Intake Gaskets suck...

fastford3388 · May 6th, 2009, 02:25 AM

i just put an explorer intake on about 2 months ago and now the stupid rubber seal on the front of the lower intake starts to leak....

is there an easier fix for this?
if i have to pull the upper and lower intake off, does anyone have suggestions on how to prevent this from happening again?

Iwannagofast · May 6th, 2009, 02:44 AM

i wud at least try to silicone it or something first

trill gear head · May 6th, 2009, 03:31 AM

quit being lazy and just replace it with a new gasket. They arn't hard to replace.

Notcho · May 6th, 2009, 04:07 AM

Possibly get a better quality gasket from your Ford dealer instead of a cheap Auto Zone imitation.

I replaced a few original 1989 seals on my car with 230k miles... the diff pinion seal and the T-5 tranny output shaft seal. I used Auto Zone seals.. I figured hell they had them in stock and they were only a few bucks each. I installed them and drove the car down the road, about 1 mile. Oil was already running out of them.

I was PISSED. But, I decided to bite the bullet.. went to my local FORD dealer, ordered the seals for about $20 EACH, and put them in. NO leaks at all. Its been about 30k miles since then, and still no leaks.

If you buy cheap parts to fix something, you will end up having to REdo it, and buy the quality stuff anyway.

My motto is:
"Buying cheap merchandise to save money is like stopping a clock to save time."

TKOTLARZ · May 6th, 2009, 10:14 AM

did u use the one that came on the intake? cause that would be y its leakin..use some rtv on the front and back of the lower intake...thats how it is on my car and works great for me

1slo5.0 · May 6th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by fastford3388

i just put an explorer intake on about 2 months ago and now the stupid rubber seal on the front of the lower intake starts to leak....

is there an easier fix for this?
if i have to pull the upper and lower intake off, does anyone have suggestions on how to prevent this from happening again?

Next time throw those rubber end gaskets out and use a thick bead of RTV. Make sure you set the intake on while the RTV is still wet.

superbean · May 6th, 2009, 12:33 PM

fel pro gasket and a gracious dab in the corners of the valley seal

baine21225 · May 6th, 2009, 12:49 PM

+1

fastford3388 · May 6th, 2009, 02:18 PM

This was no cheap gasket...

I purchased the fel-pro head set. Fel-pro is good stuff. it was the rubber ones not cork.

its just such a pain to seat them right... its a lot of work to do that lower set again.

I'm gonna RTV the hell out of it and see what happens. worst case scenario i buy a new set and use tons of RTV next time...

thanks guys

88-gt-t-top · May 6th, 2009, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Next time throw those rubber end gaskets out and use a thick bead of RTV. Make sure you set the intake on while the RTV is still wet.

Just to clearify... is the RTV instead of the gasket(no gasket at all)? Also I've heard that it's best to let the RTV sit for a few minutes and get "tacky", is this an old wives tale? Or just simply not true.

Smirnoff · May 6th, 2009, 03:34 PM

theres no need to use those rubber gaskets just use a nice thick bead o black rtv and your good

PJC Racing · May 6th, 2009, 04:14 PM

Don't use the front and rear seal pieces that come with intake gaskets. Even if they are some type of rubber they are prone to leaking. Ditch those pieces and uses some sort of RTV, I prefer Permatex "Right Stuff"

nolife · May 6th, 2009, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by fastford3388

This was no cheap gasket...

I purchased the fel-pro head set. Fel-pro is good stuff. it was the rubber ones not cork.

its just such a pain to seat them right... its a lot of work to do that lower set again.

I'm gonna RTV the hell out of it and see what happens. worst case scenario i buy a new set and use tons of RTV next time...

thanks guys

More is not better at all

The stuff that squirts out is not doing you any good (maybe short term it is) and if too much squirts out, it will break away and be floating around in your oil/coolant.

Think of RTV and gaskets like leveling materail used on cerarmic tile floors or putty/body filler on a body part. It is only there to smooth out the imperfections between two layers, not provide support or for a buildup.

dr.gonzo! · May 6th, 2009, 04:57 PM

I used the rubber ones with a thick bead of rtv under the rubber, no problems.

1slo5.0 · May 6th, 2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by fastford3388

This was no cheap gasket...

I purchased the fel-pro head set. Fel-pro is good stuff. it was the rubber ones not cork.

its just such a pain to seat them right... its a lot of work to do that lower set again.

I'm gonna RTV the hell out of it and see what happens. worst case scenario i buy a new set and use tons of RTV next time...

thanks guys

Make sure you do not use the end gaskets when you use RTV. That is the correct way to do it and have it leak free. 90% of shops that do Ford intake gaskets do it this way, including dealerships.

1slo5.0 · May 6th, 2009, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by 88-gt-t-top

Just to clearify... is the RTV instead of the gasket(no gasket at all)? Also I've heard that it's best to let the RTV sit for a few minutes and get "tacky", is this an old wives tale? Or just simply not true.

Correct, no end gasket. RTV with the end gaskets will cause them to squeeze out and/or leak most of the time. I never let the RTV get tacky. I want it to firmly attach to the bottom of the intake so it doesn't leak.

flyin ryan · May 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM

rtv for the win

ViperblueGT · May 6th, 2009, 09:17 PM

+2 rtv no gasket

88-gt-t-top · May 7th, 2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Correct, no end gasket. RTV with the end gaskets will cause them to squeeze out and/or leak most of the time. I never let the RTV get tacky. I want it to firmly attach to the bottom of the intake so it doesn't leak.

OK, you were referring to those gaskets that are on front and back... trans side and distibutor side. Sorry if I'm not grasping this concept to quikly.

MustangMatt96GT · May 7th, 2009, 11:04 AM

peramtex great stuff. FTW

May 6th, 2009, 02:25 AM	#1
fastford3388 Regular 1991 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 367 iTrader: 0 reviews	Intake Gaskets suck... i just put an explorer intake on about 2 months ago and now the stupid rubber seal on the front of the lower intake starts to leak.... is there an easier fix for this? if i have to pull the upper and lower intake off, does anyone have suggestions on how to prevent this from happening again? __________________ - '90 Mustang LX-Sold "Debbie" - '89 Mustang GT- Deceased "Lucy" - '91 Mustang GT-70,000 mi "The Unicorn"

May 6th, 2009, 04:07 AM	#4
Notcho No bucks, no Buck Rogers Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Braunfels, Tex / Seguin, Tex Posts: 4,849 iTrader: 0 reviews	Possibly get a better quality gasket from your Ford dealer instead of a cheap Auto Zone imitation. I replaced a few original 1989 seals on my car with 230k miles... the diff pinion seal and the T-5 tranny output shaft seal. I used Auto Zone seals.. I figured hell they had them in stock and they were only a few bucks each. I installed them and drove the car down the road, about 1 mile. Oil was already running out of them. I was PISSED. But, I decided to bite the bullet.. went to my local FORD dealer, ordered the seals for about $20 EACH, and put them in. NO leaks at all. Its been about 30k miles since then, and still no leaks. If you buy cheap parts to fix something, you will end up having to REdo it, and buy the quality stuff anyway. My motto is: "Buying cheap merchandise to save money is like stopping a clock to save time." __________________ '87 2.3 Notch with +4 cylinder mod MM's Resident Aggie Black Stang Crew Member #11

May 6th, 2009, 10:14 AM	#5
TKOTLARZ Hardcore Enthusiast 1994 GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lake worth, Florida Posts: 1,002 iTrader: 0 reviews	did u use the one that came on the intake? cause that would be y its leakin..use some rtv on the front and back of the lower intake...thats how it is on my car and works great for me __________________ Cohagan Engineering, Inc.

May 6th, 2009, 12:33 PM	#7
superbean Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Cobra 13.24@105.66 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,778 iTrader: 0 reviews	fel pro gasket and a gracious dab in the corners of the valley seal __________________ weeee foooord!

May 6th, 2009, 12:49 PM	#8
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,338 iTrader: 1 reviews	+1 __________________ "Whip out your dick you'll either get it sucked or get smacked..." "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

May 6th, 2009, 02:18 PM	#9
fastford3388 Regular 1991 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 367 iTrader: 0 reviews	This was no cheap gasket... I purchased the fel-pro head set. Fel-pro is good stuff. it was the rubber ones not cork. its just such a pain to seat them right... its a lot of work to do that lower set again. I'm gonna RTV the hell out of it and see what happens. worst case scenario i buy a new set and use tons of RTV next time... thanks guys __________________ - '90 Mustang LX-Sold "Debbie" - '89 Mustang GT- Deceased "Lucy" - '91 Mustang GT-70,000 mi "The Unicorn"

May 6th, 2009, 03:34 PM	#11
Smirnoff Enthusiast 1982 GT t-top no proof of purchase Join Date: May 2008 Location: N.E.PA Posts: 717 iTrader: 0 reviews	theres no need to use those rubber gaskets just use a nice thick bead o black rtv and your good

May 6th, 2009, 04:14 PM	#12
PJC Racing Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Don't use the front and rear seal pieces that come with intake gaskets. Even if they are some type of rubber they are prone to leaking. Ditch those pieces and uses some sort of RTV, I prefer Permatex "Right Stuff" __________________ 89 LX Coupe: Factory 5.0, common performance and suspension bolt-ons (306 build inprogress) 86 GT: (current 1/4 project) will have primarily Team Z suspension and chassis additions, 408 with nitrous in the works Last edited by PJC Racing; May 6th, 2009 at 05:19 PM.

May 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM	#17
flyin ryan Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,387 iTrader: 0 reviews	rtv for the win

May 6th, 2009, 09:17 PM	#18
ViperblueGT Newbie 1988 mustang GT 13.06@106.09 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	+2 rtv no gasket __________________ 88 mustang 5.0 e7 heads edelbrock intake mezeire electric water pump... electric fan... f cam 4.10 gears t-5 tranny best pass 13.06 @ 106.09

May 7th, 2009, 11:04 AM	#20
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	peramtex great stuff. FTW __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

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