Head question: 98 4V -vs- 03 4V

Kuro · August 24th, 2009, 03:50 PM

Whats the difference in heads between the 98 cobras and termis?

Im looking at buying a 98 cobra, and I have a chance to buy a complete, unmolested termi shortblock off a good friend for $600. I'm wondering what the difference is in the heads though.

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 04:02 PM

both are good heads but alot of 4vr's like the 98 heads ported as they are better for boosted applications. Also, I would stay with the 98 motor since the block is a aluminum Teksid as opposed to cast iron 03. so it all just boils down to what your intent is for this car. as i said though, both are great heads that flow rather well.

Kuro · August 24th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Well, if I took the heads from a 98, and put them on an 03 block, could I bolt on a stock termi blower?

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM

i think they will only work with the 03 heads

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:10 PM

How the hell are you getting a Termi shortblock for $600?

Kuro · August 24th, 2009, 04:12 PM

Good friend bought it, but went with an MMR shortblock. Plus he owes me a few favors. What i didnt know though, was that stock termi rods are manleys. Impressive

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM

I fucking want it

I've been trying to find some rods and pistons from an 03/04 for a decent deal, but if I can find a whole short block then that'd be even better.

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM

yup termi = all forged

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM

Btw...the 03/04 heads are better flowing than any other 4V head stock vs. stock.

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lefty

I fucking want it

I've been trying to find some rods and pistons from an 03/04 for a decent deal, but if I can find a whole short block then that'd be even better.

damn ive seen a couple in my area that go for around that a few times a month

Kuro · August 24th, 2009, 04:18 PM

Well, from what i can tell, the pistons arent forged. Im planning on replacing them anyway.

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM

all termi's have all forged parts: crank, rods, pistons

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by wraitherlx

all termi's have all forged parts: crank, rods, pistons

+1, if not, then it's not a Termi shortblock.

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by wraitherlx

damn ive seen a couple in my area that go for around that a few times a month

Well

?

Pick me up one next time and I'll send you cash.

Kuro · August 24th, 2009, 04:31 PM

Well im planning on replacing the pistons anyway. I want to push 650 to the wheels, and considering a single turbo set up.

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:32 PM

There's guys running upwards of 650-700rwhp on the stock Terminator engine.

97mustanggt · August 24th, 2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by wraitherlx

yup termi = all forged

arnt tha 96-98 cobras all forged as well

Lefty · August 24th, 2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by 97mustanggt

arnt tha 96-98 cobras all forged as well

No, just the crank. And you also have the Tedskid block.

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Lefty

Well ?

Pick me up one next time and I'll send you cash.

Sure thing. Ill let you know if i see anything and then we will work it out. How about that?

wraitherx · August 24th, 2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Lefty

No, just the crank. And you also have the Tedskid block.

^ what homo said

the teksid block is the block that i would want. and like Lefty said those termi components can handle some good power

August 24th, 2009, 03:50 PM	#1
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 898 iTrader: 0 reviews	Head question: 98 4V -vs- 03 4V Whats the difference in heads between the 98 cobras and termis? Im looking at buying a 98 cobra, and I have a chance to buy a complete, unmolested termi shortblock off a good friend for $600. I'm wondering what the difference is in the heads though. __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

August 24th, 2009, 04:02 PM	#2
wraitherx Moderator '99 SVT Cobra Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 9,567 iTrader: 11 reviews	both are good heads but alot of 4vr's like the 98 heads ported as they are better for boosted applications. Also, I would stay with the 98 motor since the block is a aluminum Teksid as opposed to cast iron 03. so it all just boils down to what your intent is for this car. as i said though, both are great heads that flow rather well. __________________ BUILD 2 IN PROGRESS Last edited by wraitherx; August 24th, 2009 at 04:05 PM.

August 24th, 2009, 04:07 PM	#3
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 898 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, if I took the heads from a 98, and put them on an 03 block, could I bolt on a stock termi blower? __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

August 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM	#4
wraitherx Moderator '99 SVT Cobra Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 9,567 iTrader: 11 reviews	i think they will only work with the 03 heads __________________ BUILD 2 IN PROGRESS

August 24th, 2009, 04:10 PM	#5
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,391 iTrader: 11 reviews	How the hell are you getting a Termi shortblock for $600? __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

August 24th, 2009, 04:12 PM	#6
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 898 iTrader: 0 reviews	Good friend bought it, but went with an MMR shortblock. Plus he owes me a few favors. What i didnt know though, was that stock termi rods are manleys. Impressive __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

August 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM	#7
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,391 iTrader: 11 reviews	I fucking want it I've been trying to find some rods and pistons from an 03/04 for a decent deal, but if I can find a whole short block then that'd be even better. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

August 24th, 2009, 04:14 PM	#8
wraitherx Moderator '99 SVT Cobra Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 9,567 iTrader: 11 reviews	yup termi = all forged __________________ BUILD 2 IN PROGRESS

August 24th, 2009, 04:18 PM	#11
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 898 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, from what i can tell, the pistons arent forged. Im planning on replacing them anyway. __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

August 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM	#12
wraitherx Moderator '99 SVT Cobra Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 9,567 iTrader: 11 reviews	all termi's have all forged parts: crank, rods, pistons __________________ BUILD 2 IN PROGRESS

August 24th, 2009, 04:31 PM	#15
Kuro Banned 2007 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 898 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well im planning on replacing the pistons anyway. I want to push 650 to the wheels, and considering a single turbo set up. __________________ [url]www.ctxracing.com[/url] [url]www.tandlmedia.com[/url] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

August 24th, 2009, 04:32 PM	#16
Lefty The Doctor '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 27,391 iTrader: 11 reviews	There's guys running upwards of 650-700rwhp on the stock Terminator engine. __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

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