4 speed foxbody stang?

ScitzoFitzo · January 17th, 2009, 06:32 AM

Got a quick question, dont know how early this idea may be shot down.
supose i want to slap in a ford 4 speed manual gearbox into a 89 gt 5.0, and it had a AOD, aside from the obvious parts, what, if any, bellhousing would work, clutch, etc....?

86er · January 17th, 2009, 09:51 AM

check how the clutch fork is set up, some were pull style and some were push style, other than that any bell housing for a sbf will bolt up.

White Thunder · January 17th, 2009, 09:59 AM

what year did they stop making the 4 speed.....did they ever have a 302 with a 4 speed...om thinking like the mustang II's or something.

86er · January 17th, 2009, 12:10 PM

i Know the 79-81 or 82 had a 4 speed in them, it may have been behind the 4.2 but its the same bellhousing pattern

Drick · January 17th, 2009, 12:55 PM

I belive they completley got rid of the 4 speed in 84 dont hold me to that.

Cause im pretty sure 82 or 83 was the first year they offered the 5 speed as an option not as the standard manual. Then in 84 they got rid of the 4 speed and made the 5 speed standard.

Why would you wanna put a 4 speed in an AOD? Im guessing just cause you got one laying around and its convinent. I say dont do it. If its an older 4 speed you got a 1:1 final gear ration wich isnt over drive and you'll be sucking gas like none other. I say save your money for a good 5 speed and then you'll have a lower first gear plus an over drive to cruise 1500 miles down the interstate no problem

ScitzoFitzo · January 17th, 2009, 02:44 PM

i doing it because its laying around and conveinent, but also because i want a 4 speed. if i wanted a 5 speed i wouldnt of bothered to sell the last t-5 i had at the same time i got the 4 speed, and i dug the four speed out of a 4 cyl four-eye mustang i got from when i did a part time at the salvage yard. but the 4 speed will be just for a road race run, eventually when i save up a bit i want to get me a good TKO trans to shove in it, keeping it cheap right now (just had a daughter born!).

M L Struck · January 17th, 2009, 03:21 PM

the input shaft is smaller on a 4 banger trans then on a v8, gear ratios are different also

50fanatic · January 17th, 2009, 08:35 PM

Did the early 80's foxbody come with the SROD 4 speed manual?

JBIGBOOTSY · January 17th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Is it a srod, or a old Doug Nash?

jtyson8602 · January 18th, 2009, 12:41 AM

the 4 speed also has a ball bearing set around the input shaft which wont hold up for long under a serious load from the 5.0. thats why the roller bearings are used now. and the input shaft itself is smaller by far than even the 5 speed 4cyl t5. I have one of these old 4 speeds here at home with a bell housing to match if youre interested pm me.

ScitzoFitzo · January 18th, 2009, 06:35 AM

actually i'd be up for looking for any good swap in, i gota 5-speed bellhousing, but the t-5 that was with it was gone when i found it, so i got the ready able ability to toss one in, just minus the actual trans itself for a 5 speed. but 4 or 5 speed, i dont care, i just want a stick in it, last automatic suffered a lovely snapping of the tailshaft when the converter caught late one day.

M L Struck · January 18th, 2009, 10:18 AM

They were SROD before the t5

notfastenuff · January 18th, 2009, 10:55 AM

Make sure you check you gear ratios

trueblue01 · January 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM

Best thing to do with the SROD is scrap it. WC t-5 at a minimum, I'm using a "66 cast iron toploader that I had face plated at Liberty's but it would make a shitty street or road race trans. Shifts smooth as butter at 7800 though!

January 17th, 2009, 06:32 AM	#1
ScitzoFitzo Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	4 speed foxbody stang? Got a quick question, dont know how early this idea may be shot down. supose i want to slap in a ford 4 speed manual gearbox into a 89 gt 5.0, and it had a AOD, aside from the obvious parts, what, if any, bellhousing would work, clutch, etc....?

January 17th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#2
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	check how the clutch fork is set up, some were pull style and some were push style, other than that any bell housing for a sbf will bolt up. __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 17th, 2009, 12:10 PM	#4
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	i Know the 79-81 or 82 had a 4 speed in them, it may have been behind the 4.2 but its the same bellhousing pattern __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 17th, 2009, 12:55 PM	#5
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	I belive they completley got rid of the 4 speed in 84 dont hold me to that. Cause im pretty sure 82 or 83 was the first year they offered the 5 speed as an option not as the standard manual. Then in 84 they got rid of the 4 speed and made the 5 speed standard. Why would you wanna put a 4 speed in an AOD? Im guessing just cause you got one laying around and its convinent. I say dont do it. If its an older 4 speed you got a 1:1 final gear ration wich isnt over drive and you'll be sucking gas like none other. I say save your money for a good 5 speed and then you'll have a lower first gear plus an over drive to cruise 1500 miles down the interstate no problem __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

January 17th, 2009, 08:35 PM	#8
50fanatic Regular 1993 mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 78 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did the early 80's foxbody come with the SROD 4 speed manual? __________________

January 17th, 2009, 02:44 PM	#6
ScitzoFitzo Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	i doing it because its laying around and conveinent, but also because i want a 4 speed. if i wanted a 5 speed i wouldnt of bothered to sell the last t-5 i had at the same time i got the 4 speed, and i dug the four speed out of a 4 cyl four-eye mustang i got from when i did a part time at the salvage yard. but the 4 speed will be just for a road race run, eventually when i save up a bit i want to get me a good TKO trans to shove in it, keeping it cheap right now (just had a daughter born!).

January 17th, 2009, 03:21 PM	#7
M L Struck Hardcore Enthusiast 85 GT/86 SVO/2010 GT500 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rossville IN Posts: 1,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	the input shaft is smaller on a 4 banger trans then on a v8, gear ratios are different also

January 17th, 2009, 10:21 PM	#9
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is it a srod, or a old Doug Nash? __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

January 18th, 2009, 12:41 AM	#10
jtyson8602 Regular 1986 LX none yet Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Albuquerque New Mexico Posts: 277 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 4 speed also has a ball bearing set around the input shaft which wont hold up for long under a serious load from the 5.0. thats why the roller bearings are used now. and the input shaft itself is smaller by far than even the 5 speed 4cyl t5. I have one of these old 4 speeds here at home with a bell housing to match if youre interested pm me.

January 18th, 2009, 06:35 AM	#11
ScitzoFitzo Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	actually i'd be up for looking for any good swap in, i gota 5-speed bellhousing, but the t-5 that was with it was gone when i found it, so i got the ready able ability to toss one in, just minus the actual trans itself for a 5 speed. but 4 or 5 speed, i dont care, i just want a stick in it, last automatic suffered a lovely snapping of the tailshaft when the converter caught late one day.

January 18th, 2009, 10:18 AM	#12
M L Struck Hardcore Enthusiast 85 GT/86 SVO/2010 GT500 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rossville IN Posts: 1,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	They were SROD before the t5

January 18th, 2009, 10:55 AM	#13
notfastenuff Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 122 iTrader: 0 reviews	Make sure you check you gear ratios

January 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM	#14
trueblue01 Enthusiast 1989 Mustang LX 10.98@126.7 NA Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Best thing to do with the SROD is scrap it. WC t-5 at a minimum, I'm using a "66 cast iron toploader that I had face plated at Liberty's but it would make a shitty street or road race trans. Shifts smooth as butter at 7800 though! __________________ Never fast enough.

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