 1988 Chevy Beretta with a bad trans and blown out interior Anyways... congrats on having a bad ass car so young. And good luck with school! __________________ '05 GT, 5spd, Black, JLT, 93 Race, 4.10's, FRPP Hot Rod Cams, UDP, MGW, OBX LT's & O/R-H, Bassani Race, Prothanes, HIDs, 18" Bullits, SHR Louvers, Black Billet Grille, GT500 Spoiler, Seq. Tails Cammed Crew #1 RADMUSTANGS Store

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