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e7s vs. windsor heads
i have a question with the e7s and the windsor heads? i would like to know what would be the pros and cons of the E7s vs. the WINDSOR head... thanks for the help
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you can make more power with a set of 351w heads...but not near as much as a good aftermarket....
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When I was n/a with a cobra intake fcam and p heads. I ran my buddies lx on welds with the same set up except w heads. He pulled a car or so on me only.
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drivers mod? lol jk
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Stan Weiss' - Cylinder Head Flow Data at 28 Inches of Water
stock e7 at .500 159/109 68.6% 63.9/66 189/196 .389/.328 327 hp 355 351w at .500 189/115 60.8% 71.1/61.7 211/183 .373/.271 389 hp 422 474 and 177/142 80.2% 66.6/76.2 197/226 .35/.335 364 hp 395 444 two 351w's out there im sure it goes by year but i dunno |
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nice lol. On a side note though, just average drivers.
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meh arent we all
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I'd throw a set of GT 40 heads on my ride if I were on that tight of a budget. You can get them at every junk yard and all over ebay and craigslist. Cheap heads that will outflow the shit out of an E7. The 351w heads are not worth a damn either. Unless they are like a 70 model or earlier I think. So, you do the math. Spend 200-300 hundred dollars on a set of GT40(p) heads at any junk yard any day of the week or spend days maybe weeks and alot more $ looking for a d0OE head.
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iam not sure what all of the head codes are i have a set of the windors head ready to go with 1.6 roller rockers. i know my friend ran the autolites 3924 spark plugs if this helps
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a 3926 is a hotter plug, it's what I run
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i have nitrous on my car so i need a colder plug
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<~~~ Runs a 125 shot on his turd with same above mentioned plug. So far so good. I spend more time off the bottle than i do on it, way more time.
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id close the gap some too
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what would you set the gap to
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This is not even worth discussing. The 69-70 Windsor head is better. All other Windsor heads are junk. GT40P heads are a better option if you are stuck on using a factory head.
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i wouldnt close the gap any more than .035 id go somewhere around .040
if your not running nitrious alot i would but a set for when you do...1 step colder gap them to .040 and keep another set, set to factory specs...i think its .055 |
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Ok. I'm sure if you look long enough you will find someone that says factory Windsor heads are the best thing since pierced nipples. The facts are that factory Windsor heads suck. The 69-70 (and maybe the 71) heads are ok but still not a GT40 head. All of the rest of the 351W heads are identical to the 302 heads except for the differnce in head bold hole diameter. 302 is 7/16 and 351W is 1/2. A 351W head requires a reducer bushing when used on a 302. As far as Pros and cons go, there are no pros to any 351W head other than the ones I listed. The only pro of an E7 head is it is better than the 351W heads (except the 69-70 C9-DO heads). The cons for both the 351W aned E7 heads are lengthy. Poor flow, small valves, small ports, etc.
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Darrell,
Can the GT40P heads be used on the 351W ? Just drill out the bolt holes right?
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Yeah, they could but why? You might as well keep a 302 if you are going to do that. There is no point in taking a cylinder head that is less than adequate for a 302 and putting it on an engine that is 16% bigger unless making power is not one of your goals. A 351 will not breath very well thru that head. More cubes needs bigger heads, bigger intake, etc.
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