Mach 1 internals question

Bush18 · September 8th, 2010, 07:04 PM

are the internals (rods, crank, pistons) same in an 04 mach 1 as an 03-04 cobra's internals??

manolith · September 8th, 2010, 07:53 PM

no maybe and no. the mach 1 does not have forged rods or pistons. and only the 5speed mach 1 has the cobra crankshaft.

steweod · September 9th, 2010, 04:59 AM

That is true but i believe there was a few 03 models that used production SVT engines they can be ID'd by the SVT plate on the valve covers like on the Cobras

manolith · September 9th, 2010, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by steweod

That is true but i believe there was a few 03 models that used production SVT engines they can be ID'd by the SVT plate on the valve covers like on the Cobras

Are you sure? I never Seen a mach1 with an iron block of a terminator. They all have aluminum blocks.

RFAIR · September 12th, 2010, 06:43 PM

manolith is absolutely correct.

static74 · September 12th, 2010, 08:57 PM

note that the mach 1 also uses an aluminum block, and the internals are *said* to be good for 450rwhp.

Lefty · September 12th, 2010, 10:04 PM

03/04 Cobra internals > than 01 and lower Cobra & 03/04 Mach internals

crossfire876 · September 14th, 2010, 04:26 PM

Termi motor is forged, mach is not.
Mach 1 does have the forged crank in the 5spds, not the automatic
Termi motor makes more power lower, Mach needs to wind out more.
If I'm not mistaken the Mach 1 has the 3650 tranny in it. Not really a great transmission imo and many buddies around here have ruined them with reasonable power.

With that said, I think the shaker is sexy.

TRMach1 · September 14th, 2010, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by crossfire876

Termi motor is forged, mach is not.

Mach 1 does have the forged crank in the 5spds, not the automatic

Termi motor makes more power lower, Mach needs to wind out more.

If I'm not mistaken the Mach 1 has the 3650 tranny in it. Not really a great transmission imo and many buddies around here have ruined them with reasonable power.

With that said, I think the shaker is sexy.

LOL! Don't sell the TR3650 short! It's the last stock piece of my drivetrain left in the car!

crossfire876 · September 15th, 2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by TRMach1

LOL! Don't sell the TR3650 short! It's the last stock piece of my drivetrain left in the car!

That's impressive. With 600+ hp I'd have looked for the 6spd T56. Personal friend around here torched his 3650 w/ <500hp, but he abuses his. Props to you, either you really take care of your car, baby it, or else you know some trade secret that I'm missing out on =)

manolith · September 15th, 2010, 11:06 AM

The 3650 can handle 600whp as long as you ligt the gas while shifing and don't go superman on third gear. The weak link is the 10spline input shaft that can be replaced by a 26spline for little money.

TRMach1 · September 15th, 2010, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by crossfire876

That's impressive. With 600+ hp I'd have looked for the 6spd T56. Personal friend around here torched his 3650 w/ <500hp, but he abuses his. Props to you, either you really take care of your car, baby it, or else you know some trade secret that I'm missing out on =)

This is my secret weapon! It gets alot of laughs and giggles from the youngsters, but I've never missed a shift, and I can powershift 2nd, 3rd, and 4th with the KB at full boost!

In all seriousness though, I fully expect the tranny to crap out at some point, and when it does, I have a Viper spec T56 waiting to go in, but right now it's sitting on the floor collecting dust.

September 8th, 2010, 07:04 PM	#1
Bush18 Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 191 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mach 1 internals question are the internals (rods, crank, pistons) same in an 04 mach 1 as an 03-04 cobra's internals?? __________________ Its a gas guzzlin, tire burnin, environmentally dominatin machine.

September 8th, 2010, 07:53 PM	#2
manolith Hardcore Enthusiast 11 Mustang GT Track times coming soon. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 1,721 iTrader: 0 reviews	no maybe and no. the mach 1 does not have forged rods or pistons. and only the 5speed mach 1 has the cobra crankshaft. __________________ 2011 Mustang GT MT. Ford Racing K springs, Boss intake manifold, JLT Cold air intake, BBR O/R Xpipe, Ford Racing 4.10 gears, TA Rear End Girdle, VMP E85 Tune/BBR 93 Tune.

September 9th, 2010, 04:59 AM	#3
steweod Regular 04 GT 5.4 DOHC Twin 67mm Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 216 iTrader: 0 reviews	That is true but i believe there was a few 03 models that used production SVT engines they can be ID'd by the SVT plate on the valve covers like on the Cobras __________________

September 12th, 2010, 10:04 PM	#7
Lefty Resident DJ '01 Cobra Vert. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 28,699 iTrader: 12 reviews	03/04 Cobra internals > than 01 and lower Cobra & 03/04 Mach internals __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S (the daily) 2006 Yamaha R6 50th Anniversary Edition (the other toy)

September 14th, 2010, 04:26 PM	#8
crossfire876 Regular 1998 Dodge Dakota Sport Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 90 iTrader: 0 reviews	Termi motor is forged, mach is not. Mach 1 does have the forged crank in the 5spds, not the automatic Termi motor makes more power lower, Mach needs to wind out more. If I'm not mistaken the Mach 1 has the 3650 tranny in it. Not really a great transmission imo and many buddies around here have ruined them with reasonable power. With that said, I think the shaker is sexy. __________________ 2003 Mustang GT-SOLD-1996 SVT Cobra -SOLD-

September 12th, 2010, 06:43 PM	#5
RFAIR Newbie 2004 Mach 1 Mustang S/C Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: LEXINGTON, SC Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	manolith is absolutely correct.

September 12th, 2010, 08:57 PM	#6
static74 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	note that the mach 1 also uses an aluminum block, and the internals are said to be good for 450rwhp.

September 15th, 2010, 11:06 AM	#11
manolith Hardcore Enthusiast 11 Mustang GT Track times coming soon. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 1,721 iTrader: 0 reviews	The 3650 can handle 600whp as long as you ligt the gas while shifing and don't go superman on third gear. The weak link is the 10spline input shaft that can be replaced by a 26spline for little money. __________________ 2011 Mustang GT MT. Ford Racing K springs, Boss intake manifold, JLT Cold air intake, BBR O/R Xpipe, Ford Racing 4.10 gears, TA Rear End Girdle, VMP E85 Tune/BBR 93 Tune.

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