Tranny swap update

Doc8224 · May 7th, 2008, 06:18 AM

Well we got it all buttoned up monday afternoon and took it out for a test drive. About 2 miles down the road it started making a funny knock so we brought it back. Drove it home that nite and it didn't wanna stay running and the noise got worse. Me a sweet2k started looking it over today and found smoke coming from both PCV's and what can only be a wasted motor.

The noise is undoubtedly a rod knocking from wasted rod bearing or 2. don't know what the hell caused it, I run royal purple so the synthetic should keep it lubed up and protected. We have a couple ideas of what did it just not exactly shure. Maybe when the auto locked it, it caused so much vibration and such a big jerk that it messed up the oil pump or even messed up the bearings. We will know more when we tear it down. Having said that, I guess the final stage of Project N/A 4v is beginning a little sooner than hoped but what can you do? I will keep you guys updated on the build and post up videos and pics as we go along. This is gonna happen quickly as I miss my car and I am ready to hit the streets with it.

acmillr · May 7th, 2008, 08:18 AM

That shit sucks. Well, is the tranny operating properly??

BWAL · May 7th, 2008, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

Well we got it all buttoned up monday afternoon and took it out for a test drive. About 2 miles down the road it started making a funny knock so we brought it back. Drove it home that nite and it didn't wanna stay running and the noise got worse. Me a sweet2k started looking it over today and found smoke coming from both PCV's and what can only be a wasted motor. The noise is undoubtedly a rod knocking from wasted rod bearing or 2. don't know what the hell caused it, I run royal purple so the synthetic should keep it lubed up and protected. We have a couple ideas of what did it just not exactly shure. Maybe when the auto locked it, it caused so much vibration and such a big jerk that it messed up the oil pump or even messed up the bearings. We will know more when we tear it down. Having said that, I guess the final stage of Project N/A 4v is beginning a little sooner than hoped but what can you do? I will keep you guys updated on the build and post up videos and pics as we go along. This is gonna happen quickly as I miss my car and I am ready to hit the streets with it.

see that's what sucks.. you'll have a nice mod list planned out with big goals, and you'll even have the money saved up for everything, then your car decides to be a douche and throws a curveball like this at you.

good luck man, hope you get it all worked out.

tom2000r · May 7th, 2008, 09:17 AM

oh shit!

tom2000r · May 7th, 2008, 09:19 AM

hey doc,did that come factory with manley rods or was that just the cobras

Doc8224 · May 7th, 2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by tom2000r

hey doc,did that come factory with manley rods or was that just the cobras

No the automatic Mach 1's have the same bottom end as the 2v's just with higher compression pistons.

Doc8224 · May 7th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

That shit sucks. Well, is the tranny operating properly??

Yea it seems too. Only drove it a couple miles so I don't know excatly. I did find out that you have to find a stock shifter for a 3650 (which I don't have) to get the snap on pivot bushing off the the shifter ball. Ford doesn't sell it by its self and it is different than the pivot cup thats used in the t-45. So I gotta get that.

weems · May 7th, 2008, 04:38 PM

Well that sucks man. Keep us updated. Make a build thread when you get started.

acmillr · May 7th, 2008, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

Yea it seems too. Only drove it a couple miles so I don't know excatly. I did find out that you have to find a stock shifter for a 3650 (which I don't have) to get the snap on pivot bushing off the the shifter ball. Ford doesn't sell it by its self and it is different than the pivot cup thats used in the t-45. So I gotta get that.

I'll mail you one in the morning if I have it. I will look when I get home and see.

Doc8224 · May 7th, 2008, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

I'll mail you one in the morning if I have it. I will look when I get home and see.

That would be great. I can't find a local salvage yard with a 3650 car.

acmillr · May 7th, 2008, 10:35 PM

Sorry, man. The only one I have is missing the part. I must have left on that POS Pro 5.0.

Doc8224 · May 7th, 2008, 11:22 PM

ahhh ok. well I can probably hunt one down or get a UPR piece or something. I have a few weeks of down time while we get everthing in for the build so I will see what I can find.

droppedbass87 · May 7th, 2008, 11:28 PM

hey doc go ahead and forge it man..just get some forged pistons and rods and port and polish those heads..might as well with it all ripped down..

Doc8224 · May 7th, 2008, 11:34 PM

Oh its getting the full treatment thats for sure, race bearings, MMR oil pump H-beams, forged flat tops, .020 over. The works.

droppedbass87 · May 7th, 2008, 11:58 PM

thats what im talking about man..hey can you tell mike to text me tonight man..i lost his number since getting a new number..tell em i said hey to haha..

May 7th, 2008, 06:18 AM	#21
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well we got it all buttoned up monday afternoon and took it out for a test drive. About 2 miles down the road it started making a funny knock so we brought it back. Drove it home that nite and it didn't wanna stay running and the noise got worse. Me a sweet2k started looking it over today and found smoke coming from both PCV's and what can only be a wasted motor. The noise is undoubtedly a rod knocking from wasted rod bearing or 2. don't know what the hell caused it, I run royal purple so the synthetic should keep it lubed up and protected. We have a couple ideas of what did it just not exactly shure. Maybe when the auto locked it, it caused so much vibration and such a big jerk that it messed up the oil pump or even messed up the bearings. We will know more when we tear it down. Having said that, I guess the final stage of Project N/A 4v is beginning a little sooner than hoped but what can you do? I will keep you guys updated on the build and post up videos and pics as we go along. This is gonna happen quickly as I miss my car and I am ready to hit the streets with it. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

May 7th, 2008, 08:18 AM	#22
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	That shit sucks. Well, is the tranny operating properly?? __________________

May 7th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#31
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	Sorry, man. The only one I have is missing the part. I must have left on that POS Pro 5.0. __________________

May 7th, 2008, 11:22 PM	#32
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	ahhh ok. well I can probably hunt one down or get a UPR piece or something. I have a few weeks of down time while we get everthing in for the build so I will see what I can find. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

May 7th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#33
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey doc go ahead and forge it man..just get some forged pistons and rods and port and polish those heads..might as well with it all ripped down.. __________________ fraziers transmission service..

May 7th, 2008, 09:17 AM	#24
tom2000r Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 753 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh shit!

May 7th, 2008, 09:19 AM	#25
tom2000r Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 753 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey doc,did that come factory with manley rods or was that just the cobras

May 7th, 2008, 04:38 PM	#28
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,054 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well that sucks man. Keep us updated. Make a build thread when you get started.

May 7th, 2008, 11:34 PM	#34
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	Oh its getting the full treatment thats for sure, race bearings, MMR oil pump H-beams, forged flat tops, .020 over. The works. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

May 7th, 2008, 11:58 PM	#35
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats what im talking about man..hey can you tell mike to text me tonight man..i lost his number since getting a new number..tell em i said hey to haha.. __________________ fraziers transmission service..

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