are the cams worth the price?

tcasoccer13 · October 3rd, 2008, 01:32 PM

I have an 04 mach 1. I saw that cams cost an arm and a leg. what kind of power gain will i be looking at? and any preference on brands

acidtonic · October 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM

Depending on the cam 30rwhp.

If you go real aggressive your gas mileage will really suffer.

Cams usually are done to round out your build for good gains. The more you have done the more you stand to gain from them.

tcasoccer13 · October 3rd, 2008, 02:59 PM

gotcha... hmmm how bad will it affect my mpg?

weems · October 3rd, 2008, 04:09 PM

For the money for cams, just go with a blower. There is just no logical choice to go the other route unless you just want that 'NA Power' and want to spray a big shot of juice.

tcasoccer13 · October 3rd, 2008, 04:28 PM

i just wanted to stay NA for now. and want the sound. i'll get a blower after college. but i am just weighing my options right now. but thatnks for the input

Mustang RacR94 · October 3rd, 2008, 06:06 PM

when you swap out cams, if you want that big cam sound, you will have to change valve springs etc, theres alot more hidden fee's then just the cams, I think it comes out to around 1600K to do cams, because of other nescerry upgrades

tcasoccer13 · October 3rd, 2008, 06:10 PM

yeh i figured there would be some extra junk. but i really do want that big cam sound. I love it! will this affect the reliability of the car?

Doc8224 · October 3rd, 2008, 11:41 PM

The "big cam sound" will also cause you to have to change cams for the blower. You rough idle cams are generaly N/A cams and are not good for boosted cars. If you want little bit rougher idle with some decent gains and still have a great cam for boost then go with the GT supercar cams. They are less than $500 and you don't need new valve springs. It is just a drop in setup.

acidtonic · October 4th, 2008, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

The "big cam sound" will also cause you to have to change cams for the blower. You rough idle cams are generaly N/A cams and are not good for boosted cars. If you want little bit rougher idle with some decent gains and still have a great cam for boost then go with the GT supercar cams. They are less than $500 and you don't need new valve springs. It is just a drop in setup.

Learn something new everyday. They do make some blower cams that sound pretty choppy though right?

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2008, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by acidtonic

Learn something new everyday. They do make some blower cams that sound pretty choppy though right?

Yea but they are usualy very aggressive like stage 3+'s. the lobe seperation is tight on the N/A cams thats what the roughness is and thats not what you want with a blower cam. But like I said the GT cams are a good mid level cam and they are an upgrade to the stock setup. Alot higher lift and good profile.

Diabeetus · October 4th, 2008, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by tcasoccer13

i just wanted to stay NA for now. and want the sound. i'll get a blower after college. but i am just weighing my options right now. but thatnks for the input

Just makin sure, but you do realize that even with big cams in a modular engine like yours, its not gonna have that lope like a big cammed pushrod motor right? Not tryin to be a smartass, I just wouldnt want you to spend a load of money on cams and not have that lopey idle.

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2008, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Diabeetus

Just makin sure, but you do realize that even with big cams in a modular engine like yours, its not gonna have that lope like a big cammed pushrod motor right? Not tryin to be a smartass, I just wouldnt want you to spend a load of money on cams and not have that lopey idle.

why wouldn't it? the same concepts apply, you just have to have the right cams. Here is proof to back it up.

YouTube - 2004 Cobra - Comp Cams, Full Exhaust

YouTube - Crower cams Mustang

YouTube - 03 mach 1 w/ hp custom cams and o/r h...

and here is mine with the GT cams. Not a huge lumpy idle but it rougher than stock

YouTube - Mach 1 Idle

MaverickGT · October 4th, 2008, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

why wouldn't it? the same concepts apply, you just have to have the right cams. Here is proof to back it up.

YouTube - 2004 Cobra - Comp Cams, Full Exhaust

YouTube - Crower cams Mustang

YouTube - 03 mach 1 w/ hp custom cams and o/r h pipe

and here is mine with the GT cams. Not a huge lumpy idle but it rougher than stock
YouTube - Mach 1 Idle

Nice sounds nice BUT!!!......This is loppy BABY!!!! Nutin but the 5.0L's

YouTube - 5.0 Mustang Idle

YEAH BAby!!!

DOn

Mach Boy · October 4th, 2008, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

why wouldn't it? the same concepts apply, you just have to have the right cams. Here is proof to back it up.

YouTube - 2004 Cobra - Comp Cams, Full Exhaust

YouTube - Crower cams Mustang

YouTube - 03 mach 1 w/ hp custom cams and o/r h pipe

and here is mine with the GT cams. Not a huge lumpy idle but it rougher than stock
YouTube - Mach 1 Idle

OMG IT LIVES!!!

Diabeetus · October 4th, 2008, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

why wouldn't it? the same concepts apply, you just have to have the right cams. Here is proof to back it up.

YouTube - 2004 Cobra - Comp Cams, Full Exhaust

YouTube - Crower cams Mustang

YouTube - 03 mach 1 w/ hp custom cams and o/r h pipe

and here is mine with the GT cams. Not a huge lumpy idle but it rougher than stock
YouTube - Mach 1 Idle

Thats one of the choppiest sounding mod motors Ive hear yet, but it still isnt like my big roller cam 94 Gt drag car. But it is a wicked sounding Cobra.

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Diabeetus

Thats one of the choppiest sounding mod motors Ive hear yet, but it still isnt like my big roller cam 94 Gt drag car. But it is a wicked sounding Cobra.

Thats because of cam selection. you can get that sound out of a modular engine it just usualy isn't the best way to make power. you can make just about any car sound rough like that with the right cam selection.

Doc8224 · October 4th, 2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mach Boy

OMG IT LIVES!!!

yea, didn't you see the other topic?

tcasoccer13 · October 6th, 2008, 01:01 AM

i dont want it crazy choppy but i do want it to sound good. so when i crank it up and everyone goes dang what cam do you have in there?

Doc8224 · October 6th, 2008, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by tcasoccer13

i dont want it crazy choppy but i do want it to sound good. so when i crank it up and everyone goes dang what cam do you have in there?

If you are gonna go boost later then refer to my other post about boost cams not being the choppy cams. If you have money to burn then buy N/A cams now and boost cams later. Crower stage 2's Hitech stage 2's, and sean hyland cams will be choppy but suck for boost. So just keep that in mind.

October 3rd, 2008, 01:32 PM	#1
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 192	are the cams worth the price? I have an 04 mach 1. I saw that cams cost an arm and a leg. what kind of power gain will i be looking at? and any preference on brands

October 3rd, 2008, 04:09 PM	#4
weems Well Hellerrr.. 2001 Bullitt 12.81@110 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 5,817	For the money for cams, just go with a blower. There is just no logical choice to go the other route unless you just want that 'NA Power' and want to spray a big shot of juice. __________________

October 3rd, 2008, 06:06 PM	#6
Mustang RacR94 Hardcore Enthusiast 03 mach 1 13.2@109 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mooretownship,PA kinda close to allentown Posts: 2,987	when you swap out cams, if you want that big cam sound, you will have to change valve springs etc, theres alot more hidden fee's then just the cams, I think it comes out to around 1600K to do cams, because of other nescerry upgrades __________________ 2003 Mach 1, 5 speed "Dont worry ive locked horns with this fucker before"- TasteMyThunder "More like my gameplay will break there will"-TasteMyThunder www.myspace.com/mustangracr94

October 3rd, 2008, 11:41 PM	#8
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ft. Hood,TX Posts: 3,257	The "big cam sound" will also cause you to have to change cams for the blower. You rough idle cams are generaly N/A cams and are not good for boosted cars. If you want little bit rougher idle with some decent gains and still have a great cam for boost then go with the GT supercar cams. They are less than $500 and you don't need new valve springs. It is just a drop in setup. __________________ U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

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October 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM	#2
acidtonic Enthusiast 97 Cobra Join Date: May 2008 Location: Royal Oak Michigan Posts: 880	Depending on the cam 30rwhp. If you go real aggressive your gas mileage will really suffer. Cams usually are done to round out your build for good gains. The more you have done the more you stand to gain from them.

October 3rd, 2008, 02:59 PM	#3
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 192	gotcha... hmmm how bad will it affect my mpg?

October 3rd, 2008, 04:28 PM	#5
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 192	i just wanted to stay NA for now. and want the sound. i'll get a blower after college. but i am just weighing my options right now. but thatnks for the input

October 3rd, 2008, 06:10 PM	#7
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 192	yeh i figured there would be some extra junk. but i really do want that big cam sound. I love it! will this affect the reliability of the car?

October 6th, 2008, 01:01 AM	#18
tcasoccer13 Regular 1996 mustang GT/Mach 1 315rwhp 320rwtq Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 192	i dont want it crazy choppy but i do want it to sound good. so when i crank it up and everyone goes dang what cam do you have in there?

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