Start up

chris1 · July 12th, 2008, 09:54 PM

I will try to simplify or make this easy for one to diagnose.

As the title states, I took the Mach out for a spin (50miles or so). Came home and parked it. I Noticed it needed a wash, so i went in and tried to start the car, but it hesitated with the start up or as if there wasn't enough spark to start the car and eventually died. I tried it again, but this time i gave it some gas and "what do you know" it started. This is new to me. The plugs were recently changed a week ago. Could this be something else that needs my immediate attention? Keep in mind that i have no tune with several mods that require one....lol (My fault) Could that be the answer? Any information is greatly appreciated at this moment

Doc8224 · July 12th, 2008, 10:16 PM

what did the plugs look like? is the car running too rich?

chris1 · July 12th, 2008, 10:34 PM

The tip of the plugs had a minor rust color but nothing too serious. It could've been water that is no longer there. The plugs were black and gray. Like i said i have a JLT ram air, Bassani high flow X magnaflow weld ins and pulleys and have no tune. Could that be it?

Doc8224 · July 13th, 2008, 07:44 AM

That stuff doesn't realy require a tune. It would be helpful though. I have seen more stuff on a car with no tune and not have problems like that. when you are "givin it gas'' you are just opening the throttle blade, you aren't actualy adding more gas like in the carburated cars.

chris1 · July 13th, 2008, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

That stuff doesn't realy require a tune. It would be helpful though. I have seen more stuff on a car with no tune and not have problems like that. when you are "givin it gas'' you are just opening the throttle blade, you aren't actualy adding more gas like in the carburated cars.

so what could this be doc?

Doc8224 · July 13th, 2008, 10:56 PM

How long has it been since you changed the fuel filter?

ECUSVT31 · July 14th, 2008, 12:25 AM

you could try different spark plugs mayb, if this just happened and the spark plugs were changed not long ago either it could be that. same thing happened with my jet ski today ( i know completely different so i dont want to here how its not teh same) but i changed teh spark plugs and it started just fine.

ECUSVT31 · July 14th, 2008, 12:26 AM

just an idea...

chris1 · July 14th, 2008, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

How long has it been since you changed the fuel filter?

Changed it about 8k ago. Could it be that it needs replacement after cleaning the fuel injectors with Lucas gas treatment? I'm more confused than a child lost at chuckee cheese...lol The car runs great and it's a "stay at home" vehicle.

Mustang RacR94 · July 14th, 2008, 09:14 PM

did you listen for the fuel pump? you can always try the old trick of taking off the gas cap and sticking a pen to open the lid and having someone turn the key, even if it turns on, check the fuel pressure maybe its going or getting to hot etc. not sure if thats it but its something to try.

Doc8224 · July 15th, 2008, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by chris1

Changed it about 8k ago. Could it be that it needs replacement after cleaning the fuel injectors with Lucas gas treatment? I'm more confused than a child lost at chuckee cheese...lol The car runs great and it's a "stay at home" vehicle.

Its possible the lucas got all the gunk out of the tank to move on down the line to the filter. Its worth a shot and its a cheap part. Try that and if it doesn't fix it then you will have to do a little more trouble shooting. But if it fixes it you haven't wasted a bunch of time.

Chris'schick · July 15th, 2008, 08:07 AM

-97cobra

you might also want to check to see if you pushed the coil on good enough. make sure one isnt loose.

chris1 · July 15th, 2008, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Chris'schick

-97cobra

you might also want to check to see if you pushed the coil on good enough. make sure one isnt loose.

Checked.

chris1 · July 15th, 2008, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

Its possible the lucas got all the gunk out of the tank to move on down the line to the filter. Its worth a shot and its a cheap part. Try that and if it doesn't fix it then you will have to do a little more trouble shooting. But if it fixes it you haven't wasted a bunch of time.

Thnx

Mustang RacR94 · July 15th, 2008, 10:25 AM

I've heard of Lucas gunking filters up. If you have the tool check fit pressure before buying one

Black02GT · July 15th, 2008, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by chris1

Changed it about 8k ago. Could it be that it needs replacement after cleaning the fuel injectors with Lucas gas treatment? I'm more confused than a child lost at chuckee cheese...lol The car runs great and it's a "stay at home" vehicle.

lmfao @ child lost at chuckee cheese bwahahaha

July 12th, 2008, 09:54 PM	#1
chris1 Enthusiast 2003 Ford Mach Traveling at the speed of a photon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 792	Start up I will try to simplify or make this easy for one to diagnose. As the title states, I took the Mach out for a spin (50miles or so). Came home and parked it. I Noticed it needed a wash, so i went in and tried to start the car, but it hesitated with the start up or as if there wasn't enough spark to start the car and eventually died. I tried it again, but this time i gave it some gas and "what do you know" it started. This is new to me. The plugs were recently changed a week ago. Could this be something else that needs my immediate attention? Keep in mind that i have no tune with several mods that require one....lol (My fault) Could that be the answer? Any information is greatly appreciated at this moment __________________ Under my Umbrella! Studies show that 99.9% of the kids on MM ask the same questions over and over again about performance parts yet do nothing after the advice is given because they're still in Highschool and suffer from no money syndrome.

July 12th, 2008, 10:34 PM	#3
chris1 Enthusiast 2003 Ford Mach Traveling at the speed of a photon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 792	The tip of the plugs had a minor rust color but nothing too serious. It could've been water that is no longer there. The plugs were black and gray. Like i said i have a JLT ram air, Bassani high flow X magnaflow weld ins and pulleys and have no tune. Could that be it? __________________ Under my Umbrella! Studies show that 99.9% of the kids on MM ask the same questions over and over again about performance parts yet do nothing after the advice is given because they're still in Highschool and suffer from no money syndrome.

July 14th, 2008, 12:25 AM	#7
ECUSVT31 Enthusiast 1999 SVT Cobra 14.36@98.46 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 672	you could try different spark plugs mayb, if this just happened and the spark plugs were changed not long ago either it could be that. same thing happened with my jet ski today ( i know completely different so i dont want to here how its not teh same) but i changed teh spark plugs and it started just fine. __________________

July 14th, 2008, 12:26 AM	#8
ECUSVT31 Enthusiast 1999 SVT Cobra 14.36@98.46 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 672	just an idea... __________________

July 14th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#10
Mustang RacR94 Hardcore Enthusiast 03 mach 1 13.2@109 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mooretownship,PA kinda close to allentown Posts: 2,414	did you listen for the fuel pump? you can always try the old trick of taking off the gas cap and sticking a pen to open the lid and having someone turn the key, even if it turns on, check the fuel pressure maybe its going or getting to hot etc. not sure if thats it but its something to try. __________________ 2003 Mach 1, 5 speed MM MACH 1 CREW www.myspace.com/mustangracr94

July 15th, 2008, 08:07 AM	#12
Chris'schick Regular Mtn. Bike 8.14@198.98MPH LOL Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WYOMING Posts: 57	-97cobra you might also want to check to see if you pushed the coil on good enough. make sure one isnt loose.

July 15th, 2008, 10:25 AM	#15
Mustang RacR94 Hardcore Enthusiast 03 mach 1 13.2@109 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mooretownship,PA kinda close to allentown Posts: 2,414	I've heard of Lucas gunking filters up. If you have the tool check fit pressure before buying one __________________ 2003 Mach 1, 5 speed MM MACH 1 CREW www.myspace.com/mustangracr94

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