rwhp mach 1

04gtblkvert · October 21st, 2009, 06:18 PM

How much rwhp can a stock mach 1 hold?

standin'milemonster · October 21st, 2009, 07:08 PM

as much as you build it to

Mach Boy · October 21st, 2009, 07:32 PM

~450 on stock internals.

mustanginky · October 21st, 2009, 08:23 PM

around 450 or so is about the limit for a 4v it seems.

04gtblkvert · October 21st, 2009, 08:33 PM

Is the block weak and could you just put cobra rods, and pistons in?

Scott2001GT · October 21st, 2009, 09:18 PM

so pretty much the same a 2v's

mpe331lx · October 21st, 2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by 04gtblkvert

Is the block weak and could you just put cobra rods, and pistons in?

The stock pistons and rods are the weak point. You can put a set of 03 manley rods in it along with a quality aftermarket piston. The 03 pistons are sized by each bore in the 03 block and are not worth putting in another engine.

The mach aluminum block is not quite as strong as the 93-01 Teksid blocks, but will not be the weak point in most builds. Many have made ove 800rwhp without a failure with a WAP block.

futureMACH1racer · October 22nd, 2009, 01:54 PM

Mine let go at around 4xxish I think. I had a p&p'd intake, full boltons, suspension, and a tuned 150 shot. I didn't much care about hp numbers back then.

Mach Boy · October 22nd, 2009, 03:58 PM

^Based on what your mods are (if LTs are included in "full bolt-ons" you were probably putting down anywhere from 320 to 340 before the 150 shot. Throw that on top and you are at a minimum of 470 lol.

ReverendDexter · October 22nd, 2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by 04gtblkvert

Is the block weak and could you just put cobra rods, and pistons in?

Shortblock has cast internals unless it's from a manual car, in which case the crank is forged.

Near as I know, all new edge Mach 1s used the WAP aluminum block, which is considerably weaker than both the older Teskid aluminum block and newer Aluminator aluminum block.

If you're going through the effort, I'd replace the shortblock entirely with one of the above aluminum blocks as a base. If you're cool with an additional 80+ lbs on the nose of your car, you could also go with the iron block found in the 2v motors or the Termie shortblock (advantage to the termie being fully forged internals from the factory). If you go with a 2v block, I'd keep your Mach crank, assuming it's a 5-speed car.

Black02GT · October 25th, 2009, 04:13 PM

450

Cricket · October 25th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

around 450 or so is about the limit for a 4v it seems.

thats not all 4v's so dont say that.

99blkcobra · October 26th, 2009, 03:19 AM

question, so after u build the short block do you have to worry about the valves, spring, ect.....?

Scott2001GT · October 26th, 2009, 11:59 AM

thats 450rwhp though right?

Mach Boy · October 26th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by 99blkcobra

question, so after u build the short block do you have to worry about the valves, spring, ect.....?

Short block is the crank, rods, and pistons. When people say long block it includes the short block and everything in the heads (springs, valves, rocker arms, cams, ect.)

October 21st, 2009, 06:18 PM	#1
04gtblkvert Newbie 2004 Mustang gt 14.21@97.05 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 42	rwhp mach 1 How much rwhp can a stock mach 1 hold?

October 21st, 2009, 07:08 PM	#2
standin'milemonster Newbie 2003 cobra 28.3@187.39 standing mile Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: collinsville, IL Posts: 37	as much as you build it to __________________ Who Doesnt Like A Topless Beauty TOPLESS CLUB MEMBER 120,150,160,180MPH CLUB Member

October 21st, 2009, 07:32 PM	#3
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang 13.62@104 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Terre Haute, IN / St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,869	~450 on stock internals. __________________ Project: Fach You, In Progress

October 21st, 2009, 08:23 PM	#4
mustanginky Enthusiast 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 963	around 450 or so is about the limit for a 4v it seems. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, 7.3 lbs, 368 hp, 406 rwtq. HARDCORE CREW

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October 21st, 2009, 08:33 PM	#5
04gtblkvert Newbie 2004 Mustang gt 14.21@97.05 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 42	Is the block weak and could you just put cobra rods, and pistons in?

October 22nd, 2009, 01:54 PM	#8
futureMACH1racer Moderator 2003 Jeep Too Slow Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,095	Mine let go at around 4xxish I think. I had a p&p'd intake, full boltons, suspension, and a tuned 150 shot. I didn't much care about hp numbers back then. __________________ Farming America For America Jake's PIITB Crew-Founder

October 22nd, 2009, 03:58 PM	#9
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang 13.62@104 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Terre Haute, IN / St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,869	^Based on what your mods are (if LTs are included in "full bolt-ons" you were probably putting down anywhere from 320 to 340 before the 150 shot. Throw that on top and you are at a minimum of 470 lol. __________________ Project: Fach You, In Progress

October 25th, 2009, 04:13 PM	#11
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,619	450 __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

October 26th, 2009, 03:19 AM	#13
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,551	question, so after u build the short block do you have to worry about the valves, spring, ect.....? __________________ 1999 Mustang Gt 1997 eclipse gst(the faster one of the two) MM Cobra Club #3

October 26th, 2009, 11:59 AM	#14
Scott2001GT MM Fanatic 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,384	thats 450rwhp though right? __________________ Silver Vehicle Club Member #7 SLP LM1 w/ O/R Mac Prochamber Ford Racing 4:10s SCT X3 Tuner JLT cai Black FR500's 18x10 & 18x9 wrapped it Nitto 555's! and some visual Fuck ya it's a 4R70W

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