Where to look?

03blackmach1 · December 13th, 2010, 10:29 AM

I'm looking for a set of Cams for my 03 mach 1 and i was wondering from others experiences where they got them from and what's a good price for everything?

rst1523 · December 14th, 2010, 06:17 PM

i was looking on americanmuscle.com and i think they were like 3k with springs and retainers. That was for stage 2 CompCams XE-R cams

Mach Boy · December 14th, 2010, 08:45 PM

Are you getting a blower in the future? Can you do the work yourself?

DickH · December 14th, 2010, 09:10 PM

what kind of cams are you looking for?

03blackmach1 · December 15th, 2010, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mach Boy

Are you getting a blower in the future? Can you do the work yourself?

My plans right now are to stay N/A. As for doing the work, i would take it to a shop around town since i dont have the proper tools or time to do a job like this.

Mach Boy · December 15th, 2010, 08:30 PM

A lot of guys like running the Comp Cams 106400. They are a stage 2 cam grind so they are still streetable if that's what you are looking for.

Look to spend $1200 for cams alone. Then you'll have to add springs, retainers, and labor in with that. It'll be in the neighborhood of $3000 for everything. Usually cams are the last thing you want to do though to finish up your build. So if you have bigger plans than just cams I'd do those first.

DickH · December 15th, 2010, 09:04 PM

or you could be cheap and pick up 96-98 cobra intake cams for under 200 easily and gain 15-20hp.

rst1523 · December 16th, 2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by DickH

or you could be cheap and pick up 96-98 cobra intake cams for under 200 easily and gain 15-20hp.

explain. and why not both cams?

DickH · December 16th, 2010, 01:28 PM

96-98 cobra cams have more duration on the intake, exhaust cams are pretty much the same.

rst1523 · December 16th, 2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by DickH

96-98 cobra cams have more duration on the intake, exhaust cams are pretty much the same.

im assuming just put them in and tune? Are you sure they will work on a mach

Mach Boy · December 16th, 2010, 01:57 PM

They are a direct swap. The only thing is, is it really worth it to you to drop in $100 cams, that give maybe 10hp, when you will be paying over $1000 probably closer to $1500 for the labor? That's why I asked if you could do it or not. If you can do the work yourself then yeah 96-98 Cobra intake cams are a good/cheap alternative. If you can't it's best just to save your money and get the best bang for your buck otherwise it will be a huge waste of money IMO.

Mach Boy · December 16th, 2010, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by DickH

or you could be cheap and pick up 96-98 cobra intake cams for under 200 easily and gain 15-20hp.

15-20 with a ported intake. You'll be in the 325-340 range with Cobra cams and a ported intake vs 355-370 with aftermarket cams and that number will be higher on that range or into the 370s with a ported intake.

DickH · December 16th, 2010, 05:31 PM

Or you can go over to svtperformance.com and get some used gt500 cams for 200-300 bucks. I believe those have more lift as well as a little more duration.

Mach Boy · December 16th, 2010, 09:42 PM

Don't those cams have the same profiles as the Ford GT? If that's the case it's still not worth the labor cost for what little you gain IMO.

DickH · December 17th, 2010, 02:00 AM

Yeah I guess if you pay to have cams done you might as well go for larger gains. What are typical gains from a decent set of cams for a 4v?

03blackmach1 · December 17th, 2010, 01:48 PM

So basically i should save up 3000 for both parts and labour and buy the better cam? Its not worth it in my books to spend 1500 for like 10-15 ponies...

Mach Boy · December 17th, 2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by DickH

Yeah I guess if you pay to have cams done you might as well go for larger gains. What are typical gains from a decent set of cams for a 4v?

I was at 300rwhp even when I had my motor rebuilt. I had to buy new cams because mine were busted, but I didn't have the money to go with a great aftermarket cam. I added LTs, ported intake and the FR500 cam kit and picked up 60hp and roughly 25tq. If I would have had the money to get a great cam as opposed to the rather mild FR500 I would have picked up another 10-15. So roughly I gained somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-40hp on just the cams.

Originally Posted by 03blackmach1

So basically i should save up 3000 for both parts and labour and buy the better cam? Its not worth it in my books to spend 1500 for like 10-15 ponies...

Yep. Now you know why people just go blower on these cars. Once you get that 3,000 saved up your pretty close to having a blower paid for and you'll make more power.

03blackmach1 · December 17th, 2010, 05:14 PM

Yeah cams hardly seem worth it when you look at it that way...blower sounds like the better bang for your buck deal

December 13th, 2010, 10:29 AM	#1
03blackmach1 Regular 2003 mustang mach 1 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: pei Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 reviews	Where to look? I'm looking for a set of Cams for my 03 mach 1 and i was wondering from others experiences where they got them from and what's a good price for everything?

December 14th, 2010, 08:45 PM	#3
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Are you getting a blower in the future? Can you do the work yourself? __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

December 14th, 2010, 09:10 PM	#4
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,188 iTrader: 2 reviews	what kind of cams are you looking for? __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

December 15th, 2010, 08:30 PM	#6
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	A lot of guys like running the Comp Cams 106400. They are a stage 2 cam grind so they are still streetable if that's what you are looking for. Look to spend $1200 for cams alone. Then you'll have to add springs, retainers, and labor in with that. It'll be in the neighborhood of $3000 for everything. Usually cams are the last thing you want to do though to finish up your build. So if you have bigger plans than just cams I'd do those first. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

December 15th, 2010, 09:04 PM	#7
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,188 iTrader: 2 reviews	or you could be cheap and pick up 96-98 cobra intake cams for under 200 easily and gain 15-20hp. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

December 14th, 2010, 06:17 PM	#2
rst1523 Regular 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 reviews	i was looking on americanmuscle.com and i think they were like 3k with springs and retainers. That was for stage 2 CompCams XE-R cams

December 16th, 2010, 01:28 PM	#9
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,188 iTrader: 2 reviews	96-98 cobra cams have more duration on the intake, exhaust cams are pretty much the same. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

December 16th, 2010, 01:57 PM	#11
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	They are a direct swap. The only thing is, is it really worth it to you to drop in $100 cams, that give maybe 10hp, when you will be paying over $1000 probably closer to $1500 for the labor? That's why I asked if you could do it or not. If you can do the work yourself then yeah 96-98 Cobra intake cams are a good/cheap alternative. If you can't it's best just to save your money and get the best bang for your buck otherwise it will be a huge waste of money IMO. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

December 16th, 2010, 05:31 PM	#13
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,188 iTrader: 2 reviews	Or you can go over to svtperformance.com and get some used gt500 cams for 200-300 bucks. I believe those have more lift as well as a little more duration. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

December 16th, 2010, 09:42 PM	#14
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Don't those cams have the same profiles as the Ford GT? If that's the case it's still not worth the labor cost for what little you gain IMO. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

December 17th, 2010, 02:00 AM	#15
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,188 iTrader: 2 reviews	Yeah I guess if you pay to have cams done you might as well go for larger gains. What are typical gains from a decent set of cams for a 4v? __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

December 17th, 2010, 01:48 PM	#16
03blackmach1 Regular 2003 mustang mach 1 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: pei Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 reviews	So basically i should save up 3000 for both parts and labour and buy the better cam? Its not worth it in my books to spend 1500 for like 10-15 ponies...

December 17th, 2010, 05:14 PM	#18
03blackmach1 Regular 2003 mustang mach 1 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: pei Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah cams hardly seem worth it when you look at it that way...blower sounds like the better bang for your buck deal

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