Headers?

MiKeYbAnKs3435 · September 30th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Just got a good deal on a 01 svt cobra, the first thing i want to do is put some headers on. Was the installation a pain or was it a simple process? My car right now is mainly stock and just has a borla catback. I'm not gonna go to crazy with mods I just want a meaner, louder sound. Does anything have to be modded on the car to make headers fit? or is it an easy install?

99blkcobra · September 30th, 2009, 03:00 PM

so far every time ive done the tranny the left one is easy the right one, i cant get to the top bolt on the pass. of the firewall

Doc8224 · September 30th, 2009, 05:30 PM

My headers where a PITA. had to unbolt the motor and raise it up to get em in. Just an FYI before you do the headers, on a stock 4v the headers should be one of the last things you do. You can get a meaner sound with a better mid pipe (MAC prochamber IMO) and if you do headers you have to get a different mid pipe anyway. Thats quite a bit of money for not alot of power and not much difference in sound from just a good mid pipe swap. Dollar for dollar you will get more power out of other bolt ons on a stock motor than you will headers. But if your dead set on them then get a good extra pair of hands to help cuz it's pretty tough to get the passenger side one on.

MiKeYbAnKs3435 · September 30th, 2009, 09:12 PM

What should be first?

Doc8224 · October 1st, 2009, 08:14 AM

Cold air,mass air, mid pipe,tuner,UDP's, are the good one's to start with and are good power adders.

MiKeYbAnKs3435 · October 1st, 2009, 12:17 PM

Would a BBK midpipe hook right up to the stock headers?

Mach Boy · October 1st, 2009, 06:13 PM

As long as it is not the shorty midpipe it will hook up to the stock headers. If you do plan on getting long tube headers in the future though it won't fit on those.

MiKeYbAnKs3435 · October 4th, 2009, 12:38 AM

Yeah, i still want to swap the whole exhaust for my first mod. Does the check engine light come on when you change the exhaust on these cars?

SWEET2KSTANG · October 4th, 2009, 01:06 AM

headers give a decent gain, but it can be expensive. its not that bad to do if you have done modular headers before, but can be very time consuming if you havent.

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by MiKeYbAnKs3435

Yeah, i still want to swap the whole exhaust for my first mod. Does the check engine light come on when you change the exhaust on these cars?

Depends on your mid pipe. If you get an O/R mid pipe with no cats then yes it will come on unless you turn them off with a tuner (another reason a tuner is nice to have) but if you get a mid pipe with cats then it won't. you will also need 02 sensor extensions for the front 02 sensors when you put long tube headers on.

MiKeYbAnKs3435 · October 4th, 2009, 08:56 PM

Wow I can just use a tuner to get rid of the check engine light? Thats pretty cool. If I get a tuner I can probably just get the O/R mid pipe and save a good $250 and still pass an inspection. I was going to purchase a tuner in the future but now I might get one sooner. I think I'll get the diablo tuner off American muscle. Thanks a lot for the help

93hatch · October 4th, 2009, 09:13 PM

youll fail inspection if you just turn of the cel with a tuner

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2009, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

youll fail inspection if you just turn of the cel with a tuner

Yep if they use the sniffer or visual then you will still fail. I would go with a high flow cat setup if you need to pass inspection

MiKeYbAnKs3435 · October 5th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Alright I'll see. Would a magnapack catback hook right up to a bbk midpipe?

SWEET2KSTANG · October 5th, 2009, 01:14 AM

exhaust parts for these cars are made to fit in stock locations at stock flange locations as well.

Trick Tuners · October 5th, 2009, 10:03 AM

headers have to be the biggest PITA mod ever. If you have smog to deal with, keep the stock ones. If not, go LTs. Having REALLY small hands will help, but it still sucks really bad to swap them.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 5th, 2009, 10:25 AM

not if you have done it before..........or a few times............or too many times

Trick Tuners · October 5th, 2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

not if you have done it before..........or a few times............or too many times

your a sick man if you like header installs!

SWEET2KSTANG · October 5th, 2009, 10:40 AM

i have had my car apart so many times that i am quiet quick at it

futureMACH1racer · October 5th, 2009, 10:56 AM

I have done the instal several times myself, having a hoist, and makes it easy for me. I don't much mind them. The first time I did it I had the car on blocks, and I pulled the engine off the mounts to finagle them in. The second time I just installed thme on my engine when I was putting it back in. The only problem I had was that I have big hands and arms sO I had to have my buddy tighten everything down.

Also, I reccomend a Mac Pro Chamber with Mac Cat back, or SLP Loudmouth 2. Both wil get an aggressive sound.

September 30th, 2009, 02:54 PM	#1
MiKeYbAnKs3435 Regular 2001 SVT cobra N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	Headers? Just got a good deal on a 01 svt cobra, the first thing i want to do is put some headers on. Was the installation a pain or was it a simple process? My car right now is mainly stock and just has a borla catback. I'm not gonna go to crazy with mods I just want a meaner, louder sound. Does anything have to be modded on the car to make headers fit? or is it an easy install? __________________ Imports are like tampons. Every pussy's got one.

September 30th, 2009, 03:00 PM	#2
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,741 iTrader: 2 reviews	so far every time ive done the tranny the left one is easy the right one, i cant get to the top bolt on the pass. of the firewall __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

September 30th, 2009, 05:30 PM	#3
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	My headers where a PITA. had to unbolt the motor and raise it up to get em in. Just an FYI before you do the headers, on a stock 4v the headers should be one of the last things you do. You can get a meaner sound with a better mid pipe (MAC prochamber IMO) and if you do headers you have to get a different mid pipe anyway. Thats quite a bit of money for not alot of power and not much difference in sound from just a good mid pipe swap. Dollar for dollar you will get more power out of other bolt ons on a stock motor than you will headers. But if your dead set on them then get a good extra pair of hands to help cuz it's pretty tough to get the passenger side one on. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way Last edited by Doc8224; September 30th, 2009 at 05:32 PM.

September 30th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#4
MiKeYbAnKs3435 Regular 2001 SVT cobra N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	What should be first? __________________ Imports are like tampons. Every pussy's got one.

October 1st, 2009, 08:14 AM	#5
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	Cold air,mass air, mid pipe,tuner,UDP's, are the good one's to start with and are good power adders. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

October 1st, 2009, 12:17 PM	#6
MiKeYbAnKs3435 Regular 2001 SVT cobra N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	Would a BBK midpipe hook right up to the stock headers? __________________ Imports are like tampons. Every pussy's got one.

October 1st, 2009, 06:13 PM	#7
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	As long as it is not the shorty midpipe it will hook up to the stock headers. If you do plan on getting long tube headers in the future though it won't fit on those. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

October 4th, 2009, 12:38 AM	#8
MiKeYbAnKs3435 Regular 2001 SVT cobra N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, i still want to swap the whole exhaust for my first mod. Does the check engine light come on when you change the exhaust on these cars? __________________ Imports are like tampons. Every pussy's got one.

October 4th, 2009, 01:06 AM	#9
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	headers give a decent gain, but it can be expensive. its not that bad to do if you have done modular headers before, but can be very time consuming if you havent. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 4th, 2009, 08:56 PM	#11
MiKeYbAnKs3435 Regular 2001 SVT cobra N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	Wow I can just use a tuner to get rid of the check engine light? Thats pretty cool. If I get a tuner I can probably just get the O/R mid pipe and save a good $250 and still pass an inspection. I was going to purchase a tuner in the future but now I might get one sooner. I think I'll get the diablo tuner off American muscle. Thanks a lot for the help __________________ Imports are like tampons. Every pussy's got one.

October 4th, 2009, 09:13 PM	#12
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	youll fail inspection if you just turn of the cel with a tuner __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

October 5th, 2009, 12:05 AM	#14
MiKeYbAnKs3435 Regular 2001 SVT cobra N/A Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirkwood Posts: 124 iTrader: 0 reviews	Alright I'll see. Would a magnapack catback hook right up to a bbk midpipe? __________________ Imports are like tampons. Every pussy's got one.

October 5th, 2009, 01:14 AM	#15
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	exhaust parts for these cars are made to fit in stock locations at stock flange locations as well. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 5th, 2009, 10:03 AM	#16
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	headers have to be the biggest PITA mod ever. If you have smog to deal with, keep the stock ones. If not, go LTs. Having REALLY small hands will help, but it still sucks really bad to swap them. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

October 5th, 2009, 10:25 AM	#17
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	not if you have done it before..........or a few times............or too many times __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

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October 5th, 2009, 10:40 AM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	i have had my car apart so many times that i am quiet quick at it __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 5th, 2009, 10:56 AM	#20
futureMACH1racer I.D.G.A.F. 2009 John Deere 9670 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 11,346 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have done the instal several times myself, having a hoist, and makes it easy for me. I don't much mind them. The first time I did it I had the car on blocks, and I pulled the engine off the mounts to finagle them in. The second time I just installed thme on my engine when I was putting it back in. The only problem I had was that I have big hands and arms sO I had to have my buddy tighten everything down. Also, I reccomend a Mac Pro Chamber with Mac Cat back, or SLP Loudmouth 2. Both wil get an aggressive sound. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

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