afr heads

CAMN89GT · May 14th, 2009, 07:29 PM

I ran AFR for a while.... then I switched to TFS. AFR's are for little boys.

grnstang · May 14th, 2009, 07:34 PM

what about canfields?? what do you guys think of canfield 195's

coreyflipp · May 14th, 2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by grnstang

what about canfields?? what do you guys think of canfield 195's

I've never had anything but the almighty e7's so I'm not speaking from experience, but from reading quotes by jay allen on sbftech and other people they seem to be a really really high flowing, make high horsepower head. Prolly about the best bang for the buck. I'm at a tossup between canfields 195's and tf 185's.

Sleeper_Stang_89 · May 14th, 2009, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by grnstang

what about canfields?? what do you guys think of canfield 195's

awesome head....

baine21225 · May 14th, 2009, 10:16 PM

canfield is a quality product as well

blue90lx · May 14th, 2009, 11:36 PM

Ok talked to a guy on another site he has the twisted wedge heads, stock bottom end 302, trick flow track heat intake,AFM N41 cam, and on motor he only ran a 12.91. I'm already running these #'s with stock e-7 heads. Then the guy added a 75 shot of nos and it ran a 12.21@111 mph. What the deal with that? Does he have issues or does the trick flow heads not make good power? I'm still stumped between which heads to go with myself.

grnstang · May 14th, 2009, 11:55 PM

thanks for the feedback guys

the guy running 12.90's cant drive or he is having some issues

95project · May 15th, 2009, 12:20 AM

DUDE...where the hell was this post a week ago????????

My 95 is having AFR 185's, custom cam and track heat upper and lower installed as we speak.....Everything i have read has said that the TF and the AFR are both great heads...but the AFR flow more....my mechanic told me that if i plan on a power adder down the road that the AFR 185 is the way to go. Muscle mustangs and fast fords did do a test on popular heads and the AFR out flowed the TF by quite a bit.....arent the AFR 185 all CNC'd? Wouldnt that be a huge + over the standard track heat heads?

I dont know...hope i didnt f^&% up. guess the only way to know is buy both and take them to the dyno on your exact set up....who can do that?

93mustank · May 15th, 2009, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by 95project

DUDE...where the hell was this post a week ago????????

but the AFR flow more....my mechanic told me that if i plan on a power adder down the road that the AFR 185 is the way to go. ?

Can you explain to me what makes a certain head great for a supercharged car minus the combustion chamber..........

Whats the avg Cross section of the AFR 185 compared to the TW 170???

flyin ryan · May 15th, 2009, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by 93mustank

Can you explain to me what makes a certain head great for a supercharged car minus the combustion chamber..........

the internets does.............

Go buy whatever want just don't complain when you get toasted by someone with the same combo except having tfs heads when you have your afr's

I'd also think about betting springs and studs as from my experience completely blow quality wise on afr's

JBIGBOOTSY · May 15th, 2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by blue90lx

Ok talked to a guy on another site he has the twisted wedge heads, stock bottom end 302, trick flow track heat intake,AFM N41 cam, and on motor he only ran a 12.91. I'm already running these #'s with stock e-7 heads. Then the guy added a 75 shot of nos and it ran a 12.21@111 mph. What the deal with that? Does he have issues or does the trick flow heads not make good power? I'm still stumped between which heads to go with myself.

Is there a diffrence in car setups? Gears, transmissions, suspension?

Sleeper_Stang_89 · May 15th, 2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

Is there a diffrence in car setups? Gears, transmissions, suspension?

I was thinking the same questions...

blue90lx · May 15th, 2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89

I was thinking the same questions...

Not sure about suspension, but he has 3:73 gears and a tremec trans. I also now another guy who bought a set years back and all he good get was a 12.95, but that was stock suspension and on micky thompson sportsman tires. Like i said in one of the post i've seen the afr perform and i havent seen the tfs perform, but from what i've seen and heard about the tfs it isn't performing JMO.

1slo5.0 · May 15th, 2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by grnstang

what about canfields?? what do you guys think of canfield 195's

Canfields are great heads. The Canfield head is very similar to the TFS High Port.

1slo5.0 · May 15th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by blue90lx

Ok talked to a guy on another site he has the twisted wedge heads, stock bottom end 302, trick flow track heat intake,AFM N41 cam, and on motor he only ran a 12.91. I'm already running these #'s with stock e-7 heads. Then the guy added a 75 shot of nos and it ran a 12.21@111 mph. What the deal with that? Does he have issues or does the trick flow heads not make good power? I'm still stumped between which heads to go with myself.

That guy either can't drive to save his ass or has a major issue somewhere. There is no reason why a 5 liter with aftermarket heads is only running 12.xx.

1slo5.0 · May 15th, 2009, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by 95project

DUDE...where the hell was this post a week ago????????

My 95 is having AFR 185's, custom cam and track heat upper and lower installed as we speak.....Everything i have read has said that the TF and the AFR are both great heads...but the AFR flow more....my mechanic told me that if i plan on a power adder down the road that the AFR 185 is the way to go. Muscle mustangs and fast fords did do a test on popular heads and the AFR out flowed the TF by quite a bit.....arent the AFR 185 all CNC'd? Wouldnt that be a huge + over the standard track heat heads?

I dont know...hope i didnt f^&% up. guess the only way to know is buy both and take them to the dyno on your exact set up....who can do that?

1. Find a new "mechanic" because your current mechanic is stupid.

2. Put the magazines down.

1slo5.0 · May 15th, 2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by blue90lx

Not sure about suspension, but he has 3:73 gears and a tremec trans. I also now another guy who bought a set years back and all he good get was a 12.95, but that was stock suspension and on micky thompson sportsman tires. Like i said in one of the post i've seen the afr perform and i havent seen the tfs perform, but from what i've seen and heard about the tfs it isn't performing JMO.

If you can't find TFS heads performing (more like dominating) then you must only be looking in an AFR infested race track. To say "TFS isn't performing" is rediculous. Its more like the other way around....

MustangMatt96GT · May 15th, 2009, 12:54 PM

TFS Wedge heads are two of the race cars in my racing group "Phast Phat Racing" the cars are 11.80s on motor at my altitude.... at sealevel they are low 11 second cars. one is a 306 with a 650 carb, and the other is a 347 EFI. Both have C4s with brakes, and LCA and UCA with slicks and skinnies. the 306 weighs 2600 pounds and the 347 is a full street car....

If I could afford them... I would have some TFS 205s, but i cant so ill stick with my World Seniors at the moment....

Nice 5.0 · May 15th, 2009, 04:16 PM

I always thought my car could be faster when i see stock headed cars running in the twelves. I have windsor jrs and a e cam and i ran 12.7 with a 1.7x sixty. I only launched at 4500 so i know i have some room for improvement. When i see 93mustank running 11.9 with gt 40's that make me think my car should be capable of 11's. I have a few more things i want to try with mine. I definatley need to raise the rpms on the launch and some suspensions mods. I want to crack 11's with this setup. We'll see what happens.

95opal · May 15th, 2009, 05:21 PM

AFR vs TFS the never ending argument. This is a waist of bandwith seriously.

May 14th, 2009, 07:29 PM	#61
CAMN89GT Banned 1988 Mustang Notch it's a bad bitch..i promise Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 980 iTrader: 0 reviews	I ran AFR for a while.... then I switched to TFS. AFR's are for little boys. __________________ '88 Notch ~ T-70 & Faceplated GForce! Tuned by [B][I][U]Kurgan Motorsports[/U][/I][/B]

May 14th, 2009, 07:34 PM	#62
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	what about canfields?? what do you guys think of canfield 195's __________________

May 14th, 2009, 10:16 PM	#65
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	canfield is a quality product as well __________________ "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

May 14th, 2009, 11:36 PM	#66
blue90lx Regular 90 lx hatch 12.83@105 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Albertville, Alabama Posts: 157 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok talked to a guy on another site he has the twisted wedge heads, stock bottom end 302, trick flow track heat intake,AFM N41 cam, and on motor he only ran a 12.91. I'm already running these #'s with stock e-7 heads. Then the guy added a 75 shot of nos and it ran a 12.21@111 mph. What the deal with that? Does he have issues or does the trick flow heads not make good power? I'm still stumped between which heads to go with myself. __________________ to many parts and money to be so slow

May 14th, 2009, 11:55 PM	#67
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	thanks for the feedback guys the guy running 12.90's cant drive or he is having some issues __________________

May 15th, 2009, 12:20 AM	#68
95project Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 609 iTrader: 0 reviews	DUDE...where the hell was this post a week ago???????? My 95 is having AFR 185's, custom cam and track heat upper and lower installed as we speak.....Everything i have read has said that the TF and the AFR are both great heads...but the AFR flow more....my mechanic told me that if i plan on a power adder down the road that the AFR 185 is the way to go. Muscle mustangs and fast fords did do a test on popular heads and the AFR out flowed the TF by quite a bit.....arent the AFR 185 all CNC'd? Wouldnt that be a huge + over the standard track heat heads? I dont know...hope i didnt f^&% up. guess the only way to know is buy both and take them to the dyno on your exact set up....who can do that? __________________ 95 GT- AFR 185's, Comp CAM, Trick FLow TH upper and lower, 30lb injec, 76MM C&L kit, Full MSD, BBK Pulleys, 3:73, BBK Long Tubes, X Pipe, Magnaflow Cat back, Cobra front control arms, MM CC plates LCA's and Panhard bar, tuned by Adam @ Pops Racing.

May 15th, 2009, 12:54 PM	#78
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	TFS Wedge heads are two of the race cars in my racing group "Phast Phat Racing" the cars are 11.80s on motor at my altitude.... at sealevel they are low 11 second cars. one is a 306 with a 650 carb, and the other is a 347 EFI. Both have C4s with brakes, and LCA and UCA with slicks and skinnies. the 306 weighs 2600 pounds and the 347 is a full street car.... If I could afford them... I would have some TFS 205s, but i cant so ill stick with my World Seniors at the moment.... __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 15th, 2009, 04:16 PM	#79
Nice 5.0 Regular 1993 12.9 @ 105 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 299 iTrader: 0 reviews	I always thought my car could be faster when i see stock headed cars running in the twelves. I have windsor jrs and a e cam and i ran 12.7 with a 1.7x sixty. I only launched at 4500 so i know i have some room for improvement. When i see 93mustank running 11.9 with gt 40's that make me think my car should be capable of 11's. I have a few more things i want to try with mine. I definatley need to raise the rpms on the launch and some suspensions mods. I want to crack 11's with this setup. We'll see what happens.

May 15th, 2009, 05:21 PM	#80
95opal Hardcore Enthusiast 95 opalfrost gt Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,516 iTrader: 0 reviews	AFR vs TFS the never ending argument. This is a waist of bandwith seriously. __________________ 5.0 magazines 94-04 performance mustangs feature car! Fall 2010

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