[Black03Mach]

The time has come to finally start to order the parts for the mach. Were going for 700 horsepower through a 76mm turbo with the option to go down to 500 through a tko600. Here is my parts list:
FRPP Aluminator 8.5 to 1
TKO600 from ProMotion or a built automatic
On3performance w/upgraded turbo, suspension parts, injectors,blahblah
Lethal Performance Budget Style return fuel system
Lethal Performance Cobra Fuel Tank
31 Spline Differential and Axles
UPR Bumpsteer kit
Evenflow Cooling Mod
Spec Stage 3+ Clutch
Full length Subframe Connectors
Panhard Bar
A tire to put the power to the ground.

Gonna be a good time, but is there anything i should change, add or modify. I am having Kevin from wicked motorsports build the car and i will be sure to make a thread and include pictures on the whole journey.

[WooMach1]

Just curious, how much is this all going to cost you. Just looking at how much something like this setup would cost if I were to do this to my Mach

[ReverendDexter]

Curious why of all the suspension mods you could pick, you've got a bumpsteer kit and a panhard bar.

Does it already have aftermarket control arms out back? Considering this looks to be a straight-line car, I'd be doing LCAs and UCAs.

I also wouldn't be looking at bumpsteer kit unless you're lowering the car, and I don't see any mention of springs or shocks.

[Black03Mach]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter Curious why of all the suspension mods you could pick, you've got a bumpsteer kit and a panhard bar. Does it already have aftermarket control arms out back? Considering this looks to be a straight-line car, I'd be doing LCAs and UCAs. I also wouldn't be looking at bumpsteer kit unless you're lowering the car, and I don't see any mention of springs or shocks.

On3 requires a bumpsteer kit, coilover, tubualr k and a arms. Im debating on getting the maximum motorsports rear grip package.
Rear Grip Package, 1999-04, XD, Standard [MMRG-11] : Maximum Motorsports, the Latemodel Mustang Performance Suspension Leader!

still debating if i want to just do coilovers in the rear too as opposed to this idea.

And im hoping to spend 21k said and done, but who knows. the parts alone add up to over 16k.

[TRMach1]

I agree with the Rev., upper and lower control arms, I went with Steeda. I'd also go with some type of adjustable shocks and struts, like Tokico D-specs. Is the Aluminator going to be just a short block? Because if it's the long block, you don't need the cooling mod, as the heads were revised to deal with that issue.

[futureMACH1racer]

I suggest you do your research on the On3 kit, the fitment is terrible, the welds are of poor quality, and the customer service is something to be desired. The kit was based off of a 99 Cobra, and the differences between the two result in a lot of fabrication. Not to mention the parts that are furnished in the kit by On3 are chincy...

I suggest you consider, STS, Hellion, or HP... All whom are very reputable comapnies that include everything you need in their kits. On3 doe not!

[futureMACH1racer]

Look on SVTP, as there is a write up about someone who went down this road and was very unhappy.

Also ModularSpeed did a write about his On3 intll on his 98 Cobra. I know he had some issues with fitment, and quality of parts.

[Black03Mach]

Originally Posted by TRMach1 I agree with the Rev., upper and lower control arms, I went with Steeda. I'd also go with some type of adjustable shocks and struts, like Tokico D-specs. Is the Aluminator going to be just a short block? Because if it's the long block, you don't need the cooling mod, as the heads were revised to deal with that issue.

Awesome, i did not know that. I will most likely want to go with a long block to have the car ready by june for carlisle. American muscle actually sells the aluminator which entitles me to free shipping, and im only located three hours from their warehouse so fast delivery.

The thing with the turbo is I only really need the hot side, kevin would prefer to make a cold side for me because he has a way he likes. I looked and couldnt find JUST hot side products anywhere.

[Black03Mach]

Another issue i am having is picking a compression ratio, i read the the 8.5 to 1 is too low even for twinscrew applications. Should i go for the 10:1 compression, i really dont want the car to be a dog accelerating from a light with normal driving

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by Black03Mach Another issue i am having is picking a compression ratio, i read the the 8.5 to 1 is too low even for twinscrew applications. Should i go for the 10:1 compression, i really dont want the car to be a dog accelerating from a light with normal driving

I don't know how it would be with a turbo, but I have the Aluminator 8.5:1cr long block, and it ain't a dog in the acceleration department! And that's with 3.73 gears, and the stock TR3650 5-speed trans.

[Black03Mach]

Are you still on your stock 3650? I dont plan on launching the car hard at the track, not a big issue for me. I have to worry about turbo lag, not much and issue with a twin screw.

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by Black03Mach Are you still on your stock 3650? I dont plan on launching the car hard at the track, not a big issue for me. I have to worry about turbo lag, not much and issue with a twin screw.

Yes, and it still gets the job done! It's been over three years since the build was done, and the transmission hasn't failed me yet. I have a Viper-spec T56 collecting dust in a storage locker for the day when the 5-speed finally gives it up.

[WickedSnake00]

Originally Posted by futureMACH1racer Look on SVTP, as there is a write up about someone who went down this road and was very unhappy. Also ModularSpeed did a write about his On3 intll on his 98 Cobra. I know he had some issues with fitment, and quality of parts.

I saw a writeup on Corral a guy did with his SN95 Cobra and he was overall pleased with it.

Originally Posted by Black03Mach Another issue i am having is picking a compression ratio, i read the the 8.5 to 1 is too low even for twinscrew applications. Should i go for the 10:1 compression, i really dont want the car to be a dog accelerating from a light with normal driving

Are you running pump gas? I wouldn't go over 9.5:1 on pump gas if you're boosting it. Going as high as 10:1 might require you to run lower boost or E85 if you're really going to push it. 9-9.5:1 would be a good window to go with.

[futureMACH1racer]

Originally Posted by WickedSnake00 I saw a writeup on Corral a guy did with his SN95 Cobra and he was overall pleased with it. Are you running pump gas? I wouldn't go over 9.5:1 on pump gas if you're boosting it. Going as high as 10:1 might require you to run lower boost or E85 if you're really going to push it. 9-9.5:1 would be a good window to go with.

I have heard more horror stories about On 3 Kits than good... Just saying...

[Black03Mach]

I understand the on3 kits, but the guy stands behind his crap and if there is an issue it gets taken care of. American muscle only has the low compression and the high compression level so i guess the low one it is.

TRMach, do you beat on the car often? Im really debating the tko, but if i can get away with the stock trans for awhile then i will. Are those your nitrous numbers? I do not plan on running slicks at the track just a street radial. More than likely going to drive the car around at 550 to the wheels but i dont want the thing to pop on me.

[futureMACH1racer]

Originally Posted by Black03Mach I understand the on3 kits, but the guy stands behind his crap and if there is an issue it gets taken care of. American muscle only has the low compression and the high compression level so i guess the low one it is. TRMach, do you beat on the car often? Im really debating the tko, but if i can get away with the stock trans for awhile then i will. Are those your nitrous numbers? I do not plan on running slicks at the track just a street radial. More than likely going to drive the car around at 550 to the wheels but i dont want the thing to pop on me.

Really? because I have heard of nothing but horrid stories of the company's customer service. I helped a family friend do and install on his SN95 2v. The welds were of terrible quality, and I actually had to cut some of the welds and re-weld them. I have seen better quality out of some the students in a college welding course that I took.

My T3650 gave out on me while the car was pushing around 440rwhp on the bottle. Granted I was at the track often, and did a whole lot of powershifting. I don't see how it wouldn't hold up if you're easy on it...

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by Black03Mach ...TRMach, do you beat on the car often? Im really debating the tko, but if i can get away with the stock trans for awhile then i will. Are those your nitrous numbers? I do not plan on running slicks at the track just a street radial. More than likely going to drive the car around at 550 to the wheels but i dont want the thing to pop on me.

No, I don't beat on the car at all, and it's not a daily driver either. That's not to say that I drive it like an old lady either! I went into the build wanting a badass STREET CAR, and the street is alot more forgiving than a drag strip, or race track is. I made that one pass at the drag strip, and because I didn't have a roll cage, I was politely asked to leave and not come back until I had installed one. In all reality, that probably will never happen. I'm one of those lucky people who never had any issues with the TR3650 transmission, like grinding into second gear, third gear lockout, yada, yada. When I did the build, I ran out of funds before the transmission replacement could be done, so I rolled the dice, and haven't had a problem with it yet. I eventually got the money to buy the T56, but like I said it won't go in until this one breaks. Oh, and yes, those numbers are with the 100 shot of nitrous.

[Black03Mach]

Originally Posted by futureMACH1racer Really? because I have heard of nothing but horrid stories of the company's customer service. I helped a family friend do and install on his SN95 2v. The welds were of terrible quality, and I actually had to cut some of the welds and re-weld them. I have seen better quality out of some the students in a college welding course that I took. My T3650 gave out on me while the car was pushing around 440rwhp on the bottle. Granted I was at the track often, and did a whole lot of powershifting. I don't see how it wouldn't hold up if you're easy on it...

Yeah, i dont mean to contradict you but the stories i read the people got either the wrong parts or some were missing and he sends em out right away. Im willing to try it because its over 2000 dollars less than the hellion with the option of kmember, coilovers, injectors, MAF. Im not installing crap (my car came with full exhaust but me and a couple friends did my springs and it was a disaster. eventually got it done 8 hours later) because 1) I dont know what the fuck im doing 2) I dont have time or tools to complete it 3)Time is certainly a factor, i want the car to be ready by carlisle in june.

That being said Ill leave it in the hands of my builder to make it work. Hopefully everything works out, i hope i dont get stranded one day because my transmission takes a shit on me, so ill most likely get the trans while the engine is out anyway.

[futureMACH1racer]

Originally Posted by Black03Mach Yeah, i dont mean to contradict you but the stories i read the people got either the wrong parts or some were missing and he sends em out right away. Im willing to try it because its over 2000 dollars less than the hellion with the option of kmember, coilovers, injectors, MAF. Im not installing crap (my car came with full exhaust but me and a couple friends did my springs and it was a disaster. eventually got it done 8 hours later) because 1) I dont know what the fuck im doing 2) I dont have time or tools to complete it 3)Time is certainly a factor, i want the car to be ready by carlisle in june. That being said Ill leave it in the hands of my builder to make it work. Hopefully everything works out, i hope i dont get stranded one day because my transmission takes a shit on me, so ill most likely get the trans while the engine is out anyway.

The Hellion kits are complete, with the On 3 kit you still have to buy a lot of stuff, so you don't end saving as much as everyone thinks. but what do I know, I only helped a kid install an On 3 kit that that was effed up...

Goodluck with your build..

[TRMach1]

Originally Posted by Black03Mach ...Time is certainly a factor, i want the car to be ready by carlisle in june...

Good luck with it! I plan on being at Carlisle also. Look me up when you get there, I'll be with the crew from The Mach1Registry.com.