tf topend kit

hmotes · January 20th, 2007, 11:29 PM

how much rwhp would i be at with the TF topend kit on a stock 302?

Wertzy · January 20th, 2007, 11:33 PM

Which kit do you want to know about? Street or Track?

hmotes · January 21st, 2007, 01:42 AM

the street

but what exactly is the difference?

Wertzy · January 21st, 2007, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by hmotes

the street

but what exactly is the difference?

I think the track heat kit has different upper and lower manifolds. I could be wrong though.

1slo5.0 · January 21st, 2007, 02:26 PM

Yes the difference is the intake. I would suggest putting your own kit together because the cam they offer with the kit is a bit on the small side for the rest of the combination. I would run the Track Heat or R-series intake with the Twisted Wedge heads and the TFS-51402001 cam. I've made 320+ horsepower at the wheels many times with this combination.

89BEAR · January 21st, 2007, 04:05 PM

Darrell,

How does the AFR 165'S and e303 match up or would you
suggest another cam for these heads as I head they are
awsome from quality to performance

1slo5.0 · January 21st, 2007, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by 89BEAR

Darrell,

How does the AFR 165'S and e303 match up or would you
suggest another cam for these heads as I head they are
awsome from quality to performance

I'd use something a little bit bigger like one of the TFS cams.

ih8chevy · January 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM

i kno someone who used afr 185's a custom ground cam with similar specs to the trick flow stage 2 and a some suspension work and was hittin 11's all day on the stock 302 block

lineumup88 · January 21st, 2007, 06:57 PM

afr 185's and a e-cam is a good combo. i have a friend that has this combo with a holley systemax intake that puts down 328 rwhp on a stock bottom end. there are a ton of good combos out there. shop around!

hmotes · January 21st, 2007, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Yes the difference is the intake. I would suggest putting your own kit together because the cam they offer with the kit is a bit on the small side for the rest of the combination. I would run the Track Heat or R-series intake with the Twisted Wedge heads and the TFS-51402001 cam. I've made 320+ horsepower at the wheels many times with this combination.

this kit will be going on the stock bottom end. I want to be able to just install the kit without having to notch the pistons. Also this car is my daily driver.

5-0stank · January 21st, 2007, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Yes the difference is the intake. I would suggest putting your own kit together because the cam they offer with the kit is a bit on the small side for the rest of the combination. I would run the Track Heat or R-series intake with the Twisted Wedge heads and the TFS-51402001 cam. I've made 320+ horsepower at the wheels many times with this combination.

Darrell, im looking to use the cam you mentioned in my 351w roller along with the r-series intake and twisted wedge heads. will the cam be ok with the stock pistons and 1.6 rockers? also, do you know what length pushrod i will need w/ these heads?

thanks

89BEAR · January 22nd, 2007, 05:09 AM

Is there a big difference to ported cnc heads in hp gains? I
was looking at TF and AFR with a litttle
heavier cam, but hard to find a good combo when there are so
many choices. Anyone have suggestions

1slo5.0 · January 22nd, 2007, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by hmotes

this kit will be going on the stock bottom end. I want to be able to just install the kit without having to notch the pistons. Also this car is my daily driver.

I've run the TFS stage 2 cam on many stock short blocks and never had to notch pistons.

1slo5.0 · January 22nd, 2007, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by 5-0stank

Darrell, im looking to use the cam you mentioned in my 351w roller along with the r-series intake and twisted wedge heads. will the cam be ok with the stock pistons and 1.6 rockers? also, do you know what length pushrod i will need w/ these heads?

thanks

Should be ok but you should always check valve to piston clearance. Buy a pushrod length checker to determine what length pushrods you need. That is the best way to do it.

1slo5.0 · January 22nd, 2007, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by 89BEAR

Is there a big difference to ported cnc heads in hp gains? I
was looking at TF and AFR with a litttle
heavier cam, but hard to find a good combo when there are so
many choices. Anyone have suggestions

Yes there is a big difference. More airflow equals more power, always. An internal combustion engine is nothing more than an air pump. Air in, air out equals horsepower.

89BEAR · January 22nd, 2007, 08:51 AM

So, if I go with TF twisted wedge heads CNC porting and stage 2
TFS cam, this would set up well. Could you recommend the TF heads
I would need being ported and assembled so all I have to do is
basically bolt them on and go. I appreciate your help

JBIGBOOTSY · January 22nd, 2007, 09:08 AM

Trick flow heads are one of the only 2.02 valve heads that work on a stock 87up bottom end.

1slo5.0 · January 22nd, 2007, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by 89BEAR

So, if I go with TF twisted wedge heads CNC porting and stage 2
TFS cam, this would set up well. Could you recommend the TF heads
I would need being ported and assembled so all I have to do is
basically bolt them on and go. I appreciate your help

If you are going to spend the money on the CNC ported heads I'd spend the money and get a custom cam from Cam Motion or Camshaft Innovations.

89BEAR · January 22nd, 2007, 07:40 PM

Thanks Darrell and I have sent cam motion an email.... can
they custom fit a cam for the setup I am describing without
giving them exact specs?

Thanks

hmotes · January 22nd, 2007, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

I've run the TFS stage 2 cam on many stock short blocks and never had to notch pistons.

so i should run the kit with the stage 2 instead?

January 20th, 2007, 11:29 PM	#1
hmotes Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 98 iTrader: 0 reviews	tf topend kit how much rwhp would i be at with the TF topend kit on a stock 302?

January 21st, 2007, 02:26 PM	#5
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yes the difference is the intake. I would suggest putting your own kit together because the cam they offer with the kit is a bit on the small side for the rest of the combination. I would run the Track Heat or R-series intake with the Twisted Wedge heads and the TFS-51402001 cam. I've made 320+ horsepower at the wheels many times with this combination. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

January 21st, 2007, 06:57 PM	#9
lineumup88 Ask All My Baby's Mommas Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: hampton va Posts: 276 iTrader: 3 reviews	afr 185's and a e-cam is a good combo. i have a friend that has this combo with a holley systemax intake that puts down 328 rwhp on a stock bottom end. there are a ton of good combos out there. shop around! __________________ hey chevy boy.....i got something for you to POWERSTROKE! Warning: surgeon general says its ok to smoke ricers!

January 22nd, 2007, 09:08 AM	#17
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trick flow heads are one of the only 2.02 valve heads that work on a stock 87up bottom end. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

January 20th, 2007, 11:33 PM	#2
Wertzy Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oil City, PA Posts: 15 iTrader: 0 reviews	Which kit do you want to know about? Street or Track?

January 21st, 2007, 01:42 AM	#3
hmotes Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 98 iTrader: 0 reviews	the street but what exactly is the difference?

January 21st, 2007, 04:05 PM	#6
89BEAR Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 36 iTrader: 0 reviews	Darrell, How does the AFR 165'S and e303 match up or would you suggest another cam for these heads as I head they are awsome from quality to performance

January 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM	#8
ih8chevy Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 151 iTrader: 0 reviews	i kno someone who used afr 185's a custom ground cam with similar specs to the trick flow stage 2 and a some suspension work and was hittin 11's all day on the stock 302 block

January 22nd, 2007, 05:09 AM	#12
89BEAR Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 36 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is there a big difference to ported cnc heads in hp gains? I was looking at TF and AFR with a litttle heavier cam, but hard to find a good combo when there are so many choices. Anyone have suggestions

January 22nd, 2007, 08:51 AM	#16
89BEAR Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 36 iTrader: 0 reviews	So, if I go with TF twisted wedge heads CNC porting and stage 2 TFS cam, this would set up well. Could you recommend the TF heads I would need being ported and assembled so all I have to do is basically bolt them on and go. I appreciate your help

January 22nd, 2007, 07:40 PM	#19
89BEAR Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 36 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks Darrell and I have sent cam motion an email.... can they custom fit a cam for the setup I am describing without giving them exact specs? Thanks

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