Question about a blower setup

futureMACH1racer · October 11th, 2008, 10:38 PM

So as most of you know I'm in the process of building my engine. So here's a question that I have. If I were to build my car for a blower, and not install the blower, would it hurt the car to drive it without the blower?

Doc8224 · October 11th, 2008, 10:42 PM

No. It all comes down to how much boost you are gonna push and what CR you choose. that will determine how much N/A power you have. For example if you wanna go big boost and you go with like 9-9.5:1 CR for a good boost setup then you will not have as much N/A power. Likewise if you choose cams that are specificly boost cams then you will not be as powerful N/A.

futureMACH1racer · October 11th, 2008, 10:49 PM

That is what I figured. I have been considering a FI setup, with GT cams, and lower compression. With a 2.3 Whipple pushing around 15psi

Doc8224 · October 11th, 2008, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by futureMACH1racer

That is what I figured. I have been considering a FI setup, with GT cams, and lower compression. With a 2.3 Whipple pushing around 15psi

mmmm tasty. That will be good with those hogged out heads

00vabchgt · October 11th, 2008, 11:00 PM

i'm actually in the process of doing that right now. i wiped a rod bearing last year, and when i sourced parts, i went with 17cc dish pistons (same as stock for GT's). along with the overbore (0.020"), my compression sits at about 9.7:1. i'm setting it up for a centri blower, but i also didn't want the car to be a dog while still n/a. as for cams, i plan on going with blower cams because i am going FI and i don't feel like doing cams twice...

futureMACH1racer · October 11th, 2008, 11:23 PM

It's just a thought, I haven't made my mind up yet. I like FI because I can make more power.

but otherwise I love N/A cars. I want my cake and to eat it too. I want a nasty N/A cam wth about 600+ rwhp. I was thinking about a nitrous setup.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 11th, 2008, 11:41 PM

you can, you just have to be smart on what you put in the motor. you can make a hard running n/a motor, but if you put stuff together that just dont work together then you will regret it.

Doc8224 · October 11th, 2008, 11:41 PM

10:1 with a good boost cam and hogged out heads, then you have decent N/A power and you can run a shit ton of spray. Then if you ever go FI you will still be kinda low enough (right on the edge if you ask me) to run a decent amount of boost. Just another thought to mull around in that already packed head. LOL

SWEET2KSTANG · October 11th, 2008, 11:44 PM

just be careful on what blower cam you install. you install a positive displaccement blower cam in it, then you will hold yourself back a little on top end hp. a centri blower cam will work just fine with juice, and not hold you back as much n/a.

futureMACH1racer · October 12th, 2008, 01:09 AM

Yeah, I hear ya.

Seriously I haven't lsept in a week. This car has kept me up everynight, just thinking about what to do.

Doc8224 · October 12th, 2008, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by futureMACH1racer

Yeah, I hear ya.

Seriously I haven't lsept in a week. This car has kept me up everynight, just thinking about what to do.

welcome to the club. LOL I lost sleep for the past 6 months working on my build

SWEET2KSTANG · October 12th, 2008, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

welcome to the club. LOL I lost sleep for the past 6 months working on my build

and i went nuts trying to help

futureMACH1racer · October 12th, 2008, 01:17 AM

I've built cars before with my dad, but it was never this stressful.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 12th, 2008, 01:20 AM

i go thru it queit often it seems. every motor i build keeps me on my toes, but thats just the type of person i am.

Doc8224 · October 12th, 2008, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by futureMACH1racer

I've built cars before with my dad, but it was never this stressful.

not to worry you but wait til you start the modular crap. LOL

futureMACH1racer · October 12th, 2008, 01:20 AM

It was easy, I had the lightning and we did boltons, ported blower, pulley and tune. When I had the LS1, it was easy enough too, we stroked it, and added a 175shot of juice. I had the Duramax it was even easier, just add a bigger turbo and injectors.

With this car there are a ton options. All which are great.

Doc8224 · October 12th, 2008, 01:22 AM

my biggest sleep loss........... spiral locks and the fuckin thrust washer. LMAO

futureMACH1racer · October 12th, 2008, 01:24 AM

Him and I are a bit scared of them, so we're letting Modular Performance assemble the engine. Walsh Motorsports is doing the tuning, blower (if I go FI), and a few ither tweaks.

SWEET2KSTANG · October 12th, 2008, 01:25 AM

wuss

futureMACH1racer · October 12th, 2008, 01:27 AM

I'll tackle any FE Ford engine, LS engine or Mopar, but keep me away form modulars. I learned my lesson a while back. I had a 97 F-150 with a 4.6 that I played with and messed up. I had to have PHP go in there and fix it and install a Pro Charger.

October 11th, 2008, 10:38 PM	#1
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	Question about a blower setup So as most of you know I'm in the process of building my engine. So here's a question that I have. If I were to build my car for a blower, and not install the blower, would it hurt the car to drive it without the blower? __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

October 11th, 2008, 10:42 PM	#2
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	No. It all comes down to how much boost you are gonna push and what CR you choose. that will determine how much N/A power you have. For example if you wanna go big boost and you go with like 9-9.5:1 CR for a good boost setup then you will not have as much N/A power. Likewise if you choose cams that are specificly boost cams then you will not be as powerful N/A. __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way Last edited by Doc8224; October 11th, 2008 at 10:46 PM.

October 11th, 2008, 10:49 PM	#3
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	That is what I figured. I have been considering a FI setup, with GT cams, and lower compression. With a 2.3 Whipple pushing around 15psi __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

October 11th, 2008, 11:23 PM	#6
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	It's just a thought, I haven't made my mind up yet. I like FI because I can make more power. but otherwise I love N/A cars. I want my cake and to eat it too. I want a nasty N/A cam wth about 600+ rwhp. I was thinking about a nitrous setup. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

October 11th, 2008, 11:41 PM	#7
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	you can, you just have to be smart on what you put in the motor. you can make a hard running n/a motor, but if you put stuff together that just dont work together then you will regret it. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

October 11th, 2008, 11:44 PM	#9
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	just be careful on what blower cam you install. you install a positive displaccement blower cam in it, then you will hold yourself back a little on top end hp. a centri blower cam will work just fine with juice, and not hold you back as much n/a. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

October 12th, 2008, 01:09 AM	#10
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah, I hear ya. Seriously I haven't lsept in a week. This car has kept me up everynight, just thinking about what to do. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

October 12th, 2008, 01:17 AM	#13
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've built cars before with my dad, but it was never this stressful. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

October 12th, 2008, 01:20 AM	#14
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	i go thru it queit often it seems. every motor i build keeps me on my toes, but thats just the type of person i am. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

October 12th, 2008, 01:22 AM	#17
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,463 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	my biggest sleep loss........... spiral locks and the fuckin thrust washer. LMAO __________________ Military Crew U.S. Army Aviation Apache's Lead The Way

October 12th, 2008, 01:24 AM	#18
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	Him and I are a bit scared of them, so we're letting Modular Performance assemble the engine. Walsh Motorsports is doing the tuning, blower (if I go FI), and a few ither tweaks. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

October 12th, 2008, 01:25 AM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	wuss __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

October 12th, 2008, 01:27 AM	#20
futureMACH1racer Honeybadger is Crazy 2008 F-250 Super Duty Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 10,901 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'll tackle any FE Ford engine, LS engine or Mopar, but keep me away form modulars. I learned my lesson a while back. I had a 97 F-150 with a 4.6 that I played with and messed up. I had to have PHP go in there and fix it and install a Pro Charger. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

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