since everyone seems to be gettin cams....

98Cobra_sleeper · October 1st, 2009, 06:25 PM

what factory ford cams can i buy that would get me the greatest gains with my 98 cobra and would work well with a turbo? Ford GT cams, gt500? i dunno if i want to pay 1600 for custom grinds...although i do love the "cammed out" mustang sound, but i heard you cant do that with a turbo car.

Mach Boy · October 1st, 2009, 06:32 PM

GT cams would be your best bet as far as a factory stock head is concerned. You already have the most aggressive cams the 4Vs offer in the 96-98 intake cams. You won't get but maybe 10-15 though. I'd save up get some custom grinds if I were you.

acidtonic · October 1st, 2009, 08:25 PM

The real "lopey" cams are for non forced induction power. They have a completely different design to get power from FI cars and the cam sounds much more tame compared to NA cams.

for the price compared to power I'd avoid cams until you need them. Besides the cam pretty much dictates exactly what setup you will need to make power. Better to do them close to last if not last. Cams are usually the final piece of the puzzle that makes the whole combo "click" and make much more power. By themselves though they do very little but on a full bolt on car they do quite a bit more.

Also if you're stock and not getting much power from them, dont forget cams also really hurt fuel economy. Usually the mpg hit is felt less when putting in the cam will net you 50hp or more if matched properly. I wouldnt accept the lower mpg unless it bought me more power than 10-20hp

98Cobra_sleeper · October 2nd, 2009, 12:43 AM

yeah i do have the stock B heads, but mine are raceported. i dont think they even make an aftermarket head setup for my car.

Mach Boy · October 2nd, 2009, 12:18 PM

FR500 heads are the only aftermarket 4V heads that I'm aware of. And those are NOT cheap.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 2nd, 2009, 12:20 PM

if you have or are intalling a set of hair dryers and on a budget for cams, i would look into the GT cams. they will do very well with the boost, and cost is generous as well.

98Cobra_sleeper · October 2nd, 2009, 10:28 PM

yeah i have the twin setup. i dunno if i really even need cams. im not gona have a lack for horsepower, as im sure i can make the 550-600hp range easily. i just LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the sound of a cammed car.

Mach Boy · October 2nd, 2009, 10:49 PM

The lopey sound of a cammed car is usually only heard on NA applications not FI.

Mustang RacR94 · October 2nd, 2009, 11:37 PM

yea that famous cam sound is mainly do to the overlap, which on a FI car you really dont need as the air is being shoved in anyway. in very general terms anyway

Ford GT cams seem to work out to be a deal. decent amount of lift on them.

Doc8224 · October 2nd, 2009, 11:52 PM

I love mine. It does have a little rougher idle to it from the cams but not a whole lot and they realy make a difference on the top end. With your setup you will benefit from a set of them in your car. They are worth it for the money if you ask me.

98Cobra_sleeper · October 3rd, 2009, 12:14 AM

what would be a reasonable cost for them? i thought that my intake cams were the most aggresive stock cam available?

SWEET2KSTANG · October 3rd, 2009, 03:25 AM

duration wise, yes. the gt supercar cams have more lift, and are favorable for boost.

98Cobra_sleeper · October 3rd, 2009, 05:05 PM

oh ok. i dont really know much abotu cams at all. i will definitely keep my eye open for some GT cams. thanks all for all ur 2cents.

Doc8224 · October 3rd, 2009, 09:11 PM

You can call steve at Tousley Ford and he can hook you up with a set pretty cheap. He is who I call when I want Ford or FRPP parts.

98Cobra_sleeper · October 3rd, 2009, 11:30 PM

sweet. what can i expect to pay for them? rough idea?

SWEET2KSTANG · October 4th, 2009, 01:03 AM

pricing has gone up on a lot of stuff. if i were to guess, probably around $600 or so.

98Cobra_sleeper · October 4th, 2009, 09:52 AM

not bad. i actually saw a set of GTcams on ebay from AMPerformance for like 580. it says they are for 07/08 gt500's tho. would they fit my car anyway?

SWEET2KSTANG · October 4th, 2009, 10:24 AM

all the 4.6/5.4 4v cams will interchange.

98Cobra_sleeper · October 4th, 2009, 08:46 PM

has anyone seen this youtube video?

YouTube - Mustang Turbo

its a mustang with twin turbo that is cammed out like crazy. how can this car sound like that with turbos?

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2009, 09:16 PM

Because he made a bad choice in cams. IMO

October 1st, 2009, 06:25 PM	#1
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	since everyone seems to be gettin cams.... what factory ford cams can i buy that would get me the greatest gains with my 98 cobra and would work well with a turbo? Ford GT cams, gt500? i dunno if i want to pay 1600 for custom grinds...although i do love the "cammed out" mustang sound, but i heard you cant do that with a turbo car. __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

October 1st, 2009, 06:32 PM	#2
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	GT cams would be your best bet as far as a factory stock head is concerned. You already have the most aggressive cams the 4Vs offer in the 96-98 intake cams. You won't get but maybe 10-15 though. I'd save up get some custom grinds if I were you. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

October 1st, 2009, 08:25 PM	#3
acidtonic Hardcore Enthusiast 97 Cobra Join Date: May 2008 Location: Royal Oak Michigan Posts: 1,056 iTrader: 0 reviews	The real "lopey" cams are for non forced induction power. They have a completely different design to get power from FI cars and the cam sounds much more tame compared to NA cams. for the price compared to power I'd avoid cams until you need them. Besides the cam pretty much dictates exactly what setup you will need to make power. Better to do them close to last if not last. Cams are usually the final piece of the puzzle that makes the whole combo "click" and make much more power. By themselves though they do very little but on a full bolt on car they do quite a bit more. Also if you're stock and not getting much power from them, dont forget cams also really hurt fuel economy. Usually the mpg hit is felt less when putting in the cam will net you 50hp or more if matched properly. I wouldnt accept the lower mpg unless it bought me more power than 10-20hp __________________ Converted to the Dark Side. 06 Apex Silver Evolution IX GSR - Turboback Exhaust, Tune - Wideband O2, Trustz backlight gauges, Apexi turbo timer - Stock wing, but soon to be wingless. - Guessing 280-310 at the wheels. 02 Red Escape V6 4x4

October 2nd, 2009, 12:43 AM	#4
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i do have the stock B heads, but mine are raceported. i dont think they even make an aftermarket head setup for my car. __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

October 2nd, 2009, 12:18 PM	#5
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	FR500 heads are the only aftermarket 4V heads that I'm aware of. And those are NOT cheap. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

October 2nd, 2009, 12:20 PM	#6
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	if you have or are intalling a set of hair dryers and on a budget for cams, i would look into the GT cams. they will do very well with the boost, and cost is generous as well. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 2nd, 2009, 10:28 PM	#7
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i have the twin setup. i dunno if i really even need cams. im not gona have a lack for horsepower, as im sure i can make the 550-600hp range easily. i just LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the sound of a cammed car. __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

October 2nd, 2009, 10:49 PM	#8
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	The lopey sound of a cammed car is usually only heard on NA applications not FI. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

October 2nd, 2009, 11:37 PM	#9
Mustang RacR94 MM Fanatic 99 cobra N/A Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 3,169 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea that famous cam sound is mainly do to the overlap, which on a FI car you really dont need as the air is being shoved in anyway. in very general terms anyway Ford GT cams seem to work out to be a deal. decent amount of lift on them. __________________ 99 Cobra 03 Cobra motor AFCO H/E Pulley JLT CAI BBK L/T off road H/steeda catback SCT MAF Tune 03 cobra pumps HVGC

October 2nd, 2009, 11:52 PM	#10
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	I love mine. It does have a little rougher idle to it from the cams but not a whole lot and they realy make a difference on the top end. With your setup you will benefit from a set of them in your car. They are worth it for the money if you ask me. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

October 3rd, 2009, 12:14 AM	#11
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	what would be a reasonable cost for them? i thought that my intake cams were the most aggresive stock cam available? __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

October 3rd, 2009, 03:25 AM	#12
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	duration wise, yes. the gt supercar cams have more lift, and are favorable for boost. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 3rd, 2009, 05:05 PM	#13
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh ok. i dont really know much abotu cams at all. i will definitely keep my eye open for some GT cams. thanks all for all ur 2cents. __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

October 3rd, 2009, 09:11 PM	#14
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	You can call steve at Tousley Ford and he can hook you up with a set pretty cheap. He is who I call when I want Ford or FRPP parts. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

October 3rd, 2009, 11:30 PM	#15
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	sweet. what can i expect to pay for them? rough idea? __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

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October 4th, 2009, 01:03 AM	#16
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	pricing has gone up on a lot of stuff. if i were to guess, probably around $600 or so. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 4th, 2009, 09:52 AM	#17
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	not bad. i actually saw a set of GTcams on ebay from AMPerformance for like 580. it says they are for 07/08 gt500's tho. would they fit my car anyway? __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

October 4th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#18
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	all the 4.6/5.4 4v cams will interchange. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

October 4th, 2009, 09:16 PM	#20
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	Because he made a bad choice in cams. IMO __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

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