[04MachOne]

Originally Posted by termin8er03 Yes termys are heavier but not enough to justify not gettin one.

They aren't talking about getting a Terminator, they're talking about putting the engine and tranny of one into his GT.

[manolith]

Originally Posted by -nick- Are you comparing the handling of an SRA Mach with a "few suspension mods" to an IRS termi with a "few suspension mods"? I'd hope the termi can out handle the SRA Mach. And you are telling us you'd take your iron block out of your termi over the aluminum teksid block out of the Mach?

is a fact that sra can handle just as good if not better than irs cobras with the proper suspenssion mods ofcourse. look up the gripboxes at maximum motorsports.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by manolith is a fact that sra can handle just as good if not better than irs cobras with the proper suspenssion mods ofcourse. look up the gripboxes at maximum motorsports.

This. SRA has a HUGE advantage over IRS in that it has an effective dynamic negative camber gain under compression. You need fancy pants SLA-style IRS (i.e. not the Cobra setup) to replicate the ability of the SRA to keep the wheels flat on the pavement.

[termin8er03]

Originally Posted by -nick- Are you comparing the handling of an SRA Mach with a "few suspension mods" to an IRS termi with a "few suspension mods"? I'd hope the termi can out handle the SRA Mach. And you are telling us you'd take your iron block out of your termi over the aluminum teksid block out of the Mach?

Well yes and yes... just my view. everybody has there own.

[04MachOne]

Originally Posted by manolith is a fact that sra can handle just as good if not better than irs cobras with the proper suspenssion mods ofcourse. look up the gripboxes at maximum motorsports.

Oh yeah I know but he was saying just a "few" suspension upgrades and saying his cobra with a few upgrades was better. I mean obviously right off the bat the cobra will handle better and even a "few" upgrades might not mean it'll be able to out-handle an IRS.

[termin8er03]

Originally Posted by -nick- They aren't talking about getting a Terminator, they're talking about putting the engine and tranny of one into his GT.

sorry misunderstood... my apoligies...

[04MachOne]

Originally Posted by termin8er03 Well yes and yes... just my view. everybody has there own.

The teskid block is easily one of the strongest blocks Ford makes, that's not an opinion, it's a fact. Handling it will take more than a "few" upgrades for the SRA to handle like/better than IRS so I can understand that.

[termin8er03]

From what i understand the iron block will handle more boost... i may be mistaken

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by termin8er03 From what i understand the iron block will handle more boost... i may be mistaken

It might, but it's at power levels that most people never build to. Everything I've ever heard and read is that a teskid block with proper internals is good to 4 digit horsepower. Ford went to the iron block for the Termies because that was after they had stopped using the Teskid in favor of the WAP block, and the WAPs wouldn't handle what Ford wanted to do with the Terminator.

[Thumbie]

So teskid is the best block, Stock vs stock IRS is better? I'll probably be getting a 96-98 due to money restraints, although I saw a black 99 for only $8500. no way am I getting a Termie....for the money I would rather get a 3-valve

of the SN95 cobra's I have heard 97 is best? somthing about new style fuel system in 98 that did handle as much boost? I'm for sure not boosting my car though so thats not in consideration.

you guys have so much damn info keep it comin!

[ReverendDexter]

I definitely prefer the aesthetics of the '96-98. One of the best looking modern Mustangs IMO.

96 and 97 have the dash clock, and have a retun-style fuel system. 98 I hear different things... that it was sill return style, that it was the first year for returnless, and that it had some wonky one-off setup. Hell, I *had* a '98 and couldn't tell you what it had, as I never did anything that required upgrading the fuel system. EDIT: The more I think about it, the more certain I am that '99 was the first year of returnless.

One thing to watch for on the b-ports is the steering wheel. Sounds lame, but the leather on those things goes to trash pretty quickly under sunlight. I replaced mine with an FR500 wheel, and it was worth every penny for the better wheel.

You have the typical issue with T45s, in that they don't have internal shift stops, so you'll want to get an aftermarket shifter on there ASAP. I had a tri-ax, I'd like to try the MGW. One really nice thing about the tri-ax is that it uses the stock shift handle mounting, so if you're weird like me and prefer a LONGER handle that you can actually reach without having your seat so far forward you eat the steering wheel, you can use the stock shift lever on the tri-ax base (that was the set-up I ended up preferring).

[Thumbie]

Sounds good, my friend. there is a white one I have been looking at that has 113k miles, with a new engine with 50k. Is that something I should walk away from?

edit: might as well post the link http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/1835163912.html

[Thumbie]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter My understanding is that once you put a diff brace on it and replace the IRS subframe bushings, it's actually fairly stout. I'd talk to FTBR (Full Tilt Boogie Racing Homepage) about your plans and see what they say.

I just spent about 3 hours on the FTB racing page reading all their stuff about fixing the irs. Really makes me want an IRS and replace all the rubber bushings with aluminum. Also the way he makes it out to be, it sounds like a hard launch (like in a drag race) will destroy the irs system. the cobra IRS is one of the wierdest suspension systems I've ever heard of.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by Thumbie it sounds like a hard launch (like in a drag race) will destroy the irs system.

Maybe a stock one, but there's guys turning 10s, and maybe even 9s on built IRSs. My understanding is the half-shafts are the weak-point, and you can get significantly stouter ones if you know you're gonna take it to the strip.

[sikedsyko]

As long as you keep the engine mostly stock and don't add any huge power, I doubt you'll destroy the rear end with the IRS. Mine's been launched plenty of times decently hard.