thinking about longtubes

BWAL · December 28th, 2009, 05:33 PM

the car is a 1997 cobra

i blew out a catalytic converter a few days ago, so i said fuck it, why not redo my whole exhaust.

i'm looking at these headers. will they work on a cobra?

Mustang 96-98 Headers, Long Tube, 1 5/8, Ceramic, 5 Speed Only by BBK at LRS - Same Day Shipping!

with either a high flow catted h-pipe or o/r h-pipe

has anybody installed longtubes before? how hard is it? what all needs to be done? how long does it take? do i have to pull the engine?

what about 02 sensors? do i need to drill into the longtubes to install them or what? would i also need MIL eliminators?

i'm still kind of on the fence about this.. any reason why i should or shouldn't go for it? keep in mind i live in georgia, so i have to get my car inspected every year...

BWAL · December 28th, 2009, 05:40 PM

and what about ground clearance?

pyschopath76 · December 28th, 2009, 05:40 PM

well i can answer a couple of questions.

the sensors should come with an extension kit or you might have to buy them seperate i dont know. cant look at the link.
if you get inspected (im from GA) it all depends on the shop. the MIL eliminators if done right you "might" get away with it, but depending on the shop i dont know.

installing them is not "too" hard but you will have to lift the engine up a bit, i know i had too on mine but after that it was just getting out the old pipes that was the hardest.
sorry i couldnt help more but that is all i have for now.

pyschopath76 · December 28th, 2009, 05:41 PM

you will be fine with ground clearance on the tubes, you mid-pipe will hand down more than your tubes will.

98Cobra_sleeper · December 28th, 2009, 06:30 PM

long tubes on a 97 is alot of work, and will require that you drop the whole Kmember. I had a mustang specialty shop put my BBK longtubes on my 98 cobra, and it took 8 hrs of labor. the problem is that the engine and heads are so wide that there isnt' room to remove the bolts or get anything in or out for that matter

M.P. Cobra Fan · December 28th, 2009, 06:57 PM

Sounds like it is the same PITA, that it is on the 01's. That is exactly why I am not getting long tubes, or even considering them for mine. Not unless I ever have to pull the motor. That will be the only time I will consider longtubes.

rodeheavers · December 28th, 2009, 07:05 PM

they arent terrible, its about a fulls days labor at our shop, we charge 350$ to install a set if that gives you any idea... The bbk headers are about your best bang for the buck headers... you will have to buy the O2 exetenders seperate, the bbk ones run like 40$ a set. If you want to get an off-road h or x pipe, then i would say to forget the mil eliminators and go for an sct3015 programmer, they come with power proven tunes and can turn off the rear O2s, so you will pass all but the visual inspection for the emission testing..

BWAL · December 28th, 2009, 08:57 PM

thanks for the help guys.. seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. i guess i'll just get an o/r h-pipe and swap it out every year like i do with my 1992 LX

i'm looking at this one. it says it's only for GTs. will it work on a cobra, too?

BBK Off-Road H-Pipe (96-98 GT) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

G.T. Rags · December 28th, 2009, 09:00 PM

how did you blow it out?

<----snickers....teehee

HMUSN · December 28th, 2009, 09:02 PM

Why not just replace the cat man? It is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than putting on LT's

G.T. Rags · December 28th, 2009, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

Why not just replace the cat man? It is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than putting on LT's

ahem.......

Originally Posted by BWAL09

thanks for the help guys.. seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. i guess i'll just get an o/r h-pipe and swap it out every year like i do with my 1992 LX

i'm looking at this one. it says it's only for GTs. will it work on a cobra, too?

BBK Off-Road H-Pipe (96-98 GT) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping!

HMUSN · December 28th, 2009, 09:06 PM

swapping the cat is still cheaper and easier. lol

G.T. Rags · December 28th, 2009, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

swapping the cat is still cheaper and easier. lol

i don't think it's any easier.... cheaper maybe...... but i'm sure he can find a used pipe for under a hundred

HMUSN · December 28th, 2009, 09:09 PM

really? I guess you aren't as advanced in the laws of "my pockets are empty but I need my shit to work." lol

A cat for his car is like $60.
new.
that, 2 c clamps and a saw and you are done

G.T. Rags · December 28th, 2009, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

really? I guess you aren't as advanced in the laws of "my pockets are empty but I need my shit to work." lol

A cat for his car is like $60.
new.
that, 2 c clamps and a saw and you are done

bubba's got deep pockets

he makes the arby's secret sauce

BWAL · December 28th, 2009, 09:13 PM

i'm still replacing the cat, too. the plan is to take it to a shop tomorrow to get it installed ($175), buy an o/r H-pipe, install the new H-pipe, and just hold on to the stock one for when i have to get the car inspected next year

HMUSN · December 28th, 2009, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by G.T. Rags

he makes the arby's secret sauce

HMUSN · December 28th, 2009, 09:18 PM

You MUST tell your secret.

G.T. Rags · December 28th, 2009, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

You MUST tell your secret.

he jerks off with at warming lotion

BWAL · December 28th, 2009, 09:23 PM

i've jizzed in a couple of roast beef sandwiches in my day

December 28th, 2009, 05:33 PM	#1
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,656 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	thinking about longtubes the car is a 1997 cobra i blew out a catalytic converter a few days ago, so i said fuck it, why not redo my whole exhaust. i'm looking at these headers. will they work on a cobra? Mustang 96-98 Headers, Long Tube, 1 5/8, Ceramic, 5 Speed Only by BBK at LRS - Same Day Shipping! with either a high flow catted h-pipe or o/r h-pipe has anybody installed longtubes before? how hard is it? what all needs to be done? how long does it take? do i have to pull the engine? what about 02 sensors? do i need to drill into the longtubes to install them or what? would i also need MIL eliminators? i'm still kind of on the fence about this.. any reason why i should or shouldn't go for it? keep in mind i live in georgia, so i have to get my car inspected every year... __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

December 28th, 2009, 05:40 PM	#2
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,656 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	and what about ground clearance? __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

December 28th, 2009, 05:40 PM	#3
pyschopath76 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT slow as sin.... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 977 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i can answer a couple of questions. the sensors should come with an extension kit or you might have to buy them seperate i dont know. cant look at the link. if you get inspected (im from GA) it all depends on the shop. the MIL eliminators if done right you "might" get away with it, but depending on the shop i dont know. installing them is not "too" hard but you will have to lift the engine up a bit, i know i had too on mine but after that it was just getting out the old pipes that was the hardest. sorry i couldnt help more but that is all i have for now. __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake/Accufab 70mm Throttle Body & Upper Plenum/SLP Longtube Headers/SLP Catted X-pipe/SLP LM1/4.10 gears Military Crew - AZ2(AW) Black Stang Member #6

December 28th, 2009, 05:41 PM	#4
pyschopath76 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT slow as sin.... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 977 iTrader: 0 reviews	you will be fine with ground clearance on the tubes, you mid-pipe will hand down more than your tubes will. __________________ JLT Ram Air Intake/Accufab 70mm Throttle Body & Upper Plenum/SLP Longtube Headers/SLP Catted X-pipe/SLP LM1/4.10 gears Military Crew - AZ2(AW) Black Stang Member #6

December 28th, 2009, 06:30 PM	#5
98Cobra_sleeper Enthusiast 1998 mustang cobra Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: pa Posts: 617 iTrader: 0 reviews	long tubes on a 97 is alot of work, and will require that you drop the whole Kmember. I had a mustang specialty shop put my BBK longtubes on my 98 cobra, and it took 8 hrs of labor. the problem is that the engine and heads are so wide that there isnt' room to remove the bolts or get anything in or out for that matter __________________ HP twin turbo - 691hp/608tq with 15lbs huffed in (old setup) comin soon...ON3 turbo kit, PTE7175

December 28th, 2009, 06:57 PM	#6
M.P. Cobra Fan It's in the details Mod! 01 Cobra Vert Nov 09/10 ROTM! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ft Stewart/Naples/Hampton/Tampa Posts: 11,013 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sounds like it is the same PITA, that it is on the 01's. That is exactly why I am not getting long tubes, or even considering them for mine. Not unless I ever have to pull the motor. That will be the only time I will consider longtubes. __________________ Pinup in signature by loish.net Modded Mustangs Cobra Club#007 Military Crew E5 VOTED MM's BEST SIGNATURE 2010. THANKS STANGGTR07

December 28th, 2009, 07:05 PM	#7
rodeheavers Regular 1981 4 EYED FREAK 9.48@147 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: southwestern pa Posts: 328 iTrader: 0 reviews	they arent terrible, its about a fulls days labor at our shop, we charge 350$ to install a set if that gives you any idea... The bbk headers are about your best bang for the buck headers... you will have to buy the O2 exetenders seperate, the bbk ones run like 40$ a set. If you want to get an off-road h or x pipe, then i would say to forget the mil eliminators and go for an sct3015 programmer, they come with power proven tunes and can turn off the rear O2s, so you will pass all but the visual inspection for the emission testing.. __________________ www.rodeheavershotrod.com 9.48@147 on pump gas through the mufflers, still has pw,tilt,t-tops,all lights, wipers!!!, check out the vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SloE3Zdetac

December 28th, 2009, 08:57 PM	#8
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,656 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	thanks for the help guys.. seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. i guess i'll just get an o/r h-pipe and swap it out every year like i do with my 1992 LX i'm looking at this one. it says it's only for GTs. will it work on a cobra, too? BBK Off-Road H-Pipe (96-98 GT) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

December 28th, 2009, 09:02 PM	#10
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	Why not just replace the cat man? It is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than putting on LT's __________________

December 28th, 2009, 09:06 PM	#12
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	swapping the cat is still cheaper and easier. lol __________________

December 28th, 2009, 09:09 PM	#14
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	really? I guess you aren't as advanced in the laws of "my pockets are empty but I need my shit to work." lol A cat for his car is like $60. new. that, 2 c clamps and a saw and you are done __________________

December 28th, 2009, 09:13 PM	#16
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,656 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	i'm still replacing the cat, too. the plan is to take it to a shop tomorrow to get it installed ($175), buy an o/r H-pipe, install the new H-pipe, and just hold on to the stock one for when i have to get the car inspected next year __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

December 28th, 2009, 09:18 PM	#18
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	You MUST tell your secret. __________________

December 28th, 2009, 09:23 PM	#20
BWAL MSTRB8N & MDR8N 2021 Mustang V15 Quad Turbo with nawz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: On The Shaft Posts: 19,656 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 4 reviews	i've jizzed in a couple of roast beef sandwiches in my day __________________ MM 1 am boner crew Cars and mod list in garage i like veiny meat sliding between my buttcheeks

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