? for ppl using nitrous

1slo5.0 · April 28th, 2009, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

So what timing would you recommend to start my motor at? I knowi will have to play with it at the track, but whatwould be a good starting point? 11.5 compression351 with a world Windsor sr head 850 carb.

Start at 32 degrees. From there you have to see what the engine likes.

MustangMatt96GT · April 28th, 2009, 12:04 PM

Sounds good. Thanks man

mikegilbert810 · April 28th, 2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by grnstang

yeah...im the type of guy that wants the most power as i can so I would always be changing my timing if i was spraying. but i have the SCT 4 bank chip so i will just switch tunes when i have nitrous on my car ; )

well I got a msd box but I don't know if it's one that will retard timing or not. Do u know any model numbers so I can check. How much for that chip?

mikegilbert810 · April 28th, 2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

One step colder plugs is all you will need and they will be fine for normal driving as well. Timing is easy. Retard it before you spray. Then move it back to normal when you are not spraying.

do u have to use a timing light?

grnstang · April 28th, 2009, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by mikegilbert810

well I got a msd box but I don't know if it's one that will retard timing or not. Do u know any model numbers so I can check. How much for that chip?

the chip is around 260 bucks i think. check on Mustang Parts & Performance - American Muscle

1slo5.0 · April 28th, 2009, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by mikegilbert810

do u have to use a timing light?

Yes, always use a timing light when setting timing.

GoodOleBoyzRacin · April 28th, 2009, 11:04 PM

you can use a window switch to do this as well.

1slo5.0 · April 28th, 2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by GoodOleBoyzRacin

you can use a window switch to do this as well.

To pull timing out????

mikegilbert810 · April 28th, 2009, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by grnstang

the chip is around 260 bucks i think. check on Mustang Parts & Performance - American Muscle

thanx man

mikegilbert810 · April 29th, 2009, 09:27 AM

[QUOTE=grnstang;2027284]yeah...im the type of guy that wants the most power as i can so I would always be changing my timing if i was spraying. but i have the SCT 4 bank chip so i will just switch tunes when i have nitrous on my car ; )[

Is this chip for factory computer

superbean · April 29th, 2009, 10:01 AM

If it's a fuel injected car look into chip burning. With a socketed ecu, you can run an emulator from companies like moates.. it's a live feed emulator that can make changes on the fly when paired with a nice computer program like tunerpro RT. It uses a definition file to locate coolant temp sesnors correction maps, 02 correction, maf correction, timing and fuel adjustments. The easy to read graph is self explanitory, just start conservative and pull timing for nitrous runs. What's cool is if you have multiple maps saved, you can open the file for nitrous in 5 seconds and your timing is good to go and not even have to put the timing light on it(even though I would suggest it)

Socket - 10 bucks
Bag of chips - 20 bucks
Chip burner - 180
Tunerpro RT software - 30 bucks
Old lap top - 300 bucks

I ran those on my nissans and Im sure that the ford ecu is similar in how it can be edited.

cheers

grnstang · April 29th, 2009, 10:38 AM

[quote=mikegilbert810;2029919]

Originally Posted by grnstang

yeah...im the type of guy that wants the most power as i can so I would always be changing my timing if i was spraying. but i have the SCT 4 bank chip so i will just switch tunes when i have nitrous on my car ; )[

Is this chip for factory computer

yes it is. but i recommend getting a dyno tune and having the tuner burn a tune or up to 4 different tunes and your car will perform tremendously. If you dont want a dyno tune I believe you can get in touch with SCT when you order the chip and they will send you the chip with a tune(s) already burnt on it but I dont think it will be as good as a dyno tune. i recommend dyno tuning especially for people who run nitrous just so you can flip the switch and your car will be as ready as it can be for the spray.

mikegilbert810 · April 29th, 2009, 07:35 PM

right on guys thanx for all the replys, really helpful !!

QTRHORSE · April 29th, 2009, 08:12 PM

I run a MSD 6AL box and a MSD multi-step retard box! The multi-step can retard timing in 3 diff stages! I pull 2 degrees on stage 1 75 shot and and 4 more on stage 2 100 shot! alot of people use the third timing retard for starting the engine! Always run at least one range colder plug & if you can afford it racing feul when you know your gonna run alot of nitrous! I do, Its a cheap insurance policy against blown head gaskets and detonation! Like the others said ALWAYS pull 2 degrees per 50 shot or 1 degree per 25 shot! Get the timing computer and always have your timing on spot! If a 2010 Camaro pulls up next to you, you wanna be able to give it your all! Dont let our bread down!!!! lol

This is on my 93 mustang not the 08

April 28th, 2009, 12:04 PM	#22
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Sounds good. Thanks man __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

April 28th, 2009, 11:04 PM	#27
GoodOleBoyzRacin Regular 1990 Mustang GT 13.64 @ 101 MPH Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 324 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can use a window switch to do this as well. __________________ 90 Ford Mustang 5.0 T5- BROKE 1.9 60' on street tires13.64 @ 101 MPH 89 Ford Mustang coupe- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIrzcQz3_8

April 29th, 2009, 10:01 AM	#31
superbean Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Cobra 13.24@105.66 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,778 iTrader: 0 reviews	If it's a fuel injected car look into chip burning. With a socketed ecu, you can run an emulator from companies like moates.. it's a live feed emulator that can make changes on the fly when paired with a nice computer program like tunerpro RT. It uses a definition file to locate coolant temp sesnors correction maps, 02 correction, maf correction, timing and fuel adjustments. The easy to read graph is self explanitory, just start conservative and pull timing for nitrous runs. What's cool is if you have multiple maps saved, you can open the file for nitrous in 5 seconds and your timing is good to go and not even have to put the timing light on it(even though I would suggest it) Socket - 10 bucks Bag of chips - 20 bucks Chip burner - 180 Tunerpro RT software - 30 bucks Old lap top - 300 bucks I ran those on my nissans and Im sure that the ford ecu is similar in how it can be edited. cheers __________________ weeee foooord!

April 29th, 2009, 08:12 PM	#34
QTRHORSE Regular 2008 Mustang GT 11.35@123 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Johnson City Posts: 382 iTrader: 0 reviews	I run a MSD 6AL box and a MSD multi-step retard box! The multi-step can retard timing in 3 diff stages! I pull 2 degrees on stage 1 75 shot and and 4 more on stage 2 100 shot! alot of people use the third timing retard for starting the engine! Always run at least one range colder plug & if you can afford it racing feul when you know your gonna run alot of nitrous! I do, Its a cheap insurance policy against blown head gaskets and detonation! Like the others said ALWAYS pull 2 degrees per 50 shot or 1 degree per 25 shot! Get the timing computer and always have your timing on spot! If a 2010 Camaro pulls up next to you, you wanna be able to give it your all! Dont let our bread down!!!! lol This is on my 93 mustang not the 08 __________________ CRT-Performance Tuned by Jeff Chambers in Norwalk Ohio, 2.6 Kenne Bell, 62mm T-Body, LT Headers, O/R H-pipe, 4.10s, Foxlake CNC Heads, VSR Stage 2 cams 530/447 Mustang Dyno www.crt-performance.com Last edited by QTRHORSE; April 29th, 2009 at 08:15 PM.

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April 29th, 2009, 09:27 AM	#30
mikegilbert810 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 reviews	[QUOTE=grnstang;2027284]yeah...im the type of guy that wants the most power as i can so I would always be changing my timing if i was spraying. but i have the SCT 4 bank chip so i will just switch tunes when i have nitrous on my car ; )[ Is this chip for factory computer

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mikegilbert810 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 reviews	right on guys thanx for all the replys, really helpful !!

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