Mail order tune

flyingbullitt · January 18th, 2008, 02:09 PM

Hey guys im new to the 4v world with the recent purchase of my 04 COBRA

I was thinking about geting a mail order tune from Amazon. I already bought a 2.80 pullie, bbk o/r x-pipe, JLT cai, magnaflow catback, now just need a tune. Any feedback would be appriciated.

TheUNZippee! · January 18th, 2008, 02:12 PM

*waves at fellow Ontarian* lol

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 02:13 PM

The only thing that requires a re-tune is the 2.80 pulley and CAI. I would get a hand held and do it yourself. A mailorder tune is risky business IMO.

weems · January 18th, 2008, 02:18 PM

Mail order tunes are good, but when you go to doing major mods like that it would be alot better to go ahead and get it dyno tuned.

Montanasvt · January 18th, 2008, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by flyingbullitt

Hey guys im new to the 4v world with the recent purchase of my 04 COBRA I was thinking about geting a mail order tune from Amazon. I already bought a 2.80 pullie, bbk o/r x-pipe, JLT cai, magnaflow catback, now just need a tune. Any feedback would be appriciated.

I got my 02 Lightning dyno tuned from there.. Rick sent me a mail order tune so i could make it up there... then i had to pay dyno time...when i went up there my first pull i made 390hp... he said that that was right on, but he wanted to tweak it just a bit... my next pull i made 411hp.. plus another 20 lb/tq... i wouldn't trust a dyno tune, but can be safe if not driven too hard... thats the only was i would use a dyno tune ( just to make it to my tuner)... rick is probably the best tuner for 03-04 cobras... take it to him

weems · January 18th, 2008, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Montanasvt

I got my 02 Lightning dyno tuned from there.. Rick sent me a mail order tune so i could make it up there... then i had to pay dyno time...when i went up there my first pull i made 390hp... he said that that was right on, but he wanted to tweak it just a bit... my next pull i made 411hp.. plus another 20 lb/tq... i wouldn't trust a dyno tune, but can be safe if not driven too hard... thats the only was i would use a dyno tune ( just to make it to my tuner)... rick is probably the best tuner for 03-04 cobras... take it to him

you mean you wouldnt trust a mail order tune?

HMUSN · January 18th, 2008, 02:33 PM

I would prefer a street tune off a data log to a dyno tune any day.

TheUNZippee! · January 18th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Yeah I wouldn't trust a mail order tune. Check out either

BRENSPEED, BBK BMR SCT STEEDA MAC PYPES SLP MUSTANG PERFORMANCE PARTS

or

BamaChips Tuning

for tunes & tuners. This way you will have someone who knows your car, and you will have support if something goes wrong or you change something and need to update your tune(s).

Montanasvt · January 18th, 2008, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by weems

you mean you wouldnt trust a mail order tune?

yea i wouldn't... remember what happened to justin's lightning... KA BOOM !!!

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 02:47 PM

Anyone who can "tune" your car without actually being there strikes me as risky. I wouldnt get excited over a mail order tune. Get it done the right way the first time.

weems · January 18th, 2008, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

I would prefer a street tune off a data log to a dyno tune any day.

+1, check out Trick Tuners, SCT Flash Tuners, SCT Flash Custom Tuning, PLX Devices widebands and gauges, SCT Flash tuners, SCT Xcal2, sct livewire, sct xcalibrator

thats who tuned my car..

HMUSN · January 18th, 2008, 03:19 PM

^ same here.

Casper98GT · January 18th, 2008, 04:03 PM

Mail order tunes are decent, but i can only say that for 05+ cars. Because they are N/A and pretty much everyone does the same things for most tunes. I would stay away from a mail order for a 03-04 cobra or like others said the svt trucks. WHy i say this is because they are s/c and everything relys on a safe tune. One wrong move and youre motor will be at risk. If you go have it tuned at a dyno they have live data and everything will be cool. They can tune conservative,like mail orders do for s/c cars, but a dyno in my area i am good friends with have dyno'd mail order cobras with pulleys and exhaust and every single car has run lean. I say its an expensive car to begin with, dont take chances with mail orders

weems · January 18th, 2008, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Casper98GT

Mail order tunes are decent, but i can only say that for 05+ cars. Because they are N/A and pretty much everyone does the same things for most tunes. I would stay away from a mail order for a 03-04 cobra or like others said the svt trucks. WHy i say this is because they are s/c and everything relys on a safe tune. One wrong move and youre motor will be at risk. If you go have it tuned at a dyno they have live data and everything will be cool. They can tune conservative,like mail orders do for s/c cars, but a dyno in my area i am good friends with have dyno'd mail order cobras with pulleys and exhaust and every single car has run lean. I say its an expensive car to begin with, dont take chances with mail orders

Like i said, with mods like that, go and have it dyno tuned. Just like goblin said its not worth blowing your motor. One of my buddies has a 03 L and he put a lower pulley and a few other things on and got a mail order tune. Ran fine for a couple of weeks but now there is a big ass hole in his block.

Trick Tuners · January 18th, 2008, 04:23 PM

There have been some issues with the L's not responding to timing changes and detonating and that is probably the case for that motor. Many of the top tuners have seen this issue, but could not figure out a fix. More than half of the email tunes i do are on boosted applications. As long as you are smart about it and watch the AF and listen for detonation email tunes are plenty safe. Dyno tunes can cause problems and blow motors just as easily. I had a friend get tuned at a dyno (not my me) and when he took me for a spin it was detonating like crazy. The terminators are easy to tune too. It you want to squeeze out that last 5-10 hp then do it on the dyno. If you want a good tune that drives like stock, email tunes are the way to go. Email tunes require that the customer is computer literate and at least know a little about their car. If you know nothing about the car, and have trouble loading software in windows, then take it to a dyno and let the pros do it. Email Tunes Explained

KingChronic · January 18th, 2008, 05:07 PM

get a mail order tune from amazon, with a pulley, theres no problem with it, they've done a million of them.

you should get it dyno'd though, and datalog the dyno pull too, to check you A/F, and then send the datalog back to them to look over.

Montanasvt · January 19th, 2008, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by KingChronic

get a mail order tune from amazon, with a pulley, theres no problem with it, they've done a million of them.

you should get it dyno'd though, and datalog the dyno pull too, to check you A/F, and then send the datalog back to them to look over.

although they have done it many times you are still not getting your true potential...if you didn't read my post, I got 20 more HP from Ricks mail order tune to a dyno tune that rick thought was already perfect... why not get a dyno tune so you can pick up more HP/TQ, get A/F ratio perfect, and not have to worry about anything messing up... I dunno about any of you, but i still have a car payment... i would hate to be paying on something that i couldn't drive

flyingbullitt · January 19th, 2008, 08:01 AM

Well it looks like the only way to tune is on a dyno. I found two shops that are around 5hrs away, they are Steeda and Dasilva. Have any of you been to these shops for tuning? Thanks again.

KingChronic · January 19th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Montanasvt

although they have done it many times you are still not getting your true potential...if you didn't read my post, I got 20 more HP from Ricks mail order tune to a dyno tune that rick thought was already perfect... why not get a dyno tune so you can pick up more HP/TQ, get A/F ratio perfect, and not have to worry about anything messing up... I dunno about any of you, but i still have a car payment... i would hate to be paying on something that i couldn't drive

i know these cars well, and with just a pulley if you compare a dyno tune to reputable tuners mail order, your not going to pick up more than maybe 5-10RWHP, thats not worth the $300 IMHO. much better things would be bought with that $$. for pulley only, mail order is the way to go.

Montanasvt · January 19th, 2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by KingChronic

i know these cars well, and with just a pulley if you compare a dyno tune to reputable tuners mail order, your not going to pick up more than maybe 5-10RWHP, thats not worth the $300 IMHO. much better things would be bought with that $$. for pulley only, mail order is the way to go.

well i picked up 20hp from an Amazon tune that he thought he wouldn't have to adjust...and Rick knows his shit...but thats your opinion...

January 18th, 2008, 02:09 PM	#1
flyingbullitt Newbie 04 COBRA, 01 BULLITT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mail order tune Hey guys im new to the 4v world with the recent purchase of my 04 COBRA I was thinking about geting a mail order tune from Amazon. I already bought a 2.80 pullie, bbk o/r x-pipe, JLT cai, magnaflow catback, now just need a tune. Any feedback would be appriciated.

January 18th, 2008, 02:13 PM	#3
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	The only thing that requires a re-tune is the 2.80 pulley and CAI. I would get a hand held and do it yourself. A mailorder tune is risky business IMO. __________________

January 18th, 2008, 02:33 PM	#7
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	I would prefer a street tune off a data log to a dyno tune any day. __________________

January 18th, 2008, 02:47 PM	#10
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Anyone who can "tune" your car without actually being there strikes me as risky. I wouldnt get excited over a mail order tune. Get it done the right way the first time. __________________

January 18th, 2008, 03:19 PM	#12
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	^ same here. __________________

January 18th, 2008, 02:18 PM	#4
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	Mail order tunes are good, but when you go to doing major mods like that it would be alot better to go ahead and get it dyno tuned.

January 18th, 2008, 04:03 PM	#13
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mail order tunes are decent, but i can only say that for 05+ cars. Because they are N/A and pretty much everyone does the same things for most tunes. I would stay away from a mail order for a 03-04 cobra or like others said the svt trucks. WHy i say this is because they are s/c and everything relys on a safe tune. One wrong move and youre motor will be at risk. If you go have it tuned at a dyno they have live data and everything will be cool. They can tune conservative,like mail orders do for s/c cars, but a dyno in my area i am good friends with have dyno'd mail order cobras with pulleys and exhaust and every single car has run lean. I say its an expensive car to begin with, dont take chances with mail orders __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

January 18th, 2008, 04:23 PM	#15
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	There have been some issues with the L's not responding to timing changes and detonating and that is probably the case for that motor. Many of the top tuners have seen this issue, but could not figure out a fix. More than half of the email tunes i do are on boosted applications. As long as you are smart about it and watch the AF and listen for detonation email tunes are plenty safe. Dyno tunes can cause problems and blow motors just as easily. I had a friend get tuned at a dyno (not my me) and when he took me for a spin it was detonating like crazy. The terminators are easy to tune too. It you want to squeeze out that last 5-10 hp then do it on the dyno. If you want a good tune that drives like stock, email tunes are the way to go. Email tunes require that the customer is computer literate and at least know a little about their car. If you know nothing about the car, and have trouble loading software in windows, then take it to a dyno and let the pros do it. Email Tunes Explained __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

January 18th, 2008, 05:07 PM	#16
KingChronic Gun Whore 04 Whipple Cobra 10.61@129.96 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,438 iTrader: 0 reviews	get a mail order tune from amazon, with a pulley, theres no problem with it, they've done a million of them. you should get it dyno'd though, and datalog the dyno pull too, to check you A/F, and then send the datalog back to them to look over. __________________ Modded Mustangs Make-A-Wish for Bubba "BWAL09" [url]http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/clubhouse/112652-hey-guys-mm-needs-unite-bubba.html[/url] [QUOTE=Drgnracin72;1870015]please do this country a favor and go play tag football with an oncoming car[/QUOTE]

January 19th, 2008, 08:01 AM	#18
flyingbullitt Newbie 04 COBRA, 01 BULLITT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well it looks like the only way to tune is on a dyno. I found two shops that are around 5hrs away, they are Steeda and Dasilva. Have any of you been to these shops for tuning? Thanks again.

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