When is a roll cage required?

82GT · January 5th, 2007, 10:08 PM

What E.T do they start requiring a 4 point cage?

White99stang · January 5th, 2007, 10:11 PM

well its a roll bar, a 6point roll bar is required in a coupe if you are running 11.49 and quicker, a cage actually goes forward into the dash and are 8-point, 12-point. but those are for 9.99-7.99

White99stang · January 5th, 2007, 10:14 PM

also look at my sticky in the 99-04 section for all the safety regulations

Stangzilla · January 5th, 2007, 11:59 PM

11.49 or quicker requiers a 5pt bar minium. and a 8pt system does not go through the dash. 10pt cages go through the dash. and if you are running 11.49 or quicker you also have to have a quick release harness system. and the roll bar hoop must not be more than 6 inches from the drivers head with a helmet on and the rear hoop braces cannot be welded more than 5 inches from the top of the rear hoop. when in doubt buy the nhra book because as you can tell people think the now the rules and they dont...

Tony_90fox · January 6th, 2007, 09:48 AM

what happens when you are at the track and dont know what your ride will run and you go faster than 11.49? Do they fine you or what?

5-0stank · January 6th, 2007, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

what happens when you are at the track and dont know what your ride will run and you go faster than 11.49? Do they fine you or what?

i know where i race the guys there told my friend he couldnt race anymore that day. he came back w/o a cage again and they havent said anything

my friends have been in the 10's at atco raceway and there were no problems

Tony_90fox · January 6th, 2007, 09:53 AM

cool, i guess if i ever get there, i will see what they say at my local track.

89StangGT · January 6th, 2007, 10:38 AM

yeah at my track if you go 11.49 or quicker they tell you to put it back on the trailor or drive it home and dont come back without a cage or less mods.

1slo5.0 · January 6th, 2007, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by 82GT

What E.T do they start requiring a 4 point cage?

My advice would be to look into your future plans. A 6 point roll bar is required 11.49 (IHRA) and 11.99 (NHRA). If your future plans include going faster than that I'd recomend doing a 10 point roll cage right away. I'd recomend chromoly too if you can swing it because it is lighter and the resale value of the car will be higher as well.

Stangzilla · January 6th, 2007, 11:27 AM

As of 2006 rules its a 5 pt cage not a 6pt. and the way to get around the 11.49 thing if you are at a test and tune is when the light turns just wait a second or two after the light turns green then go. so if you usually run say a 11.30 and you wait 2 seconds you will run a 13.30!! take your timeslips home punch the numbers into a drag calc and you will know what you approx. run....

82GT · January 6th, 2007, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

As of 2006 rules its a 5 pt cage not a 6pt. and the way to get around the 11.49 thing if you are at a test and tune is when the light turns just wait a second or two after the light turns green then go. so if you usually run say a 11.30 and you wait 2 seconds you will run a 13.30!! take your timeslips home punch the numbers into a drag calc and you will know what you approx. run....

That won't work because each lanes timer doesn't start until you break the beam. I could set there all day after the green and it's only going to tell me what I ran after I break the timing beam.
The ONLY way around it would be to let off the gas before you go through the traps.

Stangzilla · January 6th, 2007, 03:08 PM

so roll foward and break the beam then wait....

82GT · January 6th, 2007, 03:45 PM

I'd rather install the bar. For me...it's run ALL OUT or not at all!!

1slo5.0 · January 6th, 2007, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

so roll foward and break the beam then wait....

That would defeat the purpose of going fast now wouldn't it

5-0stank · January 6th, 2007, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

so roll foward and break the beam then wait....

then ur 60' time would suck and would a calculator not use that to get ur time????

Twist 2 Go · January 7th, 2007, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

As of 2006 rules its a 5 pt cage not a 6pt. and the way to get around the 11.49 thing if you are at a test and tune is when the light turns just wait a second or two after the light turns green then go. so if you usually run say a 11.30 and you wait 2 seconds you will run a 13.30!! take your timeslips home punch the numbers into a drag calc and you will know what you approx. run....

that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard

MSO · January 7th, 2007, 03:31 PM

yea i wudnt wait 2 seconds, jus nurse it goin down the track

if u wanna cheat that is

Stangzilla · January 8th, 2007, 12:24 AM

nothin wrong with rollin foward a bit... does not defeat the purpose of goin fast.. he still ripped it!!!
http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...9d013e1438.htm

Tony_90fox · January 8th, 2007, 12:30 AM

Yeah, that is okay, but i still think it defeats the purpose of having a fast car. We all know he went faster than a 14 second run, why not just get a cage and have your real numbers light up the time screen? Maybe he is cheap like me and didnt want to have to buy a cage so he found that route was better.

1slo5.0 · January 8th, 2007, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

nothin wrong with rollin foward a bit... does not defeat the purpose of goin fast.. he still ripped it!!!
http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...9d013e1438.htm

The only problem with that is there is not only an ET break down but also a mph break down. I'd have to look in the rule book but the rules state xx.xx et and/or xxx mph. Being lazy off the line will kill the ET horribly but it won't kill the mph at all.

January 5th, 2007, 10:08 PM	#1
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White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hanover, MD Posts: 3,187	well its a roll bar, a 6point roll bar is required in a coupe if you are running 11.49 and quicker, a cage actually goes forward into the dash and are 8-point, 12-point. but those are for 9.99-7.99 __________________ 99 Mustang GT VT 302 Stroker 11.13@123 f.s. 7.5k 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

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January 5th, 2007, 11:59 PM	#4
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,267	11.49 or quicker requiers a 5pt bar minium. and a 8pt system does not go through the dash. 10pt cages go through the dash. and if you are running 11.49 or quicker you also have to have a quick release harness system. and the roll bar hoop must not be more than 6 inches from the drivers head with a helmet on and the rear hoop braces cannot be welded more than 5 inches from the top of the rear hoop. when in doubt buy the nhra book because as you can tell people think the now the rules and they dont... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

January 6th, 2007, 10:38 AM	#8
89StangGT Moderator SVT Cobra Mustang Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 1,174	yeah at my track if you go 11.49 or quicker they tell you to put it back on the trailor or drive it home and dont come back without a cage or less mods. __________________ MM COBRA CLUB # 56

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January 6th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#5
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,833	what happens when you are at the track and dont know what your ride will run and you go faster than 11.49? Do they fine you or what?

January 6th, 2007, 09:53 AM	#7
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,833	cool, i guess if i ever get there, i will see what they say at my local track.

January 6th, 2007, 11:27 AM	#10
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,267	As of 2006 rules its a 5 pt cage not a 6pt. and the way to get around the 11.49 thing if you are at a test and tune is when the light turns just wait a second or two after the light turns green then go. so if you usually run say a 11.30 and you wait 2 seconds you will run a 13.30!! take your timeslips home punch the numbers into a drag calc and you will know what you approx. run.... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

January 6th, 2007, 03:08 PM	#12
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,267	so roll foward and break the beam then wait.... __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

January 6th, 2007, 03:45 PM	#13
82GT Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Danville, Pa. Posts: 244	I'd rather install the bar. For me...it's run ALL OUT or not at all!! __________________ 1982 GT (t-top) 351w(.060),10:3, ported & polished iron heads, 1.94/1.60 valves, BBK shorties & flowmasters, 274XE cam, stealth intake, mallory dizzy, stealth intake, 750dp, Edge 3700 stall converter, C-4, 4:10's Best E.T 12.85@102mph

January 7th, 2007, 03:31 PM	#17
MSO Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: アメリカ Posts: 5,956	yea i wudnt wait 2 seconds, jus nurse it goin down the track if u wanna cheat that is

January 8th, 2007, 12:24 AM	#18
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,267	nothin wrong with rollin foward a bit... does not defeat the purpose of goin fast.. he still ripped it!!! http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...9d013e1438.htm __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

January 8th, 2007, 12:30 AM	#19
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,833	Yeah, that is okay, but i still think it defeats the purpose of having a fast car. We all know he went faster than a 14 second run, why not just get a cage and have your real numbers light up the time screen? Maybe he is cheap like me and didnt want to have to buy a cage so he found that route was better.

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