NEED opinions on intake project PLEASE

flamestang · January 9th, 2009, 09:51 PM

OK I have a Holley Systemax setup with paxton 2000 that is a driverside mount.With a Anderson Power pipe and PMAS 88mm draw thru maf. I looking to change to a Probe ind. Spyder setup that is a victor jr single plane with elbow and EFI fuel rails.Also get a PMAS blow thru tube and while I'm at it ditch my 42# injectors (that reach 100% DC at 5000 rpm) and get new 60#.
Right now it's set up at 10 psi and starts boost at 3500 rpm.My intensions are to get it to boost faster by having less volume to fill by allso piping over the top of the distributer.
Note this is not a street car track only.
What do you think? sway me please.

baine21225 · January 9th, 2009, 10:18 PM

sounds like an awesome idea, i'll buy your 42s from you when you upgrade...

flamestang · January 9th, 2009, 11:33 PM

A guy at my work is putting together a 302 and is wanting my intake or to buy a new one.So I found a good used spyder intake.If you want my injectors I'll sell them.They are Summit brand don't know who made them for them.I bought them new for $260.They have about 300 miles on them.Make an offer.

http://http://store.summitracing.com...5&autoview=sku

Iownastang · January 9th, 2009, 11:36 PM

I think the summit injectors are made by accel

baine21225 · January 9th, 2009, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by flamestang

A guy at my work is putting together a 302 and is wanting my intake or to buy a new one.So I found a good used spyder intake.If you want my injectors I'll sell them.They are Summit brand don't know who made them for them.I bought them new for $260.They have about 300 miles on them.Make an offer.

http://http://store.summitracing.com...5&autoview=sku

ok, i'll pm you

93mustank · January 10th, 2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by flamestang

OK I have a Holley Systemax setup with paxton 2000 that is a driverside mount.With a Anderson Power pipe and PMAS 88mm draw thru maf. I looking to change to a Probe ind. Spyder setup that is a victor jr single plane with elbow and EFI fuel rails.Also get a PMAS blow thru tube and while I'm at it ditch my 42# injectors (that reach 100% DC at 5000 rpm) and get new 60#.
Right now it's set up at 10 psi and starts boost at 3500 rpm.My intensions are to get it to boost faster by having less volume to fill by allso piping over the top of the distributer.
Note this is not a street car track only.
What do you think? sway me please.

Depends what the rest of the combo is??????///

Shorter runner intake with a larger cross section will net you more power and rpm.......

That is if its usable rpm in your case

flamestang · January 10th, 2009, 09:40 AM

good point

Racinjason81 · January 10th, 2009, 12:24 PM

i dont think shortening the piping would help that much with boosting quicker the improvement if any wouldnt be worth the work.if you want to make it boost quicker
you could use a smaller pulley to spin the blower faster(but make sure its within safe limits of your blower)and add a wastegate to the intake piping to regulate the boost down where you want it.For example you could use a 15lb pulley and use then set the wastegate to limit your boost to 10psi so the boost would respond quicker.if you wanted
to go more extreme you could use a Electronic boost controller to adjust it,set boost for different gears,etc.

flamestang · January 10th, 2009, 01:13 PM

Makes sence.It is a paxton 2000 renegade race system that can make 30 psi.I do have a waist valve and a couple different pullies.I have a 15# pulley (not installed).It is dyno tuned waisting at 10psi now.Wow thanks that was great advice

Racinjason81 · January 10th, 2009, 01:30 PM

how much boost do you wanna run ?How big of a wastegate do you have?see turbo parts can even work on a blower car.

1slo5.0 · January 10th, 2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by flamestang

OK I have a Holley Systemax setup with paxton 2000 that is a driverside mount.With a Anderson Power pipe and PMAS 88mm draw thru maf. I looking to change to a Probe ind. Spyder setup that is a victor jr single plane with elbow and EFI fuel rails.Also get a PMAS blow thru tube and while I'm at it ditch my 42# injectors (that reach 100% DC at 5000 rpm) and get new 60#.
Right now it's set up at 10 psi and starts boost at 3500 rpm.My intensions are to get it to boost faster by having less volume to fill by allso piping over the top of the distributer.
Note this is not a street car track only.
What do you think? sway me please.

The Spyder should make more power because it flows more air. Also keep in mind when you increase the airflow thru the engine the boost level will probably go down. That doesn't mean you are making less power, you will actually be making more power with less boost because the engine is more efficient.

flamestang · January 10th, 2009, 07:17 PM

I want to keep it around 10-12 psi.It has a vorteck waist gate about 40mm.

flamestang · January 10th, 2009, 07:22 PM

thanks Darrell that is great advice

e3sean · January 11th, 2009, 03:11 AM

did u see the pics?

flamestang · January 11th, 2009, 02:33 PM

yes thanks I would like to buy but I need to sell what I have now.

baine21225 · January 11th, 2009, 03:20 PM

hey flamestang nice song choice on the first video

January 9th, 2009, 09:51 PM	#1
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	NEED opinions on intake project PLEASE OK I have a Holley Systemax setup with paxton 2000 that is a driverside mount.With a Anderson Power pipe and PMAS 88mm draw thru maf. I looking to change to a Probe ind. Spyder setup that is a victor jr single plane with elbow and EFI fuel rails.Also get a PMAS blow thru tube and while I'm at it ditch my 42# injectors (that reach 100% DC at 5000 rpm) and get new 60#. Right now it's set up at 10 psi and starts boost at 3500 rpm.My intensions are to get it to boost faster by having less volume to fill by allso piping over the top of the distributer. Note this is not a street car track only. What do you think? sway me please.

January 9th, 2009, 10:18 PM	#2
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	sounds like an awesome idea, i'll buy your 42s from you when you upgrade... __________________ "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

January 9th, 2009, 11:36 PM	#4
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think the summit injectors are made by accel __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

January 10th, 2009, 12:24 PM	#8
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont think shortening the piping would help that much with boosting quicker the improvement if any wouldnt be worth the work.if you want to make it boost quicker you could use a smaller pulley to spin the blower faster(but make sure its within safe limits of your blower)and add a wastegate to the intake piping to regulate the boost down where you want it.For example you could use a 15lb pulley and use then set the wastegate to limit your boost to 10psi so the boost would respond quicker.if you wanted to go more extreme you could use a Electronic boost controller to adjust it,set boost for different gears,etc. __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

January 10th, 2009, 01:30 PM	#10
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	how much boost do you wanna run ?How big of a wastegate do you have?see turbo parts can even work on a blower car. __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

January 9th, 2009, 11:33 PM	#3
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	A guy at my work is putting together a 302 and is wanting my intake or to buy a new one.So I found a good used spyder intake.If you want my injectors I'll sell them.They are Summit brand don't know who made them for them.I bought them new for $260.They have about 300 miles on them.Make an offer. http://http://store.summitracing.com...5&autoview=sku

January 10th, 2009, 09:40 AM	#7
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	good point

January 10th, 2009, 01:13 PM	#9
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	Makes sence.It is a paxton 2000 renegade race system that can make 30 psi.I do have a waist valve and a couple different pullies.I have a 15# pulley (not installed).It is dyno tuned waisting at 10psi now.Wow thanks that was great advice

January 10th, 2009, 07:17 PM	#12
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	I want to keep it around 10-12 psi.It has a vorteck waist gate about 40mm.

January 10th, 2009, 07:22 PM	#13
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks Darrell that is great advice

January 11th, 2009, 03:11 AM	#14
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,609 iTrader: 0 reviews	did u see the pics? __________________

January 11th, 2009, 02:33 PM	#15
flamestang Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes thanks I would like to buy but I need to sell what I have now.

January 11th, 2009, 03:20 PM	#16
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	hey flamestang nice song choice on the first video __________________ "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

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