Those who have done cams/timing set

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 12:05 PM

Have a write up? fluffy i know you did it, in a few months or so i plan on doing some 98 cobra intake cams and figured i might as well do the whole timing set up since the car has 69k on her, just looking for a detailed write up and cant find anything.

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 12:56 PM

dont know how the timming goes but i can do one on how to take it apart, i have pics

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 01:11 PM

i just replace a tensioner

Fluffy The Rhino · May 28th, 2009, 01:35 PM

I don't have a write up... my friend has some software that had every step....

What I replaced was the entire timing kit and the damper. You'll need a special tool for pulling the damper. Since you're changing cams, you won't need the cam tool set to hold the stockers in place.

As for what needed to be removed to get the the timing cover and valve covers off, we had to drain the A/C and radiator. We removed the hood scoop, CAI, Hyrdoboost, A/C compressor, Power Steering Pump, radiator fan, spark plugs, throttle body, and then the valve covers. We also had to disconnect the fuel... just so you know, you're probably going to spill a bit of liquid into your engine bay : D Good times!

In order to get the hydroboost out you're going to have to get under your driver's side dash and pull a few bolts for the brakes. It's a pain in the ass.

Once you get all of that shit off, you'll need to pull your serpentine belt and pullies off. Then you will pull your timing cover off. The timing kit itself isn't that difficult to take off and replace. It's fairly straight forward and some of the parts are labeled for you.

As for replacing cams, I have no idea how to do that part, nor do I have any experience degreeing cams. I've read a couple write-ups on how to do it, but that's the extent of my knowledge on it.

Fluffy The Rhino · May 28th, 2009, 01:37 PM

BTW, PM sent : D

Also, here's a thread I posted on it with a couple pictures. Not much though...

Timing.

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 01:42 PM

i didnt touch the a/c, radiator, spark plugs or fuel. didnt even take the oil out and the power steering pump was unbolted and moved to the side

Fluffy The Rhino · May 28th, 2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by 99blkcobra

i didnt touch the a/c, radiator, spark plugs or fuel. didnt even take the oil out and the power steering pump was unbolted and moved to the side

I hate you : )

We tried taking the valve covers off by skipping a couple steps, but it wouldn't happen. : (

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 01:46 PM

wait i did drain out the radiator

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 02:08 PM

when i say timing set, im talking the chain guides (i think thats what their called, the tensionors?), sprockets and timing chain, the only thing im confused about and my friends scared to do (hes a tech, but not a 4v tech lawl) is putting the new intake cams in right, as in timed right

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 02:10 PM

and 99cobra thanks for all the pics!

Mach Boy · May 28th, 2009, 02:19 PM

Good luck with the cams. I just bought some 98 intake cams myself.

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mach Boy

Good luck with the cams. I just bought some 98 intake cams myself.

do you plan on doing the install??

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 02:26 PM

i dont think it should be that hard im getting cams later on and i plan on installing them myself.
If you guys do it ur selfs can u try to get some pics on how to install the cams, thanks. Ill see if i can find something

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by 99blkcobra

i dont think it should be that hard im getting cams later on and i plan on installing them myself.
If you guys do it ur selfs can u try to get some pics on how to install the cams, thanks. Ill see if i can find something

yeah of course, im just confused as how to line them up, not as easy as my fox was

we still gota do my headers/clutch here in a few weeks and i wana have a tune and full boltons before i buy cams

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 02:36 PM

why not do the tune after cams?? im waiting on my tune

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by 99blkcobra

why not do the tune after cams?? im waiting on my tune

retune shouldnt be more than a couple hundred bucks, i dont wana drive around with long tubes, rai, and a spacer too long without a tune

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

retune shouldnt be more than a couple hundred bucks, i dont wana drive around with long tubes, rai, and a spacer too long without a tune

couple hundred.... already seems like alot to me im driving with full bolt ons minus throrrle body and gears, no tune

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 02:55 PM

see that makes me nevous

99blkcobra · May 28th, 2009, 02:59 PM

car drives fine, its bored .20, it has aluminum flywheel driveshaft, 4.30 gears, steward water pump, jlt cai, upds and someone other things cant remember.

oh long tube mac headers, o/r h pipe, stage 2 steeda clutch.....

93hatch · May 28th, 2009, 03:10 PM

have you checked your af ratio?

May 28th, 2009, 12:05 PM	#1
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	Those who have done cams/timing set Have a write up? fluffy i know you did it, in a few months or so i plan on doing some 98 cobra intake cams and figured i might as well do the whole timing set up since the car has 69k on her, just looking for a detailed write up and cant find anything. __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 28th, 2009, 12:56 PM	#2
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	dont know how the timming goes but i can do one on how to take it apart, i have pics __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

May 28th, 2009, 01:11 PM	#3
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	i just replace a tensioner __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

May 28th, 2009, 01:35 PM	#4
Fluffy The Rhino Bearer of Bad News I has mustang and legacy. Slower than my Ruger. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Fuckening Posts: 2,377 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't have a write up... my friend has some software that had every step.... What I replaced was the entire timing kit and the damper. You'll need a special tool for pulling the damper. Since you're changing cams, you won't need the cam tool set to hold the stockers in place. As for what needed to be removed to get the the timing cover and valve covers off, we had to drain the A/C and radiator. We removed the hood scoop, CAI, Hyrdoboost, A/C compressor, Power Steering Pump, radiator fan, spark plugs, throttle body, and then the valve covers. We also had to disconnect the fuel... just so you know, you're probably going to spill a bit of liquid into your engine bay : D Good times! In order to get the hydroboost out you're going to have to get under your driver's side dash and pull a few bolts for the brakes. It's a pain in the ass. Once you get all of that shit off, you'll need to pull your serpentine belt and pullies off. Then you will pull your timing cover off. The timing kit itself isn't that difficult to take off and replace. It's fairly straight forward and some of the parts are labeled for you. As for replacing cams, I have no idea how to do that part, nor do I have any experience degreeing cams. I've read a couple write-ups on how to do it, but that's the extent of my knowledge on it. __________________ ~MOD NUTSWINGER~ My Tongue Soothes Razorburn STOPSAYINGFAIL.COM EVERY FART IS A GAMBLE Just Think Of Me As A White Blood Cell.

May 28th, 2009, 01:37 PM	#5
Fluffy The Rhino Bearer of Bad News I has mustang and legacy. Slower than my Ruger. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Fuckening Posts: 2,377 iTrader: 0 reviews	BTW, PM sent : D Also, here's a thread I posted on it with a couple pictures. Not much though... Timing. __________________ ~MOD NUTSWINGER~ My Tongue Soothes Razorburn STOPSAYINGFAIL.COM EVERY FART IS A GAMBLE Just Think Of Me As A White Blood Cell. Last edited by Fluffy The Rhino; May 28th, 2009 at 01:42 PM.

May 28th, 2009, 01:42 PM	#6
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	i didnt touch the a/c, radiator, spark plugs or fuel. didnt even take the oil out and the power steering pump was unbolted and moved to the side __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

May 28th, 2009, 01:46 PM	#8
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	wait i did drain out the radiator __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3 Last edited by 99blkcobra; May 28th, 2009 at 01:48 PM.

May 28th, 2009, 02:08 PM	#9
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	when i say timing set, im talking the chain guides (i think thats what their called, the tensionors?), sprockets and timing chain, the only thing im confused about and my friends scared to do (hes a tech, but not a 4v tech lawl) is putting the new intake cams in right, as in timed right __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 28th, 2009, 02:10 PM	#10
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	and 99cobra thanks for all the pics! __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 28th, 2009, 02:19 PM	#11
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Good luck with the cams. I just bought some 98 intake cams myself. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

May 28th, 2009, 02:26 PM	#13
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	i dont think it should be that hard im getting cams later on and i plan on installing them myself. If you guys do it ur selfs can u try to get some pics on how to install the cams, thanks. Ill see if i can find something __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

May 28th, 2009, 02:36 PM	#15
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	why not do the tune after cams?? im waiting on my tune __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

May 28th, 2009, 02:55 PM	#18
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	see that makes me nevous __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

May 28th, 2009, 02:59 PM	#19
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	car drives fine, its bored .20, it has aluminum flywheel driveshaft, 4.30 gears, steward water pump, jlt cai, upds and someone other things cant remember. oh long tube mac headers, o/r h pipe, stage 2 steeda clutch..... __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

May 28th, 2009, 03:10 PM	#20
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	have you checked your af ratio? __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

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