4 valve swap
Forums at Modded Mustangs
Home Register FAQ Members List Calendar Blogs Garage Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Insurance


Go Back   Forums at Modded Mustangs > Mustang Forums > Modular Mustangs > 4V / SVT

ModdedMustangs.com is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old June 18th, 2009, 06:44 PM   #1
Newbie
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3
1badpurple96 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

4 valve swap


I have a complete 98 Lincoln Mark viii and want to put the engine in my 96 mustang gt. The mustang is a 5 spd. I was wondering how much I need to keep from the Lincoln, and how much will need to purchased.
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old June 22nd, 2009, 11:34 AM   #2
Regular
 
phoenix99's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 179
phoenix99 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

is it a complete engine ?
__________________
Addicted to adrenaline
Forged 5.4 4v with B heads and nitrous. Tuned by me
  Reply With Quote
Old June 23rd, 2009, 07:56 PM   #3
Regular
 
1997 mustang gt
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: phoenix
Posts: 51
busaonboost is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

I have the same issue except mine is a 97 gt auto. I Have access to a full running 97 mark8 for parts. what all it needed?
  Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #4
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 111
thehrtbrkkid is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

I'm curious about the same thing
  Reply With Quote
Old August 19th, 2009, 10:00 PM   #5
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 444
man_of_war2081 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Just drop the engine in, plug up your gt engine harness and have the ECU tuned
__________________
02 Mustang GT Stock
  Reply With Quote
Old August 21st, 2009, 06:47 PM   #6
Regular
 
tbird88tbo's Avatar
 
1998 Mustang Base Model
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 109
tbird88tbo is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

there is way more too it then that. I am close after a year of messing with mine, and still have issues. For one, the mark viii enging is coil on plug. As for the eng, and computer harnesses, they are totally different. Then there is the transmission issues (that is where i am at now). In short, it all depends what dirrection you want to take with this conversion. First you must decide what trans you want to run (auto or manual). Then you pick your computer. After you have the computer picked out then you can map out your wire harness. If you need help ive problay already been there, just email me.
  Reply With Quote
Old August 21st, 2009, 10:38 PM   #7
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 444
man_of_war2081 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

A friend of mine has done a Mark iiiV swap in his 97 NPI Mustang last year, he used his stock wire harness with coil pack and spark plug wires (no COP's) and ECU, he deleted the IMRC's and had the STOCK GT ECU tuned...

Swap cost him $150 for the complete motor at pullapart and $250 for the IMRC delete kit from MMR, a 96 Cobra intake with TB and egr he got for free, not sure what he spent on exhaust components but car runs great considering the motor was out of a 94 with an unkown milage and history.
__________________
02 Mustang GT Stock
  Reply With Quote
Old August 21st, 2009, 11:51 PM   #8
Regular
 
tbird88tbo's Avatar
 
1998 Mustang Base Model
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 109
tbird88tbo is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

ive done way more then that to mine. That is one way to do it tough not the best.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #9
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
LGHTNG02GT's Avatar
 
4V swapped '02 GT
(2v) 13.9@101
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: H~Town, PA
Posts: 1,659
LGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 10 reviews
Default

im working on the same swap right now as well. pretty much from the mark all you want is the block/heads. get rid of the intake for a 96-98 cobra. you would have been better off getting an engine from a pre-96 mark because they would have had the coil packs like your car but all you really have to do to make what you have work is buy a set of non-cop vavle covers and you will be fine. your trans/flywheel/clutch will all swap over to the mark block. all the sensors you have will go to the same places on the mark engine and there are a few you have to lengthen. (IAC and a coolant temp sensor come to mind) swap the mark oil pan for the one on your motor and change the pick-up tube too. other than that jsut get a tune to get the full potential out of the swap and your good to go.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 03:02 AM   #10
Enthusiast
 
99 mustang GT
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: spokane
Posts: 993
ForestGRN_Ghost will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via MSN to ForestGRN_Ghost
Default

there is a full write up on this EXACT subject. in the 96-98 section. check it out
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #11
Regular
 
1992 T-bird SC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 191
JC316 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Step by Step guide to installing a Mark VIII motor in a 96+ GT.

My guide. Read, ask questions if you have em.
__________________
1992 Thunderbird SC 5 speed.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 06:48 PM   #12
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
LGHTNG02GT's Avatar
 
4V swapped '02 GT
(2v) 13.9@101
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: H~Town, PA
Posts: 1,659
LGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 10 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by JC316 View Post
Step by Step guide to installing a Mark VIII motor in a 96+ GT.

My guide. Read, ask questions if you have em.
an awesome write up! i saw this on MF? i think it was

what did you do about hooking up the heater core/hoses? i havent looked at my car yet but i hear on the lincoln motor the connections are kind of right on top of where the gt ones come out of the firewall
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 07:14 PM   #13
Regular
 
1992 T-bird SC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 191
JC316 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by LGHTNG02GT View Post
an awesome write up! i saw this on MF? i think it was

what did you do about hooking up the heater core/hoses? i havent looked at my car yet but i hear on the lincoln motor the connections are kind of right on top of where the gt ones come out of the firewall
Yeah, I have it on MF too. My best advice is to get the cobra lines, I wound up cutting one off in the straight section, then taking a short hose down to it. Then on the other one, I wound up getting two hoses that turned 90 degrees and used a coupling on them to make it a 180 degree turn back to the core line. It works, but took a lot of rigging. The cobra pipes would make it a ton easier. I will snap a few pics of what I did, it's kinda hard to describe.
__________________
1992 Thunderbird SC 5 speed.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 07:47 PM   #14
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
LGHTNG02GT's Avatar
 
4V swapped '02 GT
(2v) 13.9@101
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: H~Town, PA
Posts: 1,659
LGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 10 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by JC316 View Post
Yeah, I have it on MF too. My best advice is to get the cobra lines, I wound up cutting one off in the straight section, then taking a short hose down to it. Then on the other one, I wound up getting two hoses that turned 90 degrees and used a coupling on them to make it a 180 degree turn back to the core line. It works, but took a lot of rigging. The cobra pipes would make it a ton easier. I will snap a few pics of what I did, it's kinda hard to describe.
alright, awesome dude. just as long as it works, thats all that matters
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 08:49 PM   #15
Regular
 
1992 T-bird SC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 191
JC316 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Here is a simple diagram of what I did. I will get actual pics of it tomorrow.

__________________
1992 Thunderbird SC 5 speed.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #16
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
LGHTNG02GT's Avatar
 
4V swapped '02 GT
(2v) 13.9@101
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: H~Town, PA
Posts: 1,659
LGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 10 reviews
Default

that is deff. managable and as long as it works
did you end up keeping the MK VIII intake mani. for long term or ? i swapped it out for a Cobra intake mani. hopefully i can figure out where all the vac. lines go and all. and im hoping i will be able to reuse all my gt sensors on it as well.


Last edited by LGHTNG02GT; November 27th, 2009 at 10:28 PM. Reason: added pic.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 11:20 PM   #17
Regular
 
1992 T-bird SC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 191
JC316 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by LGHTNG02GT View Post
that is deff. managable and as long as it works
did you end up keeping the MK VIII intake mani. for long term or ? i swapped it out for a Cobra intake mani. hopefully i can figure out where all the vac. lines go and all. and im hoping i will be able to reuse all my gt sensors on it as well.

I just kept the Mark VIII stuff as I was budget minded and those cobra intakes are insanely priced. The vacuum lines should be pretty easy with the cobra.
__________________
1992 Thunderbird SC 5 speed.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #18
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
LGHTNG02GT's Avatar
 
4V swapped '02 GT
(2v) 13.9@101
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: H~Town, PA
Posts: 1,659
LGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 10 reviews
Default

i was watching svtperformance for a while and saw this one local for $175 so i was all over that like flies on $h!t. cuz i picked it up i ended up getting it for $150
and i saw your vids on MF and it seems like on the GT tune and the lincoln intake the car had alot more balls than factory (it looks like alot more power than even my car with the bolt-on's)
  Reply With Quote
Old November 28th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #19
Regular
 
1992 T-bird SC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 191
JC316 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by LGHTNG02GT View Post
i was watching svtperformance for a while and saw this one local for $175 so i was all over that like flies on !t. cuz i picked it up i ended up getting it for $150
and i saw your vids on MF and it seems like on the GT tune and the lincoln intake the car had alot more balls than factory (it looks like alot more power than even my car with the bolt-on's)
Oh yeah, it has some serious balls. Since seafoaming it to clean the secondaries and getting the wires separated to prevent spark jump, it has even more power. If I am doing 55MPH and drop it in third to pass someone, by the time I move back over, I am over 100MPH. If I were to slap some 4.10's on it and get a tune, it would be a beast.
__________________
1992 Thunderbird SC 5 speed.
  Reply With Quote
Old November 28th, 2009, 01:55 PM   #20
Hardcore Enthusiast
 
LGHTNG02GT's Avatar
 
4V swapped '02 GT
(2v) 13.9@101
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: H~Town, PA
Posts: 1,659
LGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the roughLGHTNG02GT is a jewel in the rough
iTrader: 10 reviews
Default

Originally Posted by JC316 View Post
Oh yeah, it has some serious balls. Since seafoaming it to clean the secondaries and getting the wires separated to prevent spark jump, it has even more power. If I am doing 55MPH and drop it in third to pass someone, by the time I move back over, I am over 100MPH. If I were to slap some 4.10's on it and get a tune, it would be a beast.
well i guess im going to find out 1st hand because 4.10's and a tune is my exact plan to finish up the rest of the swap. you are still running a stock fuel pump and all?
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools


Threads Similar to: 4 valve swap
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which one is easier??a rear end swap or engine swap? Bies08 V6 Mustangs 42 May 11th, 2010 05:33 PM
four valve swap 1badpurple96 96-98 0 June 17th, 2009 04:31 PM
4 valve swap lineumup88 4V / SVT 16 April 22nd, 2008 12:25 AM
Egr Valve And Pcv Valve Delete? Jeffery9508 V6 Mustangs 16 January 28th, 2008 10:45 PM
4 Valve Swap Danstang 99-04 5 December 19th, 2007 11:04 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:50 PM.
Modded Mustangs is ©2005-2008, All Rights Reserved, And is Not Affiliated with Ford Motor Company.
Forum is powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd. & SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.

powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd.