[tommyboy2008]

Anyone that has done a 3.8 to 4.6 DOHC, I'd like to go over what I have ready to go in and make sure Im not going to need anything else before I start...
First off the car is a 2004 base model mustang with the 3.8 auto...
The motor im swaping in is a fully dressed 1999 Cobra with a T-45 on the k-member ready to install
I have-
ALL wires from a 1999 cobra. (nose to tail)
1999 cobra speedometer
1999 cobra ecu
clutch pedal assembly
hydroboost system
driveshaft from a GT that had the T-45
mishimoto alluminum radiator
8.8 rear w/ 4:30 gears
Sniper tuner to turn off PATS and get a tune

I have some extras like bbk long tubes, bbk catted h-pipe, flowmasters, line lock, steeda short throw shifter, spec alluminum flywheel w/ Luk pro gold clutch kit, bbk clutch cable and quadrant, some cooling mods ect..

It appears I can use the stock fuel pump. I checked the part number and its the same and the emissions appear to me like I can just run my vac lines from the engine into the emissions that is already on my car. That about it. I just want to see if anyone that has done this ran into any suprises. Thanks for any input.

[tommyboy2008]

oh, one other question...the abs? my abs says v6 and the cobra says "cobra". Do I need the "cobra" abs umm, thinga ma jig the abs control doodad or can I use my v6 abs control box?

[ZoomZoomMFer]

the abs should be fine as far as i know. And from the looks of it, you should have everything you need.

[fastpony]

I would swap fuel pumps if i were you. you dont wanna run the chance of going lean.

[southfour!]

Originally Posted by fastpony I would swap fuel pumps if i were you. you dont wanna run the chance of going lean.

Im pretty sure 99 cobra/v6/gt's all use the same fuel pump

[fastpony]

ok, just checking....

[southfour!]

Originally Posted by fastpony ok, just checking....

im about 90% sure, i think i remember reading that somewhere

[tommyboy2008]

hey thanks guys, i guess im ready to get started
heres a link to my facebook photos if anyone cares to follow along with the build. I didnt start the tear down yet. hopefully this weekend
My Cobra project | Facebook

[scp616]

sounds like you got everything you need. Let me know what you think of the sniper tuning, I'll probably be using that for my engine swap as well

[rst1523]

Originally Posted by southfour Im pretty sure 99 cobra/v6/gt's all use the same fuel pump

can a 210hp v6 use the same fuel pump as a 320hp cobra? Not so sure about that, but i havent put any research into it. Just doesn't seem right. IMO

[89StangGT]

Originally Posted by rst1523 can a 210hp v6 use the same fuel pump as a 320hp cobra? Not so sure about that, but i havent put any research into it. Just doesn't seem right. IMO

I thought the same thing..weird.

[89StangGT]

PS..

Please don't add ANY of this bullshit to the exterior of your car. They look so much better with a stock body, lowered, with a nice set of wheels.

"this is what the outside will look like after im done..minus the chic"

[southfour!]

Originally Posted by rst1523 can a 210hp v6 use the same fuel pump as a 320hp cobra? Not so sure about that, but i havent put any research into it. Just doesn't seem right. IMO

Speed Concepts - CBRAPMP9801 - OEM fuel pump for 1998-2001 Cobra/2001 bullitt/2003-2004 Mach1

Motorcraft part # PFS200

Pump module is also OEM on these applications:
FORD F-250 SUPER DUTY PICKUP (1999 - 2004)
FORD F-350 SUPER DUTY PICKUP (1999 - 2004)
FORD F-450 SUPER DUTY PICKUP (1999 - 2004)
FORD F-550 SUPER DUTY PICKUP (1999 - 2004)
FORD MUSTANG (2001 - 2004)
FORD MUSTANG BULLITT 2001
FORD MUSTANG COBRA (1998 - 2001)
FORD MUSTANG GT (1998 - 2004)
FORD MUSTANG MACH 1 (2003 - 2004)

according to this the 99-00 v6 pump must be a bit different, but if this is OEM on the 01-04 v6 than the op's stock pump should still be fine as there is only a 3 hp difference between the 99-00 and 01-04 v6 motors.

[tommyboy2008]

yeah I checked what the fuel pressure is supposed to be for the 99 cobra and its the same as my v6. plus the part number is the same for the pump and even the fuel pump driver module is the same. So I should be good to go. I have a fuel pressure guage to put on the fuel line just to make sure im getting the correct pressure.

89StangGT-...I did like the look of the black mustang above but I dont care for the rear window scoops. The ONLY thing im doing to the exterior is putting on a 03-04 cobra rear bumper cover and a cobra-R front cover. I've been considering getting the rear window louvers but im still not sure. I like my stock hood which my car has the gt hood (came on the 40th anniv. edition) I've also changed my mind about the side exhaust as well. I also have lowering springs for it. I think the are 1 1/2"

Thanks for all the replies..

[tommyboy2008]

I definetly wouldnt be doing this swap if I had not come across the CRAZY deals I been finding...some people just dont know what they have. For example...the 99 cobra engine-$1k w/ 22k miles on it from a trusted guy I know, T-45 $250 w/ 28k miles on it (another trusted friend), all but new bbk long tubes $75 bucs!(MPS) ALL the wires- $400(ebay). A PERFECT CONDITION 03-04 cobra rear bumper cover $150! very nice leather seats-$250 (same guy I got the engine from). Hyrdroboost-$75. Everything else I bought new so I didnt save too much on the other stuff.
It all adds up but like I keep telling people that ask why,- I cant get back the money I spent on my v6 so I might as well put some cash in my car instead of selling it for maybe 3500 and loosing 4k. so I take another 4k and build a cobra I can say "I" built..So you can say I spent about....12k TOTAL for what is going to be a bad ass car that I know inside and out.
.Just some food for thought
Oh, next year depending on the funds...motor rebuild with forged internals and yes the good ol' S/C

[tommyboy2008]

How do you guys have a pic on your profile?? I just have "NEWBIE"

[brett22]

I am also doing the swap but in a month after I finish building my turbo 4V, I'd say your list of parts is decent. There are some other parts I think you are missing but can't think of them off the top of my head

[89StangGT]

Originally Posted by brett22 I am also doing the swap but in a month after I finish building my turbo 4V, I'd say your list of parts is decent. There are some other parts I think you are missing but can't think of them off the top of my head

If that's your V6 car in your sig, you have the best looking sixxer I've ever seen, props.

Originally Posted by tommyboy2008 Oh, next year depending on the funds...motor rebuild with forged internals and yes the good ol' S/C

Coming from a V6 to a N/A 32v will be plenty fun for a while, especially if you do some gears with it as well. The S/C swap down the road will be even funner.

Originally Posted by tommyboy2008 89StangGT-...I did like the look of the black mustang above but I dont care for the rear window scoops. The ONLY thing im doing to the exterior is putting on a 03-04 cobra rear bumper cover and a cobra-R front cover. I've been considering getting the rear window louvers but im still not sure. I like my stock hood which my car has the gt hood (came on the 40th anniv. edition) I've also changed my mind about the side exhaust as well. I also have lowering springs for it. I think the are 1 1/2" Thanks for all the replies..

Glad to hear that! I'm not a huge fan of the Cobra R front cover, but it's better than some I've seen!

[brett22]

Originally Posted by 89StangGT If that's your V6 car in your sig, you have the best looking sixxer I've ever seen, props.

Yep thats the V6 and THANKS. Actually love this car more than the termi I have lol

[1999cobra92]

i would also swap out the brakes... you know just in case you dont have enough stopping power