What is everyones opinion on tuning on dyno or street tuning

CammedMysticCobra · November 20th, 2009, 03:14 AM

What do you think is more important. I know my answer just want to see opinions on one of the most important questions when it comes to tuning.

Trick Tuners · November 20th, 2009, 10:19 AM

A dyno is better to get peak power, but i've street tuned some crazy beasts.
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pyschopath76 · November 20th, 2009, 10:26 AM

im guessing that a dyno will give you the more beneficial aspect of getting your car tuned just right... but like Trick said i have seen some crazy street tuned machines that have never touched a dyno.

M.P. Cobra Fan · November 20th, 2009, 12:35 PM

I would stay street tuning just for the sake of driveablility. You get on the spot feedback.

AzSonicSnake · November 20th, 2009, 12:42 PM

i would say street tuning for a turbo car, but a s/c'd car can be done right on a dyno. my car was tuned on the dyno, and runs like a mutha on the street as well. plus trapping 129.9 in a ported eaton car at full weight at too shabby.

Trick Tuners · November 20th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by M.P. Cobra Fan

I would stay street tuning just for the sake of driveablility. You get on the spot feedback.

If i dyno tune a car it will have the same driveability as one of my street tunes. This is not the case for all tuners, because probably at least 50% or even 90% of the dyno tooners out there just do WOT tunes and don't mess with the stuff that takes a lot of time to dial in and make the car run like stock until you hit the gas. I could do a WOT tune in about 1/4 the time as a full tune.

M.P. Cobra Fan · November 20th, 2009, 01:19 PM

And that is exactly why as say a street tune. I really should not say that though. To me the tuner is more important then the tuning.

CammedMysticCobra · November 20th, 2009, 01:22 PM

All good answers so far
Trick tuners prety much hit it on the nail "that other stuff" is very important

Azsonic Snake 129 is deflty sick for full wieght Cobra but bet you anything that you tune that Cobra on the street you might gain another 1 or 2 on the strip. But the whole Turbo vs Sc on street and dyno both should be on street.

MpCobrafan very good point as well

But Iam still waiting to see if some can sate one of the reasons why street tuning is so important and why it is so different from dyno.

I have seen so many dyno queens with 800hp loose to 700 street tuned or sometime even lower hp and torque cars, and they were around the same weight because of course that would be the first factor.

CammedMysticCobra · November 20th, 2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by M.P. Cobra Fan

And that is exactly why as say a street tune. I really should not say that though. To me the tuner is more important then the tuning.

This is very ture very good tuners that are honest to custmer are hard to find as well.

AzSonicSnake · November 20th, 2009, 01:30 PM

with how consistant and reliable my car is, i cannot question the tune one bit. i went back in a few months back to have my tuner check the tune after two years, and its still spot on, and still making the number with a fresh set of plugs. my tuner is one of the best at tuning the 4v motor, so i cannot question his ability one bit.

CammedMysticCobra · November 20th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by AzSonicSnake

with how consistant and reliable my car is, i cannot question the tune one bit. i went back in a few months back to have my tuner check the tune after two years, and its still spot on, and still making the number with a fresh set of plugs. my tuner is one of the best at tuning the 4v motor, so i cannot question his ability one bit.

Thats what I woud call a tuner who knows what the hell is doing

Trick Tuners · November 20th, 2009, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by AzSonicSnake

with how consistant and reliable my car is, i cannot question the tune one bit. i went back in a few months back to have my tuner check the tune after two years, and its still spot on, and still making the number with a fresh set of plugs. my tuner is one of the best at tuning the 4v motor, so i cannot question his ability one bit.

While i cannot comment on the tune quality of your tune, having consistency has nothing to do with a good tune. I could give you a POS tune and it will be the exact same forever until you change a part, or the engine blows up

.

CammedMysticCobra · November 20th, 2009, 08:33 PM

Yes this true but it some cases you get tuners who will tell you have 600hp show it to you on dyno which could aslo be off than they might bring it down a bit and when you go out and race a car you should beat you get smoked. this is only very small group but it does happen especially in flordia lol.

CammedMysticCobra · November 22nd, 2009, 04:11 PM

Basically what I was trying to get to is that things change when the car has to haul its own weight or when it is on actua load. There have been times where even the air to fuel could change a bit. There is also the driving factors to consider like air that is being pushed into the motor to cool off which really cant be simulated even with those badass dyno fans that are syncronized with the dyno wheel. All these combined are very important factors to think about. Why do you think the fastest street or strip cars have been tuned for hours and have been dialed in after the dyno.

joexxx · November 22nd, 2009, 10:49 PM

Ok im going to sound like a total noob, but why's it matter where you tune your car? And what makes a street tune so good? or a dyno tune so good? And why would a street tune make faster times on the strip?

Mach Boy · November 22nd, 2009, 10:55 PM

It is actual driving conditions as opposed to simulated conditions. The downside to street tuning (unless at the track) is getting caught by the po po.

drazga97 · November 22nd, 2009, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by joexxx

Ok im going to sound like a total noob, but why's it matter where you tune your car? And what makes a street tune so good? or a dyno tune so good? And why would a street tune make faster times on the strip?

dyno tuning usually only accounts for WOT

Scott2001GT · November 23rd, 2009, 12:25 AM

i have this same questionso good thread start! I cant decide if I want to do a street or dyno tune with my P1sc and a 3.5k stall in it. I feel dyno b.c tuning with the lock up and such.

2002BLGT · November 23rd, 2009, 08:08 AM

I am a tuner that only street tunes , and I have zero complaints after my customers get their cars and I havent had any complaints when they go to the track either ....

ForestGRN_Ghost · November 23rd, 2009, 09:01 AM

street tune. a dyno will show you numbers on a chart.
a street tune will let you SEE how your putting it to the ground.

a car that dynos at 800hp on the dyno could be a peice of shit on
the street cause it cant put shit to the ground.

with that being said there could be some 600hp street tuned beast that
has a proper suspension and puts that 600hp to the ground.

bottom like a dyno will show you what your number is not what your time
at the track is.

November 20th, 2009, 03:14 AM	#1
CammedMysticCobra Regular Mustang MystiqueCobra2004 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 380 iTrader: 0 reviews	What is everyones opinion on tuning on dyno or street tuning What do you think is more important. I know my answer just want to see opinions on one of the most important questions when it comes to tuning. __________________ Full bolt ons Fully built Teksid Block Custom Comp Stage 10s missing JLT, Acufab TB and 2.8 Kenne http://www.youtube.com/user/MysticCobra04 Sold not lost and will never be forgotten.

November 20th, 2009, 10:19 AM	#2
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November 20th, 2009, 10:26 AM	#3
pyschopath76 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT slow as sin.... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 977 iTrader: 0 reviews	im guessing that a dyno will give you the more beneficial aspect of getting your car tuned just right... but like Trick said i have seen some crazy street tuned machines that have never touched a dyno. __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake/Accufab 70mm Throttle Body & Upper Plenum/SLP Longtube Headers/SLP Catted X-pipe/SLP LM1/4.10 gears Military Crew - AZ2(AW) Black Stang Member #6

November 20th, 2009, 12:35 PM	#4
M.P. Cobra Fan It's in the details Mod! 01 Cobra Vert Nov 09/10 ROTM! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ft Stewart/Naples/Hampton/Tampa Posts: 11,013 iTrader: 1 reviews	I would stay street tuning just for the sake of driveablility. You get on the spot feedback. __________________ Pinup in signature by loish.net Modded Mustangs Cobra Club#007 Military Crew E5 VOTED MM's BEST SIGNATURE 2010. THANKS STANGGTR07

November 20th, 2009, 12:42 PM	#5
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,640 iTrader: 1 reviews	i would say street tuning for a turbo car, but a s/c'd car can be done right on a dyno. my car was tuned on the dyno, and runs like a mutha on the street as well. plus trapping 129.9 in a ported eaton car at full weight at too shabby. __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

November 20th, 2009, 01:19 PM	#7
M.P. Cobra Fan It's in the details Mod! 01 Cobra Vert Nov 09/10 ROTM! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ft Stewart/Naples/Hampton/Tampa Posts: 11,013 iTrader: 1 reviews	And that is exactly why as say a street tune. I really should not say that though. To me the tuner is more important then the tuning. __________________ Pinup in signature by loish.net Modded Mustangs Cobra Club#007 Military Crew E5 VOTED MM's BEST SIGNATURE 2010. THANKS STANGGTR07

November 20th, 2009, 01:22 PM	#8
CammedMysticCobra Regular Mustang MystiqueCobra2004 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 380 iTrader: 0 reviews	All good answers so far Trick tuners prety much hit it on the nail "that other stuff" is very important Azsonic Snake 129 is deflty sick for full wieght Cobra but bet you anything that you tune that Cobra on the street you might gain another 1 or 2 on the strip. But the whole Turbo vs Sc on street and dyno both should be on street. MpCobrafan very good point as well But Iam still waiting to see if some can sate one of the reasons why street tuning is so important and why it is so different from dyno. I have seen so many dyno queens with 800hp loose to 700 street tuned or sometime even lower hp and torque cars, and they were around the same weight because of course that would be the first factor. __________________ Full bolt ons Fully built Teksid Block Custom Comp Stage 10s missing JLT, Acufab TB and 2.8 Kenne http://www.youtube.com/user/MysticCobra04 Sold not lost and will never be forgotten.

November 20th, 2009, 01:30 PM	#10
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,640 iTrader: 1 reviews	with how consistant and reliable my car is, i cannot question the tune one bit. i went back in a few months back to have my tuner check the tune after two years, and its still spot on, and still making the number with a fresh set of plugs. my tuner is one of the best at tuning the 4v motor, so i cannot question his ability one bit. __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

November 20th, 2009, 08:33 PM	#13
CammedMysticCobra Regular Mustang MystiqueCobra2004 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 380 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes this true but it some cases you get tuners who will tell you have 600hp show it to you on dyno which could aslo be off than they might bring it down a bit and when you go out and race a car you should beat you get smoked. this is only very small group but it does happen especially in flordia lol. __________________ Full bolt ons Fully built Teksid Block Custom Comp Stage 10s missing JLT, Acufab TB and 2.8 Kenne http://www.youtube.com/user/MysticCobra04 Sold not lost and will never be forgotten.

November 22nd, 2009, 04:11 PM	#14
CammedMysticCobra Regular Mustang MystiqueCobra2004 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 380 iTrader: 0 reviews	Basically what I was trying to get to is that things change when the car has to haul its own weight or when it is on actua load. There have been times where even the air to fuel could change a bit. There is also the driving factors to consider like air that is being pushed into the motor to cool off which really cant be simulated even with those badass dyno fans that are syncronized with the dyno wheel. All these combined are very important factors to think about. Why do you think the fastest street or strip cars have been tuned for hours and have been dialed in after the dyno. __________________ Full bolt ons Fully built Teksid Block Custom Comp Stage 10s missing JLT, Acufab TB and 2.8 Kenne http://www.youtube.com/user/MysticCobra04 Sold not lost and will never be forgotten.

November 22nd, 2009, 10:49 PM	#15
joexxx Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 53 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok im going to sound like a total noob, but why's it matter where you tune your car? And what makes a street tune so good? or a dyno tune so good? And why would a street tune make faster times on the strip?

November 22nd, 2009, 10:55 PM	#16
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	It is actual driving conditions as opposed to simulated conditions. The downside to street tuning (unless at the track) is getting caught by the po po. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

November 23rd, 2009, 12:25 AM	#18
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	i have this same questionso good thread start! I cant decide if I want to do a street or dyno tune with my P1sc and a 3.5k stall in it. I feel dyno b.c tuning with the lock up and such. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

November 23rd, 2009, 08:08 AM	#19
2002BLGT Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bedford VA Posts: 837 iTrader: 0 reviews	I am a tuner that only street tunes , and I have zero complaints after my customers get their cars and I havent had any complaints when they go to the track either ....

November 23rd, 2009, 09:01 AM	#20
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 992 iTrader: 0 reviews	street tune. a dyno will show you numbers on a chart. a street tune will let you SEE how your putting it to the ground. a car that dynos at 800hp on the dyno could be a peice of shit on the street cause it cant put shit to the ground. with that being said there could be some 600hp street tuned beast that has a proper suspension and puts that 600hp to the ground. bottom like a dyno will show you what your number is not what your time at the track is. __________________

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