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Old January 7th, 2011, 01:11 PM   #1
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Story: My buddy was talkin shit sayin that I'm stupid to choose a Cobra over a Roush. Like a LOT of shit talking telling peiple that I don't know a thing about cars and saying that a 2011 V6 could take me.

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2003 SVT Cobra Convertible - 19,xxx miles at $21,xxx
390 Horsepower
390 Torque
6 Speed
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2006 Roush Stage 3 Coupe Supercharger - Unknown mileage at $26,000
415 Horsepower
385 Torque
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Is it really that much power? If so then why do people buy Roush?
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Old January 7th, 2011, 01:18 PM   #2
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#1) He is the one who doesn't know anything if he thinks a 2011 V6 could take an 03 Cobra...a stock cobra has a full second in the 1/4 compared to the V6.

#2) It is your car, your money, your choice! Who cares what he thinks? If HE likes the Roush better, then maybe he should buy it for himself.

and also...people don't buy their cars just because of hp ratings. The Roush is heavier than the 03 Cobra anyways, so they both I'm sure are pretty even when it comes to 1/4 mile numbers. But the car that you want because you like it and you are attracted to it. Not because someone say a Roush is better than a Cobra. They are both specialty vehicles, anyways.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #3
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The Roush Stage 3 is going to be pretty nasty because it already has all the work done to it including suspension. If you want a nice looking car that you can just hop in and go, than it's perfect. Sadly though, it's pretty much maxed out at that point. A Stage 3 Roush is still just a 3V SOHC motor that can't handle the power a Terminator Cobra can. Use the $5,000 you saved on the Cobra, buy a Whipple or Kenne Bell, run about 17# of boost, and shit all over the Roush.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #4
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No, he said a 2011 V6 could take my 2003 Mach 1.

I meant 'choosing' as 'preferring'.

That's sad for that much money... I'd MUCH rather have a 2003 Cobra than a Roush. Especially with the price difference is could buy a top of the lineupgraded Supercharger KIT.
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No, he said a 2011 V6 could take my 2003 Mach 1.

I meant 'choosing' as 'preferring'.

That's sad for that much money... I'd MUCH rather have a 2003 Cobra than a Roush. Especially with the price difference is could buy a top of the lineupgraded Supercharger KIT.
a 2011 V6 runs 13.7 @ 103...your Mach 1 should be running 13.4x's at around 105...still wouldn't win. And really...who cares? a 2011 V6 is almost as fast as my car was when n/a...I'd rather keep my car with no payments, put a little money into it and make it haul ass (as I did lol).

Noone is going to have the same answer...as I said before, everyone has a different preference. Everyone isn't going to say...Oh for sure, it is a fact that every mustang owner would 'choose' the Roush over the Cobra.
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Well, stock for stock a new V6 isn't that far off from your Mach1. Same HP, similair weight. The Mach has a better torque curve though, which gives it it's advantage.

And as far as the Roush vs. Cobra goes, don't get me wrong, a Stage 3 Roush is an amazing car. I've seen some really nasty turbo charged ones. Plus, they are so very sexy. But just like any other Mustang GT (which is what the Roush basically is) it has a much lower ceiling to deal with when talking about horsepower compared to the 03-04 Cobras.

And trust me, Cobras aren't without their own problems.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #7
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Tell your friend to get a clue! I own an 03 Mach 1 (yeah, I know, it's way not stock!), and a 2011 Mustang V6 auto w/Pony Package (wife's car), and there ain't no way on God's green earth that the '11 V6 is gonna beat even a stock Mach 1! It just doesn't have the necessary torque to get the job done. In fact, if you don't disable the advance trac system completely, the thing is pretty much a dog until up around 3500-4000 rpms! That's not to say that with a little tweaking it can't be a quick little bugger, just not out of the box. The ride and handling though are light years ahead of the old SN95 platform.

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if i had the money i would choose the stage 3, gots looks, power and handeling, but like stated above its gonna be ur car not anybody elses so go with wat u like.
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This particular Roush is absolutely beautiful. Yellow with black wheels, carbonfiber hood, black deals, and the brakes on the car brings out the wheels, but it is really just a borrowed longblock from the GT of that year? For $26,000 I'd much rather buy a bone stock Termi and buy a complete twin screw kit with the saved money. Sad.

Also, unless its opted for, the V6 only has 2.73:1 gears and only 260 torque.
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Also, unless its opted for, the V6 only has 2.73:1 gears and only 260 torque.
My wife's has the optional 3.31 rear gears.
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Originally Posted by Calogero6685 View Post
Story: My buddy was talkin shit sayin that I'm stupid to choose a Cobra over a Roush. Like a LOT of shit talking telling peiple that I don't know a thing about cars and saying that a 2011 V6 could take me.

Numbers:

2003 SVT Cobra Convertible - 19,xxx miles at $21,xxx
390 Horsepower
390 Torque
6 Speed
IRS
Weight advantage

2006 Roush Stage 3 Coupe Supercharger - Unknown mileage at $26,000
415 Horsepower
385 Torque
5 Speed
SRA
Visual advantage

Is it really that much power? If so then why do people buy Roush?
26k is the base price for a GT before ford sends it to Roush to get modified. It's about 47k to 50k when said and done. I know this cause I used to sell cars for ford. Ex. the base price for a GT500 is 45k we sold them for 75k to 80k. So I would say you saved alot more for buying the Cobra.
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I can't wait to see him because he also said that it should have atleast 550 and the engine is built by Roush crew members. Lol, I can't wait to shit on his day.
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saleen cobra (03/04) is my favorite they made 39 total 3 of which are mystichrome. have yet to come across a 03/04 roush cobra heard rumors of them though.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 01:50 AM   #15
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Saleen Cobra!? Drool...

That car would see no road and wash and waxed everyday..
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