[93GT]

Hey guys,
I'm back after a year or so, i have been awaiting deployment with the ARMY and im finally where i was going, and now have a lot of time to plan out my next build. im coming at it from a different approch, i want to twin boost, a 5.0 but i dont know a whole lot about turbos/boosting, suggestions for the build. engine, components,drivetrain everything......

[uedlose]

how much coin do you have to spend? what do you want the car to do? what are you gone to use the car for? and what do you expect in the end ? what size motor? trans? tell us this first and thats a start

[baine21225]

list some goals and a budget and we will be able to help you out better

[93GT]

well for starters i dont want to put over 7,500 into it at first, its going to be a garage car for a little while, while i put everything together, the mustang is going to be a weekend warrior. i dont want to go to crazy at first i was thinking a crate motor, new clutch, ill put together a turbo kit for cost effectiveness. i want to beat some street bikes lets say 600s, i want to be arond 450 500, i need some tips on everything though

[e3sean]

well you can get a good turbo kit for around 5k i would suggest going with a big single rather then twin its less mess and more power for the price.

[baine21225]

Originally Posted by e3sean well you can get a good turbo kit for around 5k i would suggest going with a big single rather then twin its less mess and more power for the price.

+1

[93GT]

ok one big turbo, but what do you guys recommend for engine, heads, intake ect.

[TKOTLARZ]

trick flow heads and a custom cam..do some suspension work to if you dont have any yet as well as gears...

[uedlose]

I would say get a good block if you are gone to run a turbo. heads just about any good aftermarket head will work. I would look over at B&G turbos for a kit from them. Intake again most any aftermarket one will work due to the air being forced through it. Holley will work the Typhoons are cheap and clean up the ports a bit they work great. Look around for a used one and that helps with the cash. I would Say Cam Motion for a camshaft they rock with the turbo stuff.

[93GT]

what about the enternals, crank con. rods, pistons, ect. and i want the motor to have low compression for turbo right? how would i do that is it the internals or the block itself?

[uedlose]

Originally Posted by 93GT what about the enternals, crank con. rods, pistons, ect. and i want the motor to have low compression for turbo right? how would i do that is it the internals or the block itself?

yes I would get good internals if you are gone to get a good block if you are gone to run the stock block I would skip on the good stuff as the stock stuff would out last the stock block as far as HP goes most of the time. don't put good internals in a stock block that is kind of putting a bandage on a amputation. if you must and want to stroke the engine then go with cast steel stuff. If you are gone to run a good block by all means run forged stuff crank rods and pistons. I would also run at a forged piston in the stock stuff just for reliability issues with boost. you can lose compression with the pistons or getting a thicker head gasket or having the combustion chambers opened up also. but running a thicker head gasket can bring on more parts also like longer push rods as you may have to get the geometry right again on the rockers so they hit the top of the valve right again. if you do it right the first time with a good block and internals it will be cheaper in the long run cuz if you think about it building it 2 times can get expensive. but a lot of this depends on how much boost and how hard you are gone to run and how often. I my self still stuff from I cant go fast enough so its on you. also boost is like CRACK the first hit is FREE. By the way thanks for your service to our country!!!!!

[93GT]

ok so i want, stock block nothing to crazy im having a hard time dumping enough money into it right off the bat cause the old lady, we have to buy a house first!. forged rods and pistons( flat top,reverse dome?) heads i was thinking trick flow twisted wedge but need some help with that, are the valve and springs going to be good enough to push boost through?, cam with medium/high loop and i deff. want a stand alone ecu. all the rest will come later i just need the basics right now im trying to figure on the best set up. im looking for 400hp-500hp i want to push about 15-18 psi and i want to be able to take it for a drive whenever i feel like it.

Thanks for supporting us it means a lot. and deff. when im 7000 miles away from everything i know. it reminds me why i fight

[TKOTLARZ]

well you should decide on your intake and heads together..then get a custom cam..not sure what springs and valves your gonna wanna go with but im sure the guy making the cam will know whats best to go with that certain cam...the most flowing heads would be the 205cc trick flow heads and the super vic. manifold upper/lower..then maybe get some port matching done two them..especially if you get a turbo that would be best..also a 255 fuel pump, regulator, injectors with MAF sensor, exhaust, suspension,safety etc... and yes you want low compression for a boosted motor..make sure your motor gets balanced and make sure you know what size harmonic balancer they use..look into a DART or DSS block , or somthing like those

[Iownastang]

Ok you might want to think about lowering that boost down to 8-10 with a built motor and 15-18 psi of boost you could really do some damage but the block wouldnt hold it. Imo since your only wanting 400-500 hp i would just do a factory shortblock, put a good h/c/i on it and push a little boost into it you could make 450rwhp without trying and not have 30000 bucks put into it. If you plan on building the motor with alot of boost you really need to think about an aftermarket block theres no way around it and you will figure it out when you crack your factory one and its not an if its a when.. you will, the factory blocks in these cars suck.... The only other option with a factory block is a 351 windsor. theyre good to around 700hp give or take some unlike the factories limit of 500, theres been plenty break with less hp and plenty hold together with alot more. But its a ticking time bomb. Then you gotta start thinkin about a transmission which is not going to be cheap and any kind of factory transmission whether it be a 5spd or and automatic is not going to last behind the power. If you want a 5spd you may want to look at a tremec but it will set you back some amount of coin. A single 255lph fuel pump is not going to do you either if you plan on making massive amount of boost or hp your going to haft to opt for an inline pump or go a diff route such as an aeromotive a1000. I also dont know if you really want a stand alone ecu they are very expensive and require a vast amount of knowledge to use.

[93GT]

aright im still set on that stack block, 500 is all i want for now and when i get ready for more speed ill buy a dss. i was looking a turbo kits on turbomustangs.com and they had complete kit from 2999 to 5000 including everything fuel pump, intercooler, piping,ect everything. as far as the stand alone ecu goes ill aquire the knowledge i figure im over here for a year, might as well learn about somthing, ive got the turbo bible, in the mail on its way to me and i have a bud whos got a mega squirt ecu and hes a freaking genius with that thing. how much hp do you think i could get from a t67 turbo? and at 500 hp what kinda times in the 1/4 mile would i be looking at?

[ryans88gt]

8-10 PSI on a turbo 306 with any aluminum head and a cobra intake or better will give you the 450-500 hp you are looking for.

A stock block 87-92 will work good. A custom cam for the turbo will help out a lot. Save some money for tuning.

I would say:
$3000 for the turbo kit from B&G
$1000 for freshening the block, new oil pump, 9333PT1 gaskets, head studs, etc...
$1400 on a decent set of heads
$1000 on fuel system upgrades, pumps, injectors, MAF
$600 for a tune
That'll leave you with a little money left over for things like a new clutch, tires, etc...

[Iownastang]

dss uses stock blocks until you get up to the xr.

[93GT]

what kinda block would you recommend,and does the 351block mount up the same and what would i have to change in order to put it in

[uedlose]

Yes the 351 will fit in the car you may run into some hood clearance issues. But like said they are much stronger. They take a diff. oil pan and a diff. lower intake and you will need to get a distributor to fit it. But you gain 49 CID and a much stronger block but make sure if you go that way you need to order the turbo kit for the 9.5 deck block. and if you want to make big boost you are gone to make big HP and the stock 5.0 block is just not gone to last

[nolife]

Originally Posted by 93GT what kinda block would you recommend,and does the 351block mount up the same and what would i have to change in order to put it in

http://www.freewebs.com/vristang/fox351wswapfaq.htm and 351 Engine Swap - 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords Magazine
has swap info. Search here or google as well. Tons of information.