Short throw or not?

HorsepoweR · June 11th, 2009, 10:16 PM

Is there a way I can tell if my car has a short throw or stock? This is my first manual car and I have no idea but Im getting ready to order some stuff and if I dont have one I wanna get one. If I just pull off the boot is there a way I can tell? Thanks.

Oh and if I dont have a short throw what would you recommend?

M.P. Cobra Fan · June 11th, 2009, 10:23 PM

You should be able to tell by he height of the shifter. A stock shifter is VERY tall. However, if you pull the boot off, most aftermarket shifters will be marked with their logo.

AzSonicSnake · June 11th, 2009, 10:27 PM

^^^ what he said. or you can post a pic here and i am sure we can help you figure out what you have. but to tell the brand, the boot will need to be off...

HorsepoweR · June 11th, 2009, 11:01 PM

Alright, Ill take some pics tomorrow.. thanx fellas

Lefty · June 11th, 2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by M.P. Cobra Fan

You should be able to tell by he height of the shifter. A stock shifter is VERY tall. However, if you pull the boot off, most aftermarket shifters will be marked with their logo.

+1

ReverendDexter · June 11th, 2009, 11:25 PM

Well, you guys are assuming it that someone didn't put the stock handle on the aftermarket shifter.

I ran mine that way for about a year, and I'd go back if I could get a stock-length arm without the rubber bushing.

Without taking it apart, I'd see how "hard" the shifter centers. If it's got strong centering springs, most likely you already have an aftermarket shifter. Any decent aftermarket shifter will have positive shift stops, as well. You can put the car in first gear (engine not running) then try to push clutch the shifter "past" 1st (further towards the dash). It should feel solid if it's an aftermarket unit, and not let you travel past the point of engagement. If it's mushy and lets you go past the gear, you likely have a stock shifter.

Barring that, you can pull the boot and the underboot (may be easier if you remove the shift knob), and just take a look at it. All the aftermarket shifters I've ever seen are use a pretty thick base, looks like billet. The stocker looks like stamped steel.

Being that you have a T45, you NEED an aftermarket shifter or you run the risk of overpulling a gear and munching the tranny.

The board consensus seems to be for MGW, but I've never shifted one, so I can't say. I have a tri-ax, and knowing what I do know, I wouldn't. It is MUCH better than stock, but it has it's own issues (and I have my own issues with Steeda).

04SVTCobra · June 12th, 2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by HorsepoweR

Oh and if I dont have a short throw what would you recommend?

I personally love my mgw

Fluffy The Rhino · June 12th, 2009, 12:53 AM

I too <3 MGW. My stock shift was pretty solid in the center... but MGW did stiffin it up a bit more.

99blkcobra · June 12th, 2009, 12:58 AM

i like my stock shifter better than my mgw

04SVTCobra · June 12th, 2009, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by 99blkcobra

i like my stock shifter better than my mgw

idk Im so little I like having the gears closer

ReverendDexter · June 12th, 2009, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by FluffyTheRhino

My stock shift was pretty solid in the center...

Yeah, but you have a 3650, the OP has a T45.

Fluffy The Rhino · June 12th, 2009, 01:17 AM

Word

99blkcobra · June 12th, 2009, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Yeah, but you have a 3650, the OP has a T45.

i like the stock feel on the t3650 too

M.P. Cobra Fan · June 12th, 2009, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by 04SVTCobra

idk Im so little I like having the gears closer

I just don't even know how to repsond!

Originally Posted by 99blkcobra

i like the stock feel on the t3650 too

I did as well. Just the shifter was too long. I have a B&M in mine now and while I like it, it is stiff as hell!

AzSonicSnake · June 12th, 2009, 11:43 AM

everyone seems to love the mgw's, but i drove a car with one and hated it. i'll stick with my pro50 any day!

Reloaded · June 12th, 2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by AzSonicSnake

everyone seems to love the mgw's, but i drove a car with one and hated it. i'll stick with my pro50 any day!

Silly you. MGW FTW! But I dunno, might be different on a T-56 :-P

Plus you shift like a madman. Hah

Mustang RacR94 · June 12th, 2009, 04:19 PM

yea I have a steeda tri-ax, and no real complaints about it, Ive heard the MGW is a tad better, but I havent owned both so I cant say which is better, you cant go wrong with a tri-ax thu

1StockGT · June 12th, 2009, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by AzSonicSnake

everyone seems to love the mgw's, but i drove a car with one and hated it. i'll stick with my pro50 any day!

Mine had a pro50 on it and I thought it was junk. I got an MGW because everybody said good stuff about them, so I figured I'd try it. I like the MGW better than the pro50 and Steeda Tri-ax. I will say I never any problems with my Steeda in my old Gt.

HorsepoweR · June 12th, 2009, 07:09 PM

here are 2 pictures hope they help, i put the ruler on the plastic and my shift knob topped off right at 6 inches...

ReverendDexter · June 12th, 2009, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by HorsepoweR

here are 2 pictures hope they help, i put the ruler on the plastic and my shift knob topped off right at 6 inches...

Unfortunately, those don't mean much. You could very easily have a shorter shift lever on a stock shifter, or the stock shift lever on an aftermarket base.

June 11th, 2009, 10:16 PM	#1
HorsepoweR Enthusiast 99 SVT Cobra N/A Yet Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: McHenry, iLLinois Posts: 546 iTrader: 1 reviews	Short throw or not? Is there a way I can tell if my car has a short throw or stock? This is my first manual car and I have no idea but Im getting ready to order some stuff and if I dont have one I wanna get one. If I just pull off the boot is there a way I can tell? Thanks. Oh and if I dont have a short throw what would you recommend? __________________ Mods iN Garage.:.919 of 4040.:.Born on 3/29/99 Found On Road Dominating

June 11th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#2
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June 11th, 2009, 10:27 PM	#3
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,716 iTrader: 1 reviews	^^^ what he said. or you can post a pic here and i am sure we can help you figure out what you have. but to tell the brand, the boot will need to be off... __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

June 11th, 2009, 11:01 PM	#4
HorsepoweR Enthusiast 99 SVT Cobra N/A Yet Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: McHenry, iLLinois Posts: 546 iTrader: 1 reviews	Alright, Ill take some pics tomorrow.. thanx fellas __________________ Mods iN Garage.:.919 of 4040.:.Born on 3/29/99 Found On Road Dominating

June 11th, 2009, 11:25 PM	#6
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,233 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, you guys are assuming it that someone didn't put the stock handle on the aftermarket shifter. I ran mine that way for about a year, and I'd go back if I could get a stock-length arm without the rubber bushing. Without taking it apart, I'd see how "hard" the shifter centers. If it's got strong centering springs, most likely you already have an aftermarket shifter. Any decent aftermarket shifter will have positive shift stops, as well. You can put the car in first gear (engine not running) then try to push clutch the shifter "past" 1st (further towards the dash). It should feel solid if it's an aftermarket unit, and not let you travel past the point of engagement. If it's mushy and lets you go past the gear, you likely have a stock shifter. Barring that, you can pull the boot and the underboot (may be easier if you remove the shift knob), and just take a look at it. All the aftermarket shifters I've ever seen are use a pretty thick base, looks like billet. The stocker looks like stamped steel. Being that you have a T45, you NEED an aftermarket shifter or you run the risk of overpulling a gear and munching the tranny. The board consensus seems to be for MGW, but I've never shifted one, so I can't say. I have a tri-ax, and knowing what I do know, I wouldn't. It is MUCH better than stock, but it has it's own issues (and I have my own issues with Steeda). __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\ Buy my Bronco, special deal for MM folks

June 12th, 2009, 12:53 AM	#8
Fluffy The Rhino Bearer of Bad News I has mustang and legacy. Slower than my Ruger. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Fuckening Posts: 2,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	I too <3 MGW. My stock shift was pretty solid in the center... but MGW did stiffin it up a bit more. __________________ ~MOD NUTSWINGER~ My Tongue Soothes Razorburn STOPSAYINGFAIL.COM EVERY FART IS A GAMBLE Just Think Of Me As A White Blood Cell.

June 12th, 2009, 12:58 AM	#9
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,743 iTrader: 2 reviews	i like my stock shifter better than my mgw __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

June 12th, 2009, 01:17 AM	#12
Fluffy The Rhino Bearer of Bad News I has mustang and legacy. Slower than my Ruger. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Fuckening Posts: 2,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	Word __________________ ~MOD NUTSWINGER~ My Tongue Soothes Razorburn STOPSAYINGFAIL.COM EVERY FART IS A GAMBLE Just Think Of Me As A White Blood Cell.

June 12th, 2009, 11:43 AM	#15
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,716 iTrader: 1 reviews	everyone seems to love the mgw's, but i drove a car with one and hated it. i'll stick with my pro50 any day! __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

June 12th, 2009, 04:19 PM	#17
Mustang RacR94 MM Fanatic 03 mach 1 13.2@109 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mooretownship,PA kinda close to allentown Posts: 3,041 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea I have a steeda tri-ax, and no real complaints about it, Ive heard the MGW is a tad better, but I havent owned both so I cant say which is better, you cant go wrong with a tri-ax thu __________________ 2003 Mach 1, 5 speed U.S. Army - 11B "And on the 8th day god created the infantry and all hell stood at attention"

June 12th, 2009, 07:09 PM	#19
HorsepoweR Enthusiast 99 SVT Cobra N/A Yet Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: McHenry, iLLinois Posts: 546 iTrader: 1 reviews	here are 2 pictures hope they help, i put the ruler on the plastic and my shift knob topped off right at 6 inches... __________________ Mods iN Garage.:.919 of 4040.:.Born on 3/29/99 Found On Road Dominating

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