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Old August 21st, 2008, 03:34 PM   #61
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I left out the TB and headers. Let's do the numbers. Stock Mach are at 258 rwhp. Do you agree? Pulley, ignition system, and CAI adds up to = 339 rwhp. I have not done a dyno run. I'm going by SCT Livewire. The aluminum drive shaft and flywheel help a lot. Add the cat-back, x-pipes, tb, and headers = 371 rwhp.
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Old August 21st, 2008, 03:52 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by oc192 View Post
I left out the TB and headers. Let's do the numbers. Stock Mach are at 258 rwhp. Do you agree? Pulley, ignition system, and CAI adds up to = 339 rwhp. I have not done a dyno run. I'm going by SCT Livewire. The aluminum drive shaft and flywheel help a lot. Add the cat-back, x-pipes, tb, and headers = 371 rwhp.
So so confused.. Ok first off, I guess maybe on some magical dyno-pack dyno you could hit those numbers, but on a Mustang dyno with SAE corrected numbers, you'll NEVER get close to those numbers with bolt-ons. Machs are in the range of 300-325 with all of those bolt-ons. How in the heck do you figure that a pulley/CAI add 80RWHP??? Hell I think JLT only even claims 14. And I'm sure that's pushing it. I think that you need to head over to the Mach 1 registry and read up on the Machs over there and you'll see.
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Originally Posted by oc192 View Post
I have not done a dyno run. I'm going by SCT Livewire.
BIG Difference trust me. Put it on the dyno and be prepared for lower numbers.

Check out Angus66's mod list. His mach has everything done to it and even some of the hardcore bolt-on stuff like modified intake, and manual brakes and steering. He made 345rwhp. So I doubt you're higher than him.
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Originally Posted by bitemark46 View Post
BIG Difference trust me. Put it on the dyno and be prepared for lower numbers.
Exactly. Don't be TOO disappointed when she gets strapped to the dyno.
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haha. i got my laugh for today. 371 rwhp. lmfao.
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Doc8224 is building a 450 hp N/A mach as we speak.
im not saying it cant be done but with just what that guy said im not sure i would love to see it dont get me wrong but wouldnt it be like 20528935925x easier just to forge and boost?
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im not saying it cant be done but with just what that guy said im not sure i would love to see it dont get me wrong but wouldnt it be like 20528935925x easier just to forge and boost?
the first part of that statement made no sense.

but that the thing. everyone does forge/boost. you never see an all out bad ass N/A new edge. And to some people thats important.
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It looks like DOC will finish his project (reaching 450+ N/A) before I do. Can't wait to see his combination of parts Weems I'm really starting to love the Cobra front end on the Mach 1's. The way your car sits is prefect!!!

Now if I can take a picture of my car less than 64kb I can post my Mach.
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im not saying it cant be done but with just what that guy said im not sure i would love to see it dont get me wrong but wouldnt it be like 20528935925x easier just to forge and boost?
450rwhp N/A has already been done. Nazman made 478rwhp with his BB setup. He posts on SVTP and Corral. Granted peak hp was above 7500rpms but he still made the number. It went 10.7 on motor. 9.8 with a 150 shot. -Mark
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Thanks bite!!!

I would like to make 450+ before heads, cams, valve train, and intake. After doing the stroker and Stage II port/polish you should make 450+. Add the bigger cams and larger valve, lighter and stronger valves and springs you should be close to 500 rwhp. Pro Weld Performance are able to make additional 100 hp with a Stange 6 heads/cams/valve setup.
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Great writeup man a lot of info,and nice comp with the motors,great job.
 
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Thanks for the write-up, as I am starting my own mod list for the mach that I am eventually going to get doing. I have a C&L CAI, MGW short-shifter for main mods right now. Eventually going to go lots more bolt-on's, maybe someday do a SC.
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Short throw shifter. this is a great mod, really reduces missed shifts, and also gets rid of the long throw rubbery feeling of the stocker. MGW is pretty much the way to go, i recommend no other.


um whats a mgw and do u have a website for them i hate my shifter its hard to get into gears and and miss alot
 
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hey guys. i no im changing the subject but whats the difference between the ram air intake and the cold air intake for the machs...?
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hey guys. i no im changing the subject but whats the difference between the ram air intake and the cold air intake for the machs...?
Use the search function, and if you fail to find your answer (which I know you won't, as there's already a few threads about that), make a new thread.
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Hi everyone, 371rwhp with bolt ons? Maybe with an LS1. I had 312rwhp with full bolt ons, did not have a tune though. I now have bolt-ons and comp cams, I have 381rwhp now with a tune, just recently had a solid rear and aluminum driveshaft put in, so may have a tiny bit more. I plan on doing a N/A build.
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ok guys,
im new to this forum and the whole forum deal. i have an 03 mach 1. i recently purchased an C&L cold air intake and the 85 mm mass air flow system. i also purchased magna flows magna packs. i will be making several addtions later. i was wondering if the diablo programmer i purchased was a bad idea? i am looking to make more horses for my pony without going to far from stock. i will be adding a throttle body and ignition up grades later. will i still need a cutom tune or will the programmer do what im looking for? i am a small engine man, so all the programmers and electronics are out side my realm of knowledge. please help if you can?
 
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ok guys,
im new to this forum and the whole forum deal. i have an 03 mach 1. i recently purchased an C&L cold air intake and the 85 mm mass air flow system. i also purchased magna flows magna packs. i will be making several addtions later. i was wondering if the diablo programmer i purchased was a bad idea? i am looking to make more horses for my pony without going to far from stock. i will be adding a throttle body and ignition up grades later. will i still need a cutom tune or will the programmer do what im looking for? i am a small engine man, so all the programmers and electronics are out side my realm of knowledge. please help if you can?
Save your money on the throttle body and ignition, the stock ones on our cars are good enough to support some pretty good numbers. in all honesty your mass air upgrade was a waste as well but you already have it so......The diablo programmer is a decent piece, everyone has their preferences and mine is for the sct xcal3 or the new livewire. the Xcal has a lot more customizable features and is easier to use IMO.
if you really want a modification that will give you the seat of the pants acceleration you're looking for.........gears, plain and simple and the diablo you have will correct your computer for the swap. gears is a matter of choice i will not start a debate but for an n/a car you cant beat 4:30s. yes they're a little steep for someone that does a lot of highway driving but well worth the performance difference. Since you have a solid axle while under your car doing the gear swap get yourself a good set of upper and lower control arms. they are not that expensive and the performance difference between those and stock ones is astounding.
a lot of what you want to do to your car has to do with what you want out of it? figure that out, then do a search on this site and see what you come up with.
a mach1 or 99-01 cobra with a set of long-tubes, mid-pipe, cat-back, cai, 4:30s and a good tune will run in the high 12s all day long (with a good driver and a set of sticky tires) and still have good street manners all while getting decent gas mileage.
keep in mind these are just my opinions, do a search and see what you come up with, good luck and congrats on the mach1.
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