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Old April 9th, 2008, 11:57 PM   #1
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Second Gear Grind?


Ok so i was out driving my mach ok and i come up 2 a light and shift from 3rd too 2nd and it wont go in so i push the clutch all the way in and it finally clunks in and i was like thats weird... so i come of the light try 2 shift into 2nd @ 2500 and it grinds then goes in and it did it again and agian so i shifted into 3rd the rest of the night on my way home and i tryed it and if you hold the clutch all the way in and give it 2-5 seconds it will go in perfectly but if you shift it regular it grinds then goes in???? any sugestions maybe a servo and the wierd thing is it will stay in second and not pop out like normal servo's when they go bad ?????? HELP...
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Old April 9th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #2
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i will catch up with the post 2morro jus give me your input i got 2 be at work by 6 like every morning so i'll catch up with it later thanks
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bump so i can get feedback b4 i go 2 bed
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Old April 10th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #4
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It's been 6 minutes since your last post. It's not going to move off the first page for the next few days.
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Probably synchro. Holding the clutch in allows the input shaft to slow down which is why it is easier to get it in if you hold the clutch.
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synchro, same thing happend to me..
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synocros. Same thing happened to me. I had to replace it in mine it grinde and broke during a race.
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damn i knew it. it was weird like i wusnt even roomping it and it jus grinded and then now it jus grinds all the time how much are they arnt they like 60-80 dollars from ford and like 100-150 for a carbon fiber racing sencro
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should i drive with like that or am i gonna have 2 drive the danger ranger friday and the weekend
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before you call it quits maybe i can help, this isnt a t56 correct?

i believe you are rocking a 5 speed if so, and the problems your stating i would say that there is a possibility your hydraulic system for your clutch has a problem and or has had a problem this is why the tranny is reacting the way it is,

try bleeding your clutch and making sure full disengagement is achieved when you put the pedal to the floor, if you check that is working perfectly try changing your tranny fluid to gm synchromesh,

i have a 98 ranger and the same thing was happening to me until i changed the fluid and wha laa problem solved,

also let me guess the hotter the trans gets or the longer you drive the worse it does it right?

probably fluid deterioration.

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Poor camaro guy.


Mustangs have cable clutches.
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Which can be part of the issue - if the cable is stretched, the stock quadrant may not be disengaging the clutch completely.

I honestly think the issue is synchros, but I figured I'd toss that into the fray.
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Originally Posted by Doc8224 View Post
Poor camaro guy.


Mustangs have cable clutches.

damnit, well at least 95% of that post was helpful.
give me some time, there is only so much i can know about the enemy lol
 
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talk to me lol..
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Originally Posted by camarojunky74 View Post
damnit, well at least 95% of that post was helpful.
give me some time, there is only so much i can know about the enemy lol
Tell me about it. I just learned the other day that the Camaros only have one cam. Damn you all and your cheap parts for big gains.
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Tell me about it. I just learned the other day that the Camaros only have one cam. Damn you all and your cheap parts for big gains.

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haha this is funny check my fluid system haha man i seriously lol'd but yeah do you guys think it might help if i adjusted my clutch but i still think its a sencro goin
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Tell me about it. I just learned the other day that the Camaros only have one cam. Damn you all and your cheap parts for big gains.

lol, well some call it old school, but i say if it aint broke dont fix it, kinda like when ford went modular in i think 96, you can pretty much kiss all n/a power goodbye, stock that is, and i know the mach 1's are damn fast for being n/a and only 4.6 but that motor can breathe.

but yes, a 16v pushrod motor is what all ls motors are based off of, with slight differences between years and models as far as casting #'s but everything is intechangeable, so if you find a zo6 vette guy going for bigger power, you can buy his stock heads, mill them port them, throw in a small cam and your sitting at anywheres to 400 hp all the way into the 5's depending on what size cam and how much work you pour into the heads,i know my buddy has ported ls7 heads on his ls2, and they flow 385cfm at 600 lift, you cant find that shit even from afr, he's got a 10 sec pig, aka gto,
 
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check 4th gear..see if it grinds at all..synchros work in groups 1st,3rd,5th and then 2nd,4th, and Reverse..to check your clutch put the e-brake up put it in first gear, then slowly let the clutch out and it should want to stall right around half way up..
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ok ill try that 4 shure but the only gear that grinds is 2nd
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