what went wrong?

viperlocc · February 4th, 2009, 09:07 PM

my old block has YYY under the intake, and my new one i just bought (new but old) has XXX in the same place.....

is this telling me i cant use my rollers and etc...?????

viperlocc · February 4th, 2009, 09:11 PM

well what i mean is from my old block, down the main valley was this piece held down by 2 screws that had 4 arms extending out from each side holding the rollers in place....

my new block i picked up has no spot for me to screw this down...what do i have to do in order to get my rollers to work with this block?

looks like these, but 2 bolts hold it down
Edelbrock 97386 - Edelbrock O.E. Style Hydraulic Roller Lifters - JEGS

flamed 98 gt · February 4th, 2009, 09:27 PM

I believe that is a non roller block. If you are going to use it you will need to do the conversion.

flamed 98 gt · February 4th, 2009, 09:28 PM

These.
Crane 36532-16 - Crane Cams Hydraulic Roller Lifters - JEGS

uedlose · February 4th, 2009, 09:35 PM

What year block do you have does it have the boss where the holes go? if so just drill and tap them for the bolts.

89LX347 · February 4th, 2009, 09:46 PM

i am pretty sure XXX and YYY blocks are both roller blocks. could be wrong

86er · February 4th, 2009, 09:58 PM

just take it to a machine shop 30 bucks later its drilled and tapped end of story

viperlocc · February 4th, 2009, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by 86er

just take it to a machine shop 30 bucks later its drilled and tapped end of story

think ill do this seeing as i dont have $500 to fork over. Previous owner threw in a HO cam so I figured i can just transfer everything over...guess i was wrong.

superbean · February 5th, 2009, 12:36 AM

xxx is a roller block.. but it's not. Has provisions and slightly taller lifter extrusions. Just have to drill/tap the 4 for the lifter spider as said above.

ditch the HO cam.. atleast put an alphabet cam in there as they are tossed out left and right super cheap.

viperlocc · February 6th, 2009, 08:30 PM

started to drill and noticed that the 2 spots where i need to drill are right above where the cam is stableized or whatever to the block.

dont have the money to replace all the lifters, what options do i have? do people sell used lifters?

or do i re-buy the spider/retainers that have 3 screws in different location than the one i have (i believe its the ford racing)

86er · February 6th, 2009, 11:09 PM

either be very careful or knock the cam bearing out and then reinstall the bearing after youve drilled and tapped, hence the pay the machine shop to just do it

viperlocc · February 7th, 2009, 10:20 AM

so im gonna have to remove the pistons/rods/crank and have a shop remove the cam bearings, drill 2 holes, and re-install everything with new shit, again? im about to sell the car as a roller block and be done with it.

viperlocc · February 7th, 2009, 10:24 AM

is this all ill need? Ford Racing M-6500-S58 - Ford Racing Lifters - JEGS

86er · February 7th, 2009, 10:46 AM

only 500 bucks, it costs nothing for you to take the crank/rods/pistons out, just number which one they came from and what direction they faced, take the bare block and some cash, have the work done, then put said crank/rods/pistons back into the right cylinders facing the right direction

superbean · February 7th, 2009, 12:12 PM

my friend has a set of good used roller lifters and spider

let me know if you need it

viperlocc · February 7th, 2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by 86er

only 500 bucks, it costs nothing for you to take the crank/rods/pistons out, just number which one they came from and what direction they faced, take the bare block and some cash, have the work done, then put said crank/rods/pistons back into the right cylinders facing the right direction

i figured i needed to replace all the bearings, which i dont want to do. but if i can do it without replacing those (only 300 miles on the motor) ill rip it apart then.

86er · February 7th, 2009, 02:01 PM

you can reuse thebearings
thats no big deal

86er · February 7th, 2009, 02:02 PM

the bearings are like the pistons, they gotta go back where they came from

February 4th, 2009, 09:07 PM	#1
viperlocc Regular 1985 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stevens Point Posts: 316 iTrader: 0 reviews	what went wrong? my old block has YYY under the intake, and my new one i just bought (new but old) has XXX in the same place..... is this telling me i cant use my rollers and etc...?????

February 4th, 2009, 09:11 PM	#2
viperlocc Regular 1985 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stevens Point Posts: 316 iTrader: 0 reviews	well what i mean is from my old block, down the main valley was this piece held down by 2 screws that had 4 arms extending out from each side holding the rollers in place.... my new block i picked up has no spot for me to screw this down...what do i have to do in order to get my rollers to work with this block? looks like these, but 2 bolts hold it down Edelbrock 97386 - Edelbrock O.E. Style Hydraulic Roller Lifters - JEGS Last edited by viperlocc; February 4th, 2009 at 09:24 PM.

February 4th, 2009, 09:35 PM	#5
uedlose Regular 89 Mustang Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Middle Way WV Posts: 184 iTrader: 0 reviews	What year block do you have does it have the boss where the holes go? if so just drill and tap them for the bolts. __________________ Just another turbo Mustang..No dyno numbers just good ets and MPH. And yes it is fast for a street car. few parts for sale https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...l=en_US&pli=1#

February 4th, 2009, 09:46 PM	#6
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	i am pretty sure XXX and YYY blocks are both roller blocks. could be wrong __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

February 4th, 2009, 09:58 PM	#7
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	just take it to a machine shop 30 bucks later its drilled and tapped end of story __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

February 4th, 2009, 09:27 PM	#3
flamed 98 gt Regular 1990 5.0 LX Notch Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Colony, TX Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 reviews	I believe that is a non roller block. If you are going to use it you will need to do the conversion.

February 4th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#4
flamed 98 gt Regular 1990 5.0 LX Notch Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Colony, TX Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 reviews	These. Crane 36532-16 - Crane Cams Hydraulic Roller Lifters - JEGS

February 5th, 2009, 12:36 AM	#9
superbean Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Cobra 13.24@105.66 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,778 iTrader: 0 reviews	xxx is a roller block.. but it's not. Has provisions and slightly taller lifter extrusions. Just have to drill/tap the 4 for the lifter spider as said above. ditch the HO cam.. atleast put an alphabet cam in there as they are tossed out left and right super cheap. __________________ weeee foooord!

February 6th, 2009, 08:30 PM	#10
viperlocc Regular 1985 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stevens Point Posts: 316 iTrader: 0 reviews	started to drill and noticed that the 2 spots where i need to drill are right above where the cam is stableized or whatever to the block. dont have the money to replace all the lifters, what options do i have? do people sell used lifters? or do i re-buy the spider/retainers that have 3 screws in different location than the one i have (i believe its the ford racing) Last edited by viperlocc; February 6th, 2009 at 08:36 PM.

February 6th, 2009, 11:09 PM	#11
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	either be very careful or knock the cam bearing out and then reinstall the bearing after youve drilled and tapped, hence the pay the machine shop to just do it __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

February 7th, 2009, 10:20 AM	#12
viperlocc Regular 1985 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stevens Point Posts: 316 iTrader: 0 reviews	so im gonna have to remove the pistons/rods/crank and have a shop remove the cam bearings, drill 2 holes, and re-install everything with new shit, again? im about to sell the car as a roller block and be done with it.

February 7th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#13
viperlocc Regular 1985 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Stevens Point Posts: 316 iTrader: 0 reviews	is this all ill need? Ford Racing M-6500-S58 - Ford Racing Lifters - JEGS

February 7th, 2009, 10:46 AM	#14
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	only 500 bucks, it costs nothing for you to take the crank/rods/pistons out, just number which one they came from and what direction they faced, take the bare block and some cash, have the work done, then put said crank/rods/pistons back into the right cylinders facing the right direction __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

February 7th, 2009, 12:12 PM	#15
superbean Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Cobra 13.24@105.66 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,778 iTrader: 0 reviews	my friend has a set of good used roller lifters and spider let me know if you need it __________________ weeee foooord!

February 7th, 2009, 02:01 PM	#17
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can reuse thebearings thats no big deal __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

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February 7th, 2009, 02:02 PM	#18
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	the bearings are like the pistons, they gotta go back where they came from __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

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