Forced Induction

futureMACH1racer · February 29th, 2008, 11:41 PM

I'm thinking about which route I should take with Forced Induction on my '04 Mach. Since I really want to beat or at least keep up with a decently modded Cobra. I know it's going to have to be something radical. The problem is that I don't know much about superchargers. I have a pretty good understanding of turbos, because of my diesel tuning background. I want a good all around car that can still be comfortable on a long drive. Any help will be much appreciated. Also I know I need forged internals. Would it be worthwhile to just pull the motor and swap for a termi?

KingChronic · March 1st, 2008, 12:29 AM

well you can beat any cobra but 03/04's

also, you can beat a stock 03/04 with pretty much just bolt on's. full exhaust, tune, ported intake, CAI, UDP's, and gears and you can take a 03/04 from a stop. the top top end though it may pull back past.

you could throw a blower on aswell, and at that point you could take a exhaust/intake 03/04, and possibly a pullied one.

Doc8224 · March 1st, 2008, 12:58 AM

I wouldn't swap the motor out. Just get some H-beams and some lower compression forged pistons and you are set. You already have the forged crank, and since we have aluminum blocks you will have that much less weight. Big low end power=whipple or KB Big top end power=Procharger or Turbo. I am builing mine into a high compression n/a monster with some juice to plow the termi boys with. But if you are gonna go boost, I would say slap a nice big whipple or KB on it, then put the shaker back on to hide it all fairly well.

futureMACH1racer · March 3rd, 2008, 01:58 PM

I meant 03/04 Cobras, and I definately am thinking of supercharging the car now. I have heard great things about the Kenne Bell. What size Whipple should I consider? I want to make some respectable numbers and I want the car to kind of be a sleeper. I have read that certain blowers are extremely loud. while that sounds cool and all I don't want to advertise what's under the hood. Once again thank you for the help.

WilltheThrill · March 3rd, 2008, 02:11 PM

i dont think u could do turbo or blower without people noticing whats under the hood. alot of centrifugal blowers have a light whistle even at idle rpm's.

futureMACH1racer · March 3rd, 2008, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill

i dont think u could do turbo or blower without people noticing whats under the hood. alot of centrifugal blowers have a light whistle even at idle rpm's.

Well if that is the case then I guess the car is going to have a whistle. Thanks for the help bro.

Mach Boy · March 3rd, 2008, 03:19 PM

I'd say KB or Procharger. I've seen where Machs respond pretty damn well to them (ProC).

futureMACH1racer · March 3rd, 2008, 04:29 PM

Will a blower kit for a termi bolt right up? I have heard that there is a minor difference in bolt pattern. I feel like a moron for asking all of these questions, but I do appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my questions.

futureMACH1racer · March 3rd, 2008, 04:31 PM

I was just researching the KB 2.8L and the Whipple 3.4L kits. From what I have gathered from you guys and the magazines they seem to be heavily favored and reasonably priced.

1FUN4RD · March 3rd, 2008, 04:33 PM

125 shot of NOS doesnt whine

futureMACH1racer · March 3rd, 2008, 04:39 PM

Yes, but I don't like nitrous and I would never consider it. Thank you though. I had a bad nitrous experience with a Duramax.

WilltheThrill · March 3rd, 2008, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by futureMACH1racer

I feel like a moron for asking all of these questions, but I do appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my questions.

dont worry about it man, thats what this section is all about.

Stangfather · March 3rd, 2008, 06:11 PM

cobra shortblock or build yours with forged stuff, lower the compression a full point and strap on a blower centi or roots doesnt matter..

ive run neck and neck with cobra stock for stock..course im not stock and neither are most cobras nowdays but when they were brand new..

Mach Boy · March 3rd, 2008, 06:59 PM

An Eaton won't get you that much power compared to a KB or Whipple. It will also cost quite a bit to get your car set up for an Eaton when you could spend just a little more for a kit from one of the two that you want.

HBK_2007 · April 20th, 2008, 07:41 PM

umm... id go with tubros myself *points and swervos mach*

Black02GT · April 20th, 2008, 08:52 PM

im thinking turbo on mine. thats just me though

HBK_2007 · April 20th, 2008, 08:58 PM

ya, im going tt when i get the money and my car paid off

Black02GT · April 20th, 2008, 09:08 PM

there's something about a turbo car.. it blows my mind. if you've ever drove a 400+ hp turbo car you'de know what im talking about.

I like the fact that my cars decently fast anyways and then spooling up and getting that boost. damn how awesome.

its not like a little honda motor they are slow and turbos make them fast.. in my case its fast and turbo makes it incredibly fast

plus if you are careful before you race they wont know its turbo unless u let them hear the bov. imagine their face when you shift down and they hear it spool up imediatly and you put bus lengths on them.

HBK_2007 · April 20th, 2008, 09:26 PM

exactly why i want one

ReverendDexter · April 20th, 2008, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Black02GT

plus if you are careful before you race they wont know its turbo unless u let them hear the bov

You could also not get a noisy BOV. Factory BOVs for DSMs and Toyotas are quiet.

February 29th, 2008, 11:41 PM	#1
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	Forced Induction I'm thinking about which route I should take with Forced Induction on my '04 Mach. Since I really want to beat or at least keep up with a decently modded Cobra. I know it's going to have to be something radical. The problem is that I don't know much about superchargers. I have a pretty good understanding of turbos, because of my diesel tuning background. I want a good all around car that can still be comfortable on a long drive. Any help will be much appreciated. Also I know I need forged internals. Would it be worthwhile to just pull the motor and swap for a termi? __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 1st, 2008, 12:29 AM	#2
KingChronic Gun Whore 04 Whipple Cobra 10.61@129.96 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,443 iTrader: 0 reviews	well you can beat any cobra but 03/04's also, you can beat a stock 03/04 with pretty much just bolt on's. full exhaust, tune, ported intake, CAI, UDP's, and gears and you can take a 03/04 from a stop. the top top end though it may pull back past. you could throw a blower on aswell, and at that point you could take a exhaust/intake 03/04, and possibly a pullied one. __________________ Modded Mustangs Make-A-Wish for Bubba "BWAL09" [url]http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/clubhouse/112652-hey-guys-mm-needs-unite-bubba.html[/url] [QUOTE=Drgnracin72;1870015]please do this country a favor and go play tag football with an oncoming car[/QUOTE]

March 1st, 2008, 12:58 AM	#3
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	I wouldn't swap the motor out. Just get some H-beams and some lower compression forged pistons and you are set. You already have the forged crank, and since we have aluminum blocks you will have that much less weight. Big low end power=whipple or KB Big top end power=Procharger or Turbo. I am builing mine into a high compression n/a monster with some juice to plow the termi boys with. But if you are gonna go boost, I would say slap a nice big whipple or KB on it, then put the shaker back on to hide it all fairly well. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

March 3rd, 2008, 01:58 PM	#4
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	I meant 03/04 Cobras, and I definately am thinking of supercharging the car now. I have heard great things about the Kenne Bell. What size Whipple should I consider? I want to make some respectable numbers and I want the car to kind of be a sleeper. I have read that certain blowers are extremely loud. while that sounds cool and all I don't want to advertise what's under the hood. Once again thank you for the help. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 3rd, 2008, 03:19 PM	#7
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'd say KB or Procharger. I've seen where Machs respond pretty damn well to them (ProC). __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

March 3rd, 2008, 04:29 PM	#8
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	Will a blower kit for a termi bolt right up? I have heard that there is a minor difference in bolt pattern. I feel like a moron for asking all of these questions, but I do appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my questions. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 3rd, 2008, 04:31 PM	#9
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was just researching the KB 2.8L and the Whipple 3.4L kits. From what I have gathered from you guys and the magazines they seem to be heavily favored and reasonably priced. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 3rd, 2008, 04:33 PM	#10
1FUN4RD MMs Ford Racing Nut Swinger 2007 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CENTRAL IOWA Posts: 4,360 iTrader: 3 reviews	125 shot of NOS doesnt whine __________________ www.1fun4rd.blogspot.com

March 3rd, 2008, 04:39 PM	#11
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yes, but I don't like nitrous and I would never consider it. Thank you though. I had a bad nitrous experience with a Duramax. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 3rd, 2008, 06:11 PM	#13
Stangfather Newbie 2004 Mach 1 11.52 @ 121 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 reviews	cobra shortblock or build yours with forged stuff, lower the compression a full point and strap on a blower centi or roots doesnt matter.. ive run neck and neck with cobra stock for stock..course im not stock and neither are most cobras nowdays but when they were brand new.. __________________ Dick thick as a baton, the illest motherfucker from here to Vietnam

March 3rd, 2008, 06:59 PM	#14
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	An Eaton won't get you that much power compared to a KB or Whipple. It will also cost quite a bit to get your car set up for an Eaton when you could spend just a little more for a kit from one of the two that you want. __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

April 20th, 2008, 07:41 PM	#15
HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 2009 Ford Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,676 iTrader: 0 reviews	umm... id go with tubros myself points and swervos mach

April 20th, 2008, 08:52 PM	#16
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	im thinking turbo on mine. thats just me though __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

April 20th, 2008, 08:58 PM	#17
HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 2009 Ford Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,676 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya, im going tt when i get the money and my car paid off

April 20th, 2008, 09:08 PM	#18
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	there's something about a turbo car.. it blows my mind. if you've ever drove a 400+ hp turbo car you'de know what im talking about. I like the fact that my cars decently fast anyways and then spooling up and getting that boost. damn how awesome. its not like a little honda motor they are slow and turbos make them fast.. in my case its fast and turbo makes it incredibly fast plus if you are careful before you race they wont know its turbo unless u let them hear the bov. imagine their face when you shift down and they hear it spool up imediatly and you put bus lengths on them. __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

April 20th, 2008, 09:26 PM	#19
HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 2009 Ford Mustang GT next year Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,676 iTrader: 0 reviews	exactly why i want one

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