[joshdj13]

well my i'm looking to upgrade to a mach 1. i plan to supercharge it within a short time of getting the car, and i know i can get a eaton for really cheap would the swap be worth it or should i just go with a centri? also you s/c guys what kind of power are you making on the stock bottom. thanks guys

[Cabikejumper]

You'll have better answers in the 4v section.

I would go KB

[99 blk gt]

I have a chance to trade my modded 99 gt with 110k for a 03 black Mach 1 with 66k on it basically stick except for straight pipe set up or cat delete something like that I forget what he has. It's an auto thought and it's also a salvage title due to theft it was stolen then recovered 3 weeks later and now carries a salvage title. Never had an auto anything and I hate them but it's very tempting. If it was a stick I'd do it in a second salvage or not I'm not planning on selling my gt anytime soon and this Mach is 4 years newer and faster but with an auto there are a few difference than the stick like a cast crank instead of forged and a 5800 redline instead of 6800 redline and the fact that it's auto did I mention that already lol. But everyone said go for it and do it the 4 v aluminum block and heads are too much to pass up on and the car is prolly worth the same as mine in its salvage condition. He is asking 8000$ and hasn't had one person interested since October so he is down with a trade he wants a stick. A clean title Mach 1 is like 13000 lol. Get 4.10 gears a 3800 stall and bring my sct tuner with me change the shift points and firmness and put the 93 tune on it and everyone said it would be just as fun but idk I wanna go mash on it a bit and check it out.

[Mach Boy]

Originally Posted by joshdj13 well my i'm looking to upgrade to a mach 1. i plan to supercharge it within a short time of getting the car, and i know i can get a eaton for really cheap would the swap be worth it or should i just go with a centri? also you s/c guys what kind of power are you making on the stock bottom. thanks guys

You're better off just getting a Terminator. The S/C parts alone for the Eaton conversion are going to cost 3 grand. There's a lot more to it than you think. Plus if you want to get more power in the future you have no room to grow.

[termi_GT]

My car is a mach 1 longblock with eaton swap.Track time is under my screenname. The car makes 411 to the wheels. through an auto with stock pulleys. As long as you keep power around 450 with a good tune will live.

I am getting ready to throw a 2.93 upper and build the tranny with a converter and see how deep in the 11' s it will go. It was worth to me. I have way less then 3k in it though.

Not too worried about it popping though I plan on going whipple with a built shortblock in another year or so.

[joshdj13]

well i found a couple of machs in my area for around 10k and termis in my area go for 18-20k. i've also found eaton setups for around 300 so i dont know why it would cost 3k to do if i do the labor. i would try for a 99-01 cobra but i dont care for irs and the shaker scoop is one of the top selling points for me.

[glittle75]

I have a KB Mach, KB cost about 6k said and done, tuned and all. And I didnt spend anything on labor. You may see Eatons for a few hundred bucks, but it is NOT all your going to need. you cant just take the eaton itself and bolt it up. You need all the little parts. It adds up fast, look at one of the MANY eaton swap write ups here, and you will see that 3k is probly the average price for an eaton swap on an Mach. I went Kenne Bell because of the ability to grow once the shortblock gets forged. Im currently just below 500rwhp with the stock untouched LONGblock through a stock 3650 as well. And yes the Shaker was what made me want a mach over a termi. Between that and the condition of the Mach i got, it was an easy choice.

[TRMach1]

Unfortunately, at this point in time, Kenne Bell has stopped selling the blower kits for the Mach 1 and 99/01 Cobra due to Ford obsoleteing/discontinuing the Cobra lower manifold pieces that came in the kit. I know you can still purchase the blower, but not the full bolt-on kit.

[futureMACH1racer]

I am a centri fan over positive displacement blowers... My opinioned may be biased, but a D1 would be pretty nice on that Mach...

[na svt]

You can run low 11 second quarter miles with a low boost centri like a procharger P1 or a vortech S trim. The procharger D1 is too much for a stock Mach shortblock. PD blowers make great power but consist of a lot of parts and are more expensive than centris. PDs are also are hard on the rotating assembly.

I just picked up a low mile procharger P1 for my Mach, it'll make 450 at the wheels thru the auto trans and like I said earlier, will get the car into the low 11s with the right supporting mods.

[joshdj13]

yeah i'm leaning towards a centri. the main reason i would go with the eaton swap would be cause i could get it cheap and i like that roots make more torque. idk decisions, decisions.

i saw a vid of a mach with drag radials run a 12.8 so i would like to see 11's with a blower a few bolt ons and some suspension.

[na svt]

Originally Posted by joshdj13 i saw a vid of a mach with drag radials run a 12.8 so i would like to see 11's with a blower a few bolt ons and some suspension.

N/A, manual trans mach 1s in stock form can run 12.90s with sticky tires. Add the normal bolt-ons and they are a low 12 second car. A centri or PD blower will get them into the mid to low 11s with ease.

My auto trans mach with only a converter, 4.10 gears and cobra intake cams is capable of 12.50s.

[TRMach1]

With 315/35/17 MT ET Streets Drag Radials

[na svt]

Originally Posted by TRMach1 With 315/35/17 MT ET Streets Drag Radials

It's not a stock block nor is it an eaton swap or a centri which is what the OP has and wants.

[89StangGT]

Why not just buy a Cobra? Forged bottom end, already Supercharged...seems like you'd save a lot of time/hassle/BS.

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by na svt It's not a stock block nor is it an eaton swap or a centri which is what the OP has and wants.

What people say they want, and what they usually wind up with, are two totally different things. IMO, anybody who puts a blower on a stock rotating assembly 4.6L mod motor isn't doing themselves, or the motor any favors.

And you can talk all you want about safe tunes, low boost, yadda, yadda, yadda, in the end, the life of that engine will be shortened considerably. If you're so hard up for money that you can't invest the funds to forge the internals first, then you shouldn't even be thinking about forced induction, period!

I've watched friends of mine go with centri blowers at 8-9 psi, safe tunes from nationally recognized tuners, like Jon Lund, keep the power level around 450whp or so, and not beat on the car, and yeah, it'll last for awhile, and then one day, BOOM! A ring land breaks and it's game over. Some will get away with it, some won't. Might as well take that money you spent on that blower, go to the casino, plunk it down on red or black, and let it ride, because that's pretty much the same odds you're gonna have bolting it onto that motor! If you win, then you can take your winnings and pay to have forged internals put in the motor.

People will insure their homes, their cars, their lives, their dogs, but when it comes to building up an engine, their too damn cheap to get an insurance policy, in the form of some stronger internal parts that'll save them major grief down the road.

The internet forums are full of people who bought into that line of BS, and are now crying over the money they have to spend to fix their blown up motors!

[Jcatmach1]

Buy my 03 procharged mach. 454 rwhp
PM me if interested in details


Mach 1 procharged for sale

[joshdj13]

Originally Posted by 89StangGT Why not just buy a Cobra? Forged bottom end, already Supercharged...seems like you'd save a lot of time/hassle/BS.

like i said in a previous comment, cobras are about 10k more than a mach in my area and i like sra instead of irs

[joshdj13]

Originally Posted by Jcatmach1 Buy my 03 procharged mach. 454 rwhp PM me if interested in details Mach 1 procharged for sale

if you weren't on the other side of the country i would consider it. love the car btw.

[Jcatmach1]

Thanks. Good choice on a mach, u won't regret it