What a piece

88_FiveOh · March 30th, 2009, 12:31 AM

So yesterday i got in my car and cruised around for a while and i looked down and realized my car was running at a little over half of the temp gauge. (it usually never exceeds the 2nd or 3rd line form the bottom.) It has coolant in it and it has a brand new water pump and i have dual electric fans. Any suggestions? Also while i was riding around i stopped to get gas and when i went to start my car back up it wouldnt start

! So today i bought a battery starter an alternator and this piece of S**t still doesnt wanna start after its been driven for a while. I think the starter is heating up and once it cools down it will start fine. Will a high torque mini starter solve this?

The Novice · March 30th, 2009, 12:40 AM

Could get an aftermarket Water. Temp Gauge. if ya have the extra money a good idea imo, b/c they are more actuate but how long do ya have to drive it before it gets hot. Doesnt really make sense to me, its not like the Starter is on all the time....Weird. hopefully someone will chime in soon to help.

88_FiveOh · March 30th, 2009, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by The Novice

Could get an aftermarket Water. Temp Gauge. if ya have the extra money a good idea imo, b/c they are more actuate but how long do ya have to drive it before it gets hot. Doesnt really make sense to me, its not like the Starter is on all the time....Weird. hopefully someone will chime in soon to help.

If i drive it for about 10 minutes it wont start if i cut it back off and try to start it back up

89LX347 · March 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM

is this the first time you have driven it since you replaced the pump? have you added coolant? there might be an air pocket in the line somewhere

88_FiveOh · March 30th, 2009, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by 89LX347

is this the first time you have driven it since you replaced the pump? have you added coolant? there might be an air pocket in the line somewhere

no, i have the pump on for a little over a month now

AP Racing · March 30th, 2009, 01:25 AM

it the starter and the high tq one will be nice but if you want to avoid it happening again soon buy a heat shield or some heat wrap. idk about the water thing mine has started to do the same thing, but it only get up to like the 3 line.

93hatch · March 30th, 2009, 01:35 AM

tfi module, but my car did the same thing when the starter solenoid went bad, both are cheap as hell to replace

gotn20 · March 30th, 2009, 10:14 AM

hatch i'm loving that avy man

88_FiveOh · March 30th, 2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

tfi module, but my car did the same thing when the starter solenoid went bad, both are cheap as hell to replace

The solenoid isn't but 3 months old. i would hope that it isnt bad already. I'll check it anyways thou

flattusmaximus78 · March 30th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Yeah that no avy is sick hatch... don't ever be ashamed of your body

93hatch · March 30th, 2009, 11:53 AM

thanks guys, hearing stuff like that makes me want to put clothes on and go out in public... almost

baine21225 · March 30th, 2009, 02:50 PM

little steps

JBIGBOOTSY · March 30th, 2009, 03:51 PM

I got 20 bucks says its batery cables.

J0rn3z · March 30th, 2009, 05:07 PM

Mine did the same thing (aside from it being a 351w) It would crank perfectly then id drive it for about 10-20minutes and go to crank it and it wouldnt until it cooled down, replaced my starter solenoid and it starts everytime..unless my battery was dead, but thats a different problem.

On a latter note, Does it click when you go to crank it?

flattusmaximus78 · March 30th, 2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

thanks guys, hearing stuff like that makes me want to put clothes on and go out in public... almost

Slow down big guy... just cause ur ready doesn't mean we are to. Like baine said.... little steps man.

88_FiveOh · March 30th, 2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by J0rn3z

Mine did the same thing (aside from it being a 351w) It would crank perfectly then id drive it for about 10-20minutes and go to crank it and it wouldnt until it cooled down, replaced my starter solenoid and it starts everytime..unless my battery was dead, but thats a different problem.

On a latter note, Does it click when you go to crank it?

No it doesn't click, but today i rode around and when i shut the car off and left my fans on and it started right up when i tried.

jtyson8602 · March 30th, 2009, 11:46 PM

try heat shielding the starter first. probably the cheapest option. I also had this problem before and it was a combination of too much heat and not charging enough

chriswao · March 31st, 2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Yeah that no avy is sick hatch... don't ever be ashamed of your body

loosing weight hatch? looken a little on the slim side

grnstang · March 31st, 2009, 10:46 AM

shouldnt have to heat shield the starter. there is some other problem

M L Struck · March 31st, 2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by grnstang

shouldnt have to heat shield the starter. there is some other problem

+1

March 30th, 2009, 12:31 AM	#1
88_FiveOh Regular 1988 lx 13.13@101.78 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 191 iTrader: 0 reviews	What a piece So yesterday i got in my car and cruised around for a while and i looked down and realized my car was running at a little over half of the temp gauge. (it usually never exceeds the 2nd or 3rd line form the bottom.) It has coolant in it and it has a brand new water pump and i have dual electric fans. Any suggestions? Also while i was riding around i stopped to get gas and when i went to start my car back up it wouldnt start ! So today i bought a battery starter an alternator and this piece of S**t still doesnt wanna start after its been driven for a while. I think the starter is heating up and once it cools down it will start fine. Will a high torque mini starter solve this? __________________ 302 out of a lincoln lsc, Cobra upper and lower, 1.6 rr's, msd cap, bbk equal lengths, off road h pipe, mac pro chambers, 4:10's, bbk drag launch springs, 4cylinder tranny, short shifter, 20% tint, and 6k H.I.D's. 13.13@101mph 1.8 60ft on D/R's

March 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM	#4
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	is this the first time you have driven it since you replaced the pump? have you added coolant? there might be an air pocket in the line somewhere __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

March 30th, 2009, 01:25 AM	#6
AP Racing Newbie 1984 Mustang GT High 12s Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gilbert,AZ Posts: 45 iTrader: 0 reviews	it the starter and the high tq one will be nice but if you want to avoid it happening again soon buy a heat shield or some heat wrap. idk about the water thing mine has started to do the same thing, but it only get up to like the 3 line. __________________ 84 Mustang GT 5.0 5 Speed (RIP) 89 Mustang Lx 5.0 5 Speed Project Building to a Daily Driver to Highschool 12 Sec Nitrous Street Strip Car

March 30th, 2009, 01:35 AM	#7
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	tfi module, but my car did the same thing when the starter solenoid went bad, both are cheap as hell to replace __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 30th, 2009, 10:25 AM	#10
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	Yeah that no avy is sick hatch... don't ever be ashamed of your body __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

March 30th, 2009, 12:40 AM	#2
The Novice Hardcore Enthusiast 87 Mustang GT T-top Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 1,149 iTrader: 0 reviews	Could get an aftermarket Water. Temp Gauge. if ya have the extra money a good idea imo, b/c they are more actuate but how long do ya have to drive it before it gets hot. Doesnt really make sense to me, its not like the Starter is on all the time....Weird. hopefully someone will chime in soon to help.

March 30th, 2009, 10:14 AM	#8
gotn20 Atomized Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,370 iTrader: 0 reviews	hatch i'm loving that avy man

March 30th, 2009, 11:53 AM	#11
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks guys, hearing stuff like that makes me want to put clothes on and go out in public... almost __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

March 30th, 2009, 02:50 PM	#12
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	little steps __________________ "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

March 30th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#13
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	I got 20 bucks says its batery cables. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

March 30th, 2009, 05:07 PM	#14
J0rn3z Regular 1995 Nissan 240sx Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 185 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine did the same thing (aside from it being a 351w) It would crank perfectly then id drive it for about 10-20minutes and go to crank it and it wouldnt until it cooled down, replaced my starter solenoid and it starts everytime..unless my battery was dead, but thats a different problem. On a latter note, Does it click when you go to crank it? __________________ 1995 Nissan 240sx. Coilovers, intake, full 3in exhaust, RUCAS, J30vlsd, 1 piece drive shaft, Q45 Front brakes, short throw, subframe collar bushings.

March 30th, 2009, 11:46 PM	#17
jtyson8602 Regular 1986 LX none yet Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Albuquerque New Mexico Posts: 277 iTrader: 0 reviews	try heat shielding the starter first. probably the cheapest option. I also had this problem before and it was a combination of too much heat and not charging enough

March 31st, 2009, 10:46 AM	#19
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	shouldnt have to heat shield the starter. there is some other problem __________________

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