Udp ??

Black02GT · February 14th, 2008, 10:58 PM

what do you guys think about underdrive pullys and whats the best to get?

my friend was worried about me getting them because most of them arent dampened? i have no clue what all that means but he was saying that the un dampened ones arent balanced or something..

lets see some insight on this please. ide like to pick up two or three extra ponys without spending a boatload

Doc8224 · February 14th, 2008, 11:56 PM

Steeda's are the ones to get.

Mach Boy · February 15th, 2008, 12:29 AM

Steeda all the way. And don't put on the alternator pulley because Machs already have an underdrive pulley on for the alternator. And Steeda's pulleys are harmonically dampened and I called Steeda to confirm before I bought them.

Black02GT · February 16th, 2008, 03:23 PM

cool thanks. what kinda hp do they add

Doc8224 · February 16th, 2008, 04:28 PM

single digit to low double digit.

Mach Boy · February 16th, 2008, 04:46 PM

Maybe 5 I'd say. Not a whole lot. Here's what happened to me.

I found out I was running lean so and got a tuner. Prior to tuning the car to make it run normally I was putting down 290hp to the wheels. After the tune and after UDPs I was running 292rwhp. Granted the tune probably took away a lot of that but I still didn't feel much of a difference with the UDPs.

06RedfireGT · February 16th, 2008, 08:30 PM

Steeda or bust.

Black02GT · February 17th, 2008, 05:32 AM

is it really worth it to add udp's for 2hp?

tom2000r · February 17th, 2008, 07:55 AM

I like steeda ud, steeda makes timing adjuster fit in their damper..I set my mine at 13 degrees ..made a big different in performance..

Black02GT · February 17th, 2008, 05:57 PM

eh ill just hold off on them i guess. doesnt really sound worth it until im making like $16 an hour or something !

Mach Boy · February 17th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Black02GT

is it really worth it to add udp's for 2hp?

I don't know how much I gained from the UDPs because I was running lean. By making the mix more rich I took away some HP and then the UDPs added some back. I don't know how much though. And I had 3 different oil leaks at the time so that might be a reason for the low numbers. I may be back at the dyno this week after having put on a PHP spacer and an aluminum driveshaft.

99blkcobra · February 17th, 2008, 10:17 PM

yea a had something about that, i put pullies on my car about 4 days ago they dont make a noticible difference

Black02GT · February 17th, 2008, 11:12 PM

well as soon as income tax comes in, im ordering my dr gas x pipe and xcal3. after that im not really sure what to do.. that will put me , intake, midpipe, exhaust, shifter, tuner, and im trying to stay away from the very expensive stuff like headers ( expensive due to the install) and im not sure that I want to change my gear because im already having trouble with traction with the 3.55 and at 70mph in 5th im at 2 grand and that shit kills me. if i was going to upgrade gears i wouldnt do a 3.73 because I wouldnt see that to be worth it, ide prolly jump to a 4.10 and i think that would be to much so I guess stock will have to do for a long while. the big reason i hate the 2k rpm in 5th is because i drive highway to work and that shit gets annoying, and when i get the midpipe that will only make it that much worse. dont get me wrong i love the sound but eh.. it just gets to ya every day haha. glad i have the work truck, but im so soft hearted i let family drive it all the time and im stuck in the mach 1 . lol

so while im at it. after you read all that above, what do you guys think my next move should be? what im really looking for is well of course horsepower and i know HP dont come cheap, especially since ive already got most of the ' cheap' stuff done. im just not sure where to go from here. I do however know i have traction problems so i may need tires of some sort, but i dont want to lose the factory wheels for a good while. ide say eventually im gona get black wheels of some sort with a polished lip. that i know! and im going to get window tint at some point. prolly 20-25%, i dont think 35% will be enough. im not sure

ill stop yacking and let someone reply!!

HMUSN · February 17th, 2008, 11:13 PM

where ya getting the x3 from?

I offer deals

Black02GT · February 17th, 2008, 11:16 PM

how in the HELL did you read that fast? i hit reply and i hit F5 and your post was already there.. geez-

ya kno.. im not really sure where im going to get it. americanmuscle.com offers it for like 379 or so. and thats 3 tunes + a custom tune for free.

the only thing about custom tune is, i dont want to say well ' ive got intake, mufflers, midpipe, and have the custom tune for that then turn around and add something else and have to order a new tune. that would suck. bc im sure its not cheap

HMUSN · February 17th, 2008, 11:21 PM

I offer 1 tune for $40.00 instead of $75.00

And that includes 2 years of free retunes if you decide to add more mods

HMUSN · February 17th, 2008, 11:22 PM

and the tunes are custom of course based off your data log instead of a generic tune.

Black02GT · February 17th, 2008, 11:28 PM

so what is the price on the tuner itself.

and what do you mean the thing only comes with ONE tune. it doesnt come with the factory 3 tunes?

HMUSN · February 17th, 2008, 11:54 PM

the factory tune is only one turn itself.

the tuner is the same price as the comp.

but they don't offer the support and free retunes I do.

Black02GT · February 18th, 2008, 12:00 AM

oh i thought they came with 3 different tunes.

my buddy has one for his diesel and its got a performance tune, and some gas saver tune, and towing tune, and then a custom tune for his mods

February 14th, 2008, 10:58 PM	#1
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	Udp ?? what do you guys think about underdrive pullys and whats the best to get? my friend was worried about me getting them because most of them arent dampened? i have no clue what all that means but he was saying that the un dampened ones arent balanced or something.. lets see some insight on this please. ide like to pick up two or three extra ponys without spending a boatload __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 14th, 2008, 11:56 PM	#2
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	Steeda's are the ones to get. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

February 15th, 2008, 12:29 AM	#3
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Steeda all the way. And don't put on the alternator pulley because Machs already have an underdrive pulley on for the alternator. And Steeda's pulleys are harmonically dampened and I called Steeda to confirm before I bought them. __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

February 16th, 2008, 03:23 PM	#4
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	cool thanks. what kinda hp do they add __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 16th, 2008, 04:28 PM	#5
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	single digit to low double digit. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

February 16th, 2008, 04:46 PM	#6
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Maybe 5 I'd say. Not a whole lot. Here's what happened to me. I found out I was running lean so and got a tuner. Prior to tuning the car to make it run normally I was putting down 290hp to the wheels. After the tune and after UDPs I was running 292rwhp. Granted the tune probably took away a lot of that but I still didn't feel much of a difference with the UDPs. __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

February 16th, 2008, 08:30 PM	#7
06RedfireGT One Man Wolf Pack 2006 Mustang GT 13ish....maybe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Regulatin On Some OGs Posts: 22,202 iTrader: 2 reviews	Steeda or bust. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

February 17th, 2008, 05:32 AM	#8
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	is it really worth it to add udp's for 2hp? __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 17th, 2008, 07:55 AM	#9
tom2000r Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 753 iTrader: 0 reviews	I like steeda ud, steeda makes timing adjuster fit in their damper..I set my mine at 13 degrees ..made a big different in performance..

February 17th, 2008, 05:57 PM	#10
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	eh ill just hold off on them i guess. doesnt really sound worth it until im making like $16 an hour or something ! __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 17th, 2008, 10:17 PM	#12
99blkcobra Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 cobra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,743 iTrader: 2 reviews	yea a had something about that, i put pullies on my car about 4 days ago they dont make a noticible difference __________________ 1999 Mustang Cobra (rebuilding, someday...) 1996 civic dd [/SIZE] MM Cobra Club #3

February 17th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#13
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	well as soon as income tax comes in, im ordering my dr gas x pipe and xcal3. after that im not really sure what to do.. that will put me , intake, midpipe, exhaust, shifter, tuner, and im trying to stay away from the very expensive stuff like headers ( expensive due to the install) and im not sure that I want to change my gear because im already having trouble with traction with the 3.55 and at 70mph in 5th im at 2 grand and that shit kills me. if i was going to upgrade gears i wouldnt do a 3.73 because I wouldnt see that to be worth it, ide prolly jump to a 4.10 and i think that would be to much so I guess stock will have to do for a long while. the big reason i hate the 2k rpm in 5th is because i drive highway to work and that shit gets annoying, and when i get the midpipe that will only make it that much worse. dont get me wrong i love the sound but eh.. it just gets to ya every day haha. glad i have the work truck, but im so soft hearted i let family drive it all the time and im stuck in the mach 1 . lol so while im at it. after you read all that above, what do you guys think my next move should be? what im really looking for is well of course horsepower and i know HP dont come cheap, especially since ive already got most of the ' cheap' stuff done. im just not sure where to go from here. I do however know i have traction problems so i may need tires of some sort, but i dont want to lose the factory wheels for a good while. ide say eventually im gona get black wheels of some sort with a polished lip. that i know! and im going to get window tint at some point. prolly 20-25%, i dont think 35% will be enough. im not sure ill stop yacking and let someone reply!! __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 17th, 2008, 11:13 PM	#14
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	where ya getting the x3 from? I offer deals __________________

February 17th, 2008, 11:16 PM	#15
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	how in the HELL did you read that fast? i hit reply and i hit F5 and your post was already there.. geez- ya kno.. im not really sure where im going to get it. americanmuscle.com offers it for like 379 or so. and thats 3 tunes + a custom tune for free. the only thing about custom tune is, i dont want to say well ' ive got intake, mufflers, midpipe, and have the custom tune for that then turn around and add something else and have to order a new tune. that would suck. bc im sure its not cheap __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 17th, 2008, 11:21 PM	#16
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	I offer 1 tune for $40.00 instead of $75.00 And that includes 2 years of free retunes if you decide to add more mods __________________

February 17th, 2008, 11:22 PM	#17
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	and the tunes are custom of course based off your data log instead of a generic tune. __________________

February 17th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#18
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	so what is the price on the tuner itself. and what do you mean the thing only comes with ONE tune. it doesnt come with the factory 3 tunes? __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

February 17th, 2008, 11:54 PM	#19
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	the factory tune is only one turn itself. the tuner is the same price as the comp. but they don't offer the support and free retunes I do. __________________

February 18th, 2008, 12:00 AM	#20
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh i thought they came with 3 different tunes. my buddy has one for his diesel and its got a performance tune, and some gas saver tune, and towing tune, and then a custom tune for his mods __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

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