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Discussing Mustang idle surge and base idle reset in the 5.0 Mustangs Forum. Idle issues are common on these cars, especially 5-speed cars. EGR Valves, Idle Air ... Modded Mustangs is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. We discuss all aspects of the Ford Mustang on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free! |
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Zippee is my step sister.
1990 Mustang LX
9.36@143 mph
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Mustang idle surge and base idle reset
Idle issues are common on these cars, especially 5-speed cars. EGR Valves, Idle Air Bypass solenoids and Throttle Position Sensors are common causes. A bad connection with the 10 pin (salt and pepper shakers) black and white engine electrical connectors can also cause poor idle quality. To ensure a good connection on the 10 pin connectors a little modification can be done which is fairly easy and will cure some surging and hanging idle issues on 86-93 Mustangs and should be the first thing done when tackling any idle issues.
10 Pin Connector modification: 1. Take the 10 pin connectors apart (salt and pepper shakers). 2. use a pick like tool to spread the male terminals open more so they make better contact. In the center of each male terminal there is a small seam and seams down the sides of the terminal which allows you to spread them open. 3. Apply some dielectric grease to the terminals 4. Plug the connectors back in. Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) adjustment: Without the proper adjustment, the throttle position sensor (TPS) will give the computer false reading as to the exact throttle opening. A false reading will limit wide open throttle performance. A voltage reading must be taken using a digital volt/ohmmeter (DVOM) with the Key On/Engine Off and with the Key On/Engine Running. The TPS is located directly on top of the throttle body and is adjusted by loosening the two phillips mounting screws and swiveling the sensor until the highest reading is found. It may be necessary to elongate the holes with a small drill bit or small file to achieve the desired reading. The spec range for Key On is from .88 to 1.0 volt; shoot for the .90 to .98 volt. Make sure voltage reaches/exceeds 2.71v at WOT. Incorrect Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) voltage will result in reduced performance including a possible hanging/surging idle. The best way to take a TPS voltage reading is by using two safety pins through the wires coming from the sensor. The positive lead is attached to the green wire, while the negative goes to the black wire. Always ground the meter through the sensor's black wire. This gives a direct, and more accurate ground into the computer. Resetting the base idle: Clear the computer's idle memory by disconnecting the battery for 20+ minutes. -Disconnect the Idle Air Bypass solenoid -Reconnect battery -Start engine and set idle speed to desired RPM with idle screw on throttle body -Turn off engine and reconnect the air bypass solenoid -Set TPS voltage between 0.90 - 0.95 volts with a digital volt meter -Start engine and let it idle for 2 minutes with no accessories on. -Turn off engine for two minutes -Start engine again and run for 2 minutes with every accessory turned on. -Turn engine off again.
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1990 mustang gt
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: west palm beach,fl
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idle resets
thank you for this info.
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Location: Tulsa,Oklahoma
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I Should have looked at the 5.0 forum first lol, thanks helpful information fixed my v6 problem in a hurry
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1988 Mustang 5.0 LX
12.48@118.27
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Folsom, CA
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where is the skrew on the throttle body
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Zippee is my step sister.
1990 Mustang LX
9.36@143 mph
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Posts: 10,353
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Thanks to: Trick Flow, Team Z Motorsports, Total Engine Airflow and Furo Racecraft My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm....
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1988 GT
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: chicago
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Nice write up, I don't remember the older/longer one having a tip on making the TPS mounts any longer(room to swivel sensor).
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1988 Mustang GT Conv
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Alaska
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Well that answered one of my questions so far... Thanks
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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theres no issue with doing this with a modded car it wont delete the tune etc...
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Zippee is my step sister.
1990 Mustang LX
9.36@143 mph
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Posts: 10,353
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Thanks to: Trick Flow, Team Z Motorsports, Total Engine Airflow and Furo Racecraft My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm....
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Look Ma! My First Post!
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Solenoid Problem
I had the same problem in my car it is due to the year of the stang. it ended up being the solenoid. I bought all the parts needed online ofr $300
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