Header question.

Molitor · August 1st, 2009, 05:09 AM

Americanmuscle.com is where I found mine

SWEET2KSTANG · August 1st, 2009, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by 97mustanggt

would a ported intake for a 96-98 cobra yield good power?

yes. the b-head intake runners can be cleaned up and the runners shortened.

01SVTCobraFreak · August 1st, 2009, 09:38 PM

I've seen some bassani headers around, they seem like a pretty good price. Does anyone know the pro's and con's of the bassani headers?

97mustanggt · August 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

yes. the b-head intake runners can be cleaned up and the runners shortened.

can i buy one already cleaned up and shortened?

SWEET2KSTANG · August 3rd, 2009, 09:57 PM

there are places that do it. be sure you get a reputable place to do it, not just some hack job that is done by someone that thinks they know what they are doing.

Fluffy The Rhino · August 3rd, 2009, 10:12 PM

Bite the bullet, buy some Kooks headers : D

01SVTCobraFreak · August 4th, 2009, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by FluffyTheRhino

Bite the bullet, buy some Kooks headers : D

I've seen them on a lot of mustangs and I love the sound. How much would they run me for?

97mustanggt · August 4th, 2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

there are places that do it. be sure you get a reputable place to do it, not just some hack job that is done by someone that thinks they know what they are doing.

ive seen some on ebay that tha upper intake is port and polish, is it tha same thing?

98Cobra_sleeper · August 4th, 2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by 97mustanggt

ive seen some on ebay that tha upper intake is port and polish, is it tha same thing?

Sean Hyland Motorsports will port your cobra intake and shorten the runners for 700-sumthing. I've heard as much as 50hp gain if you have forced induction. You'll lose alot of torque down low, but the gain up high is sposes to be worth it. also Hamilton Clarke makes a super high flowing intake, but it has the same pros/cons as a SHM intake setup. Modular mustang racing can port your intake for about 500, and i dont think it is as extreme as the others i mentioned.

Fluffy The Rhino · August 4th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by 01SVTCobraFreak

I've seen them on a lot of mustangs and I love the sound. How much would they run me for?

I got mine through dagostinoracing.com As far as your setup in particular, I don't know the cost. Mine with a midpipe ran me somewhere around $1300

They aren't cheap, but they have good customer service and won't dick you around.

01SVTCobraFreak · August 6th, 2009, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by FluffyTheRhino

I got mine through dagostinoracing.com As far as your setup in particular, I don't know the cost. Mine with a midpipe ran me somewhere around $1300

They aren't cheap, but they have good customer service and won't dick you around.

Thanks for the website! I was getting tired of going to americanmuscle all the time.
The BBK, and the Mac headers are about what im looking to spend at the moment. Which would you suggest? I'm not looking for something thats going to make my car obnoctiously loud. I'm just looking for a nice rumble. Also, it mentioned on the site that the BBK's will add 15-20hp, but doesnt say anything about the Mac's hp gain. Will they Mac's add the same hp as the BBK's?

Molitor · August 6th, 2009, 05:38 AM

Im guessing your looking at long tube headers, what coating you looking to go with, everyone told me Ceramic, so thats what I got. It sould be about that same hp, you should get a short X Mid pipe too instead of and H, maybe that was already stated above, idk, im running off 4 hours of sleep and dont feel like reading lol sorry

01SVTCobraFreak · August 6th, 2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Molitor

Im guessing your looking at long tube headers, what coating you looking to go with, everyone told me Ceramic, so thats what I got. It sould be about that same hp, you should get a short X Mid pipe too instead of and H, maybe that was already stated above, idk, im running off 4 hours of sleep and dont feel like reading lol sorry

Yea currently I have Bassani exhuast, with an o/r x-pipe. Would BBK add a good rumble to my car, or make it loud? Those headers are the ones im leaning most towards at the moment.

01SVTCobraFreak · August 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM

Would it be a better idea to buy a new throttle body before the headers? This is probably a stupid question, but I was looking at the throttle bodies online and whats with difference in the 65mm, 70mm, and the 75mm? Yes I know thats the size, but is there a differnce in performance or anything?

Molitor · August 7th, 2009, 02:25 AM

I was told not to waste the money on a TB, but the stock Mach TB are already good so im told, you'll prob notice alittle in difference in throttle reponse and gain a few hp, maybe someone with a Cobra could anwser that one a little better

97mustanggt · August 7th, 2009, 01:12 PM

i hear that u gain a guarenteed bout 50hp on a termi if u upgrade ur throttle, but that is because they are f.i....other than that they say that mach 1 and other cobra throttle bodies do good

98Cobra_sleeper · August 8th, 2009, 12:39 AM

i would do the headers over the throttle body. I bought BBK ceramic longtubes, and it sounded nice. I had an o/r h pipe with the stock manifolds, and it was loud in the car. when i switched to longtubes and an o/r x-pipe, it was quieter in the car. Honestly i was disappointed until i let someone else drive my cobra while i stood in my driveway and heard it drive by. it was way louder and had a sweet rumble. it was just quieter in the cabin. the h-pipes drone more in the cabin and are supposibly made to produce torque down low, and the x-pipe makes a higher pitch sound and designed to make more HP up higher in rpm's.

01SVTCobraFreak · August 8th, 2009, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by 98Cobra_sleeper

i would do the headers over the throttle body. I bought BBK ceramic longtubes, and it sounded nice. I had an o/r h pipe with the stock manifolds, and it was loud in the car. when i switched to longtubes and an o/r x-pipe, it was quieter in the car. Honestly i was disappointed until i let someone else drive my cobra while i stood in my driveway and heard it drive by. it was way louder and had a sweet rumble. it was just quieter in the cabin. the h-pipes drone more in the cabin and are supposibly made to produce torque down low, and the x-pipe makes a higher pitch sound and designed to make more HP up higher in rpm's.

Could you feel a big difference in power when you added the LT's?

tbird88tbo · August 8th, 2009, 12:07 PM

If your x pipe is for a stock set up you will have to replace that too if you get long tube headers.

I have ford racing ceramic coated (by jet hot) short tube headers, bassani catted x pipe, and pypes cat back on my 4v stang. It has a good sound to it, and its not too loud at idle or at cruzing speeds, but sounds awsome when you punch it. If you go to pypes web page you can listen to sound files of there exhaust. Pypes Performance Exhaust - Home Page

On my 88tbird with 5.0 i have mac shorties, bbk hpipe w/o cats, and 2 chamber flows with turndowns (no tail pipes) and it is loud. 55mph for more then like 15 mins, youll feel like your head is going to exsplode.

If you like the way your exhaust sounds now, then changing the headers problay wont make too much of a difference.

I would check Summit Racing – High Performance Car and Truck Parts l 800-230-3030 if you havent already. You can also find some good deals on new headers at ebay if you havent checked there yet. I picked up my mustang 4v headers from a dealer on ebay brand new for about $175 shipped

98Cobra_sleeper · August 8th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by 01SVTCobraFreak

Could you feel a big difference in power when you added the LT's?

yea i had a noticable difference in power at higher rpm's. I lost a little torque down low, but midrange and up high it was great.

August 1st, 2009, 05:09 AM	#21
Molitor Enthusiast 2004 Mustang Mach 1 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L 4WD 1976 Monte Carlo Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winona, Minnesota Posts: 805 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Americanmuscle.com is where I found mine __________________ Military Crew MM Sapper Squad Zombie Killing Club Member #4 Black Stang Crew Member #5

August 3rd, 2009, 09:57 PM	#25
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	there are places that do it. be sure you get a reputable place to do it, not just some hack job that is done by someone that thinks they know what they are doing. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

August 3rd, 2009, 10:12 PM	#26
Fluffy The Rhino Bearer of Bad News I has mustang and legacy. Slower than my Ruger. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Fuckening Posts: 2,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bite the bullet, buy some Kooks headers : D __________________ ~MOD NUTSWINGER~ My Tongue Soothes Razorburn STOPSAYINGFAIL.COM EVERY FART IS A GAMBLE Just Think Of Me As A White Blood Cell.

August 6th, 2009, 05:38 AM	#32
Molitor Enthusiast 2004 Mustang Mach 1 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L 4WD 1976 Monte Carlo Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winona, Minnesota Posts: 805 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im guessing your looking at long tube headers, what coating you looking to go with, everyone told me Ceramic, so thats what I got. It sould be about that same hp, you should get a short X Mid pipe too instead of and H, maybe that was already stated above, idk, im running off 4 hours of sleep and dont feel like reading lol sorry __________________ Military Crew MM Sapper Squad Zombie Killing Club Member #4 Black Stang Crew Member #5

August 7th, 2009, 02:25 AM	#35
Molitor Enthusiast 2004 Mustang Mach 1 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L 4WD 1976 Monte Carlo Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winona, Minnesota Posts: 805 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was told not to waste the money on a TB, but the stock Mach TB are already good so im told, you'll prob notice alittle in difference in throttle reponse and gain a few hp, maybe someone with a Cobra could anwser that one a little better __________________ Military Crew MM Sapper Squad Zombie Killing Club Member #4 Black Stang Crew Member #5

August 1st, 2009, 09:38 PM	#23
01SVTCobraFreak Regular 2001 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've seen some bassani headers around, they seem like a pretty good price. Does anyone know the pro's and con's of the bassani headers?

August 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM	#34
01SVTCobraFreak Regular 2001 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	Would it be a better idea to buy a new throttle body before the headers? This is probably a stupid question, but I was looking at the throttle bodies online and whats with difference in the 65mm, 70mm, and the 75mm? Yes I know thats the size, but is there a differnce in performance or anything?

August 7th, 2009, 01:12 PM	#36
97mustanggt Hardcore Enthusiast 97GT & 97Snake & 00L T.B.A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richgrove, Ca Posts: 2,196 iTrader: 0 reviews	i hear that u gain a guarenteed bout 50hp on a termi if u upgrade ur throttle, but that is because they are f.i....other than that they say that mach 1 and other cobra throttle bodies do good __________________ 97 Cobra & 00 Lightning Beauty & The Beast I rev next to hybrids so they can hear me kill the environment MM Cobra Club Member #77 MM Lightning Club Founder

August 8th, 2009, 12:39 AM	#37
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would do the headers over the throttle body. I bought BBK ceramic longtubes, and it sounded nice. I had an o/r h pipe with the stock manifolds, and it was loud in the car. when i switched to longtubes and an o/r x-pipe, it was quieter in the car. Honestly i was disappointed until i let someone else drive my cobra while i stood in my driveway and heard it drive by. it was way louder and had a sweet rumble. it was just quieter in the cabin. the h-pipes drone more in the cabin and are supposibly made to produce torque down low, and the x-pipe makes a higher pitch sound and designed to make more HP up higher in rpm's.

August 8th, 2009, 12:07 PM	#39
tbird88tbo Regular 1998 Mustang Base Model Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 109 iTrader: 0 reviews	If your x pipe is for a stock set up you will have to replace that too if you get long tube headers. I have ford racing ceramic coated (by jet hot) short tube headers, bassani catted x pipe, and pypes cat back on my 4v stang. It has a good sound to it, and its not too loud at idle or at cruzing speeds, but sounds awsome when you punch it. If you go to pypes web page you can listen to sound files of there exhaust. Pypes Performance Exhaust - Home Page On my 88tbird with 5.0 i have mac shorties, bbk hpipe w/o cats, and 2 chamber flows with turndowns (no tail pipes) and it is loud. 55mph for more then like 15 mins, youll feel like your head is going to exsplode. If you like the way your exhaust sounds now, then changing the headers problay wont make too much of a difference. I would check Summit Racing – High Performance Car and Truck Parts l 800-230-3030 if you havent already. You can also find some good deals on new headers at ebay if you havent checked there yet. I picked up my mustang 4v headers from a dealer on ebay brand new for about $175 shipped

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