kenne bell 2.1 in a 97 cobra

Keasbey · April 21st, 2010, 02:31 PM

I just got my cobra and am wanting to start modding it. ive read up and am thinking of going with the kenne bell 2.1 and keeping the boost below the 11psi as advertised. (Mustang Cobra 4.6 Supercharger)

my question is, the kit seems all inclusive as far as what is needed to get it up and running, but if i start looking at other things like CAI and LT what do i need to consider to make sure they all work in sync together? and since it comes with pulleys it would seem pointless to upgrade my current ones correct?

Thanks

ReverendDexter · April 21st, 2010, 02:41 PM

To answer your last question, it's pointless to do pullies on b-ports anyway.

Exhaust is going to pretty much be the same N/A or boosted, the only real difference might be the CAI, which I'd recommend holding off until you install the S/C, just in case it has a different setup that would invalidate a stock CAI.

mystk96 · April 21st, 2010, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

To answer your last question, it's pointless to do pullies on b-ports anyway.

Exhaust is going to pretty much be the same N/A or boosted, the only real difference might be the CAI, which I'd recommend holding off until you install the S/C, just in case it has a different setup that would invalidate a stock CAI.

why is it pointless to do pullies

ReverendDexter · April 21st, 2010, 05:35 PM

Because B-ports already had slightly underdriven pullies compared to GTs, and pullies don't get you that much power anyway - maybe a 5hp gain at max rpm. Down low, they don't change the rpm of your accessories enough to get you anything.

mystk96 · April 21st, 2010, 05:50 PM

i know they dont add power but i thought they did more than add power like let your motor rev faster due to them being lighter than the stock. mainly the only thing they are good for

ChrisJ · April 21st, 2010, 05:51 PM

Stay away from KB with b heads...

Non-intercooled kits are all they have...

Get a procharger and you will be ALOT happier...

BTW B Heads are the heads to have for boost...

ReverendDexter · April 21st, 2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by mystk96

i know they dont add power but i thought they did more than add power like let your motor rev faster due to them being lighter than the stock. mainly the only thing they are good for

Well, the motor can rev faster because less power is being used to turn the accessories - that's where the added power comes from. Same deal with a lighter flywheel - by having less mass, it takes less power to turn it, and you have less parasitic loss, giving you a net gain.

Honestly, unless it's a full-on race car, I think UDPs are asinine. If they make enough difference to actually get you any measurable power, they're underdriving your accessories enough to cause issues on a long, low-rpm drive. If they don't cause any issues with low-rpm drivability, they're not netting you any power.

$100 in the toilet if you ask me.

mystk96 · April 21st, 2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Well, the motor can rev faster because less power is being used to turn the accessories - that's where the added power comes from. Same deal with a lighter flywheel - by having less mass, it takes less power to turn it, and you have less parasitic loss, giving you a net gain.

Honestly, unless it's a full-on race car, I think UDPs are asinine. If they make enough difference to actually get you any measurable power, they're underdriving your accessories enough to cause issues on a long, low-rpm drive. If they don't cause any issues with low-rpm drivability, they're not netting you any power.

$100 in the toilet if you ask me.

had some on my 01 gt and it had a noticeable diff in reving my buddy and i sat his 02 and my 01 next to each other and free reved em mine seemed to rev faster

'97'Cobra · April 21st, 2010, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=ChrisJ;2806120]Stay away from KB with b heads...

Non-intercooled kits are all they have...

QUOTE]

Why do you say that?... I knew i guy running the kit and his car ran fine.
I too am looking at getting the kit in the future so more info the better.

mystk96 · April 21st, 2010, 06:15 PM

[quote='97'Cobra;2806160]

Originally Posted by ChrisJ

Stay away from KB with b heads...

Non-intercooled kits are all they have...

QUOTE]

Why do you say that?... I knew i guy running the kit and his car ran fine.
I too am looking at getting the kit in the future so more info the better.

run methanol

'97'Cobra · April 21st, 2010, 06:17 PM

true, I really want a roots style to make up for the low end torque

Scott2001GT · April 21st, 2010, 06:33 PM

[quote=mystk96;2806183]

Originally Posted by '97'Cobra

run methanol

Keasbey · April 21st, 2010, 11:27 PM

see now you guys are going in a whole new direction, im just wanting some solid HP to atleast keep around the new camaros and mustangs, i figure 450-500 range tops. if i can get that without having to change the internals for right now im all about it.

mystk96 · April 22nd, 2010, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Keasbey

see now you guys are going in a whole new direction, im just wanting some solid HP to atleast keep around the new camaros and mustangs, i figure 450-500 range tops. if i can get that without having to change the internals for right now im all about it.

cams heads intake methanol fi full exhaust yes possibly

'97'Cobra · April 22nd, 2010, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Keasbey

see now you guys are going in a whole new direction, im just wanting some solid HP to atleast keep around the new camaros and mustangs, i figure 450-500 range tops. if i can get that without having to change the internals for right now im all about it.

you will be pushing the motor to its limits asking for 500 plus. How many miles are on your motor?

Keasbey · April 22nd, 2010, 11:10 AM

80k miles.

blownandstroked · April 22nd, 2010, 11:16 AM

Like chrisJ said GO PROCHARGER......NICE CHARGERS AND INTERCOOLED...ENOUGH SAID.

mystk96 · April 22nd, 2010, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by blownandstroked

Like chrisJ said GO PROCHARGER......NICE CHARGERS AND INTERCOOLED...ENOUGH SAID.

and you can run meth

ReverendDexter · April 22nd, 2010, 12:12 PM

I wonder if anyone's ever ran meth by hiding it in a meth-injection setup. Like, literally, little baggies of methamphetamine inside their methanol holding tank.

Officer: "What's this?"
Runner: "Meth injection, duh."
Officer: "Any meth in there?"
Runner: "Well of course there is, it wouldn't work elsewise, hahaha."

mystk96 · April 22nd, 2010, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

I wonder if anyone's ever ran meth by hiding it in a meth-injection setup. Like, literally, little baggies of methamphetamine inside their methanol holding tank.

Officer: "What's this?"
Runner: "Meth injection, duh."
Officer: "Any meth in there?"
Runner: "Well of course there is, it wouldn't work elsewise, hahaha."

lol intercooler meth and a small shot of spray

April 21st, 2010, 02:31 PM	#1
Keasbey Regular 97 cobra Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 74 iTrader: 0 reviews	kenne bell 2.1 in a 97 cobra I just got my cobra and am wanting to start modding it. ive read up and am thinking of going with the kenne bell 2.1 and keeping the boost below the 11psi as advertised. (Mustang Cobra 4.6 Supercharger) my question is, the kit seems all inclusive as far as what is needed to get it up and running, but if i start looking at other things like CAI and LT what do i need to consider to make sure they all work in sync together? and since it comes with pulleys it would seem pointless to upgrade my current ones correct? Thanks

April 21st, 2010, 02:41 PM	#2
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	To answer your last question, it's pointless to do pullies on b-ports anyway. Exhaust is going to pretty much be the same N/A or boosted, the only real difference might be the CAI, which I'd recommend holding off until you install the S/C, just in case it has a different setup that would invalidate a stock CAI. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

April 21st, 2010, 05:35 PM	#4
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	Because B-ports already had slightly underdriven pullies compared to GTs, and pullies don't get you that much power anyway - maybe a 5hp gain at max rpm. Down low, they don't change the rpm of your accessories enough to get you anything. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

April 21st, 2010, 05:51 PM	#6
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	Stay away from KB with b heads... Non-intercooled kits are all they have... Get a procharger and you will be ALOT happier... BTW B Heads are the heads to have for boost... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

April 22nd, 2010, 12:12 PM	#19
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	I wonder if anyone's ever ran meth by hiding it in a meth-injection setup. Like, literally, little baggies of methamphetamine inside their methanol holding tank. Officer: "What's this?" Runner: "Meth injection, duh." Officer: "Any meth in there?" Runner: "Well of course there is, it wouldn't work elsewise, hahaha." __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

April 21st, 2010, 05:50 PM	#5
mystk96 Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 trd tacoma sport Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cleveland Ga Posts: 1,237 iTrader: 0 reviews	i know they dont add power but i thought they did more than add power like let your motor rev faster due to them being lighter than the stock. mainly the only thing they are good for

April 21st, 2010, 11:27 PM	#13
Keasbey Regular 97 cobra Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 74 iTrader: 0 reviews	see now you guys are going in a whole new direction, im just wanting some solid HP to atleast keep around the new camaros and mustangs, i figure 450-500 range tops. if i can get that without having to change the internals for right now im all about it.

April 22nd, 2010, 11:10 AM	#16
Keasbey Regular 97 cobra Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 74 iTrader: 0 reviews	80k miles.

April 22nd, 2010, 11:16 AM	#17
blownandstroked Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT Posts: 115 iTrader: 0 reviews	Like chrisJ said GO PROCHARGER......NICE CHARGERS AND INTERCOOLED...ENOUGH SAID.

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