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Old December 1st, 2009, 03:31 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by 00vert View Post
he has a coupe cobra = 3600 stock

you have a vert = 3800 stock

by what you wrote there isnt 300+ pounds of difference in your guys cars

that right there makes the diff in your guys race.... plus with racing there are way to many variables so its not a good analysis.

from what ive heard and what people are sayin in this thread there is more to it then just weight. sra puts power to the ground better.
Yes but what about when you sitting in the car a driving Iam sure you weight at least 190 so theres extra almost 200lbs which equalls to 4000 and if you subs in the rear add another 40 or 60 depending on speaker size.
And 4000 to 3600-148lbs from SRA well you do the math. But yes if you have some Mickeys or some good DRs fact is you can launch the shit of the car with SRA.
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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
There's a few things going on here.

The first is that drag racers have been working with the 4-link SRA since 1979. That's a LOT of experience.

The second is that the Cobra IRS was designed first and foremost to bolt-in in place of the SRA, handling, and launching were secondary concerns.

I say unless you're REALLY serious in whatever form of racing you're doing, build what you have, whether that be the SRA or the IRS. If you're really serious about 1/4 mile, eventually you'll want the SRA for the added strength. If you're really serious about handling, eventually you'll go to the SRA for the better geometry (unless you're on really bad surfaces, then you may want the IRS for it's better roadholding ability on the rough).

Pardon my ignorance, but are you saying that the SRA is better than the IRS for handling on smooth surfaces? Sorry but I've spent the past 5 years driving mountain roads in Southern Cali & it seems to me that if 2 cars were set up the exact same way an IRS would kill an SRA because it could put a lot more grip down when cornering; hence making it able to corner at higher speeds without sliding out
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Old December 1st, 2009, 03:20 PM   #23
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Pardon my ignorance, but are you saying that the SRA is better than the IRS for handling on smooth surfaces? Sorry but I've spent the past 5 years driving mountain roads in Southern Cali & it seems to me that if 2 cars were set up the exact same way an IRS would kill an SRA because it could put a lot more grip down when cornering; hence making it able to corner at higher speeds without sliding out
Yes I am. And were we talking about any car besides a Mustang, you'd be right. But a torque arm Mustang will outcorner a Cobra IRS car, all else being equal.
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Anyone running a TA on an SN95 is a complete lose.... (nevermind)
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Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat View Post
Anyone running a TA on an SN95 is a complete lose.... (nevermind)
What about on a foxbody?

Oh, and let me threadjack and say what a GIGANTIC FKING RATTLETRAP my foxbody is. Seriously. I'm hoping the SFCs tone SOME of it down. (yeah, yeah, I haven't got my SFCs installed yet... they're just sitting in my garage collecting dust I'm working on it!)













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Originally Posted by ReverendDexter View Post
This just isn't true. NONE of the winning road-race Mustangs use the IRS. Most pre-S197s use a torque arm setup, and the S197s use the factory 3-link.
with the exception of a few cars (mustang being one) EVERY road race car has IRS, for good reason too. if you want good info on the IRS go to Full Tilt Boogie Racing Homepage that'll answer any of your questions you can possibly come up with in reguards to the IRS/solid debate
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Originally Posted by Mr.Soup View Post
with the exception of a few cars (mustang being one) EVERY road race car has IRS, for good reason too. if you want good info on the IRS go to Full Tilt Boogie Racing Homepage that'll answer any of your questions you can possibly come up with in reguards to the IRS/solid debate
Yeah, a well-designed IRS will outhandle even the best designed SRA every time. The issue with Mustangs (and I do believe that is the point here) is that the Cobra IRS is *not* a well-designed IRS.

For the '79-'04 Mustang and only for the '79-04 Mustang a properly prepped SRA car will outhandle an otherwise similar IRS-equipped car.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Soup View Post
with the exception of a few cars (mustang being one) EVERY road race car has IRS, for good reason too. if you want good info on the IRS go to Full Tilt Boogie Racing Homepage that'll answer any of your questions you can possibly come up with in reguards to the IRS/solid debate
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