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Old May 17th, 2009, 11:05 PM   #1
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Explorer intake manifold install questions.


Im just about to put my freshly painted upper and lower Explorer intake on my 93 5.0. I noticed my old manifold had what i guess was a intake temp sensor on the driver side of the lower manifold.(found close to the distributor). Theres no where to put this sensor on the explorer intake. the only holes that are on the explorer intake are close to the dist. and they are both tapped into the water passages. question is, is not having the sensor going to be any kind of issue? and the other question is the big hole found on the lower close to the firewall. there was a wool screen like thing that was in the hole and a tube coming out of it on the old intake. do i simply drop this screen thing in the new intake? i dont remember finding that screen thing on the explorer intake when i took it off the explorer.
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plug the sensor in and lay it next to the injectors
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Im just about to put my freshly painted upper and lower Explorer intake on my 93 5.0. I noticed my old manifold had what i guess was a intake temp sensor on the driver side of the lower manifold.(found close to the distributor). Theres no where to put this sensor on the explorer intake. the only holes that are on the explorer intake are close to the dist. and they are both tapped into the water passages. question is, is not having the sensor going to be any kind of issue? and the other question is the big hole found on the lower close to the firewall. there was a wool screen like thing that was in the hole and a tube coming out of it on the old intake. do i simply drop this screen thing in the new intake? i dont remember finding that screen thing on the explorer intake when i took it off the explorer.

If you can drill and tap the act. There is no screen because of the different baffling under the xplorer lower intake.
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If it is necessary to have this air temp sensor (or whatever it is) tapped into the new explorer intake what exactlly is this sensor called when i ask for it at the counter at advanced? mine is all gunked up and i dont think it would read anything if i put that nasty thing into the explorer intake. Im sure you all know what a pain in the ass it is to keep all these sensors working and in good shape for an stubborn EFI car. I just dont want to have any problems and want all my sensors to work properlly. No wonder people trade EFI for carbs.
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If it is necessary to have this air temp sensor (or whatever it is) tapped into the new explorer intake what exactlly is this sensor called when i ask for it at the counter at advanced? mine is all gunked up and i dont think it would read anything if i put that nasty thing into the explorer intake. Im sure you all know what a pain in the ass it is to keep all these sensors working and in good shape for an stubborn EFI car. I just dont want to have any problems and want all my sensors to work properlly. No wonder people trade EFI for carbs.
You need the sensor. You can just lay it on the intake but it looks more professional to drill and tap the intake.

If you think EFI is stubborn, I'd hate to see what you would say if you ran into problems with a carbureted car.
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act sensor it's like 14 bucks at autozone.
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You need the sensor. You can just lay it on the intake but it looks more professional to drill and tap the intake.

If you think EFI is stubborn, I'd hate to see what you would say if you ran into problems with a carbureted car.
efi > carbs

I only run carbs on my drag car.. but only because the cams I run would make a standard efi setup go gadzooks
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efi > carbs

I only run carbs on my drag car.. but only because the cams I run would make a standard efi setup go gadzooks
I doubt that. I've run some pretty healthy cams with EFI.
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i love my EFI motor and id never trade if for a carb, but my car has some miles on it and some of the sensors are old and junked up. While changing my intake manifold to the explorer intake i noticed the fuel injector harness on the passenger side was stiff. Some of the wires actually cracked while moving them out of the way for the intake swap. So I guess now is a good time to run all the wires I can through the fenders since i have to rebuild the injector harness on the pass side. My longtubes got rusty in about a year of having them on. I got some of that header paint to recoat them. supposed to be good to like 2000 deg but well see how they hold up i guess. Id like to get some header wrap to keep the heat contained so i dont run into any more stiff wires and vac. lines that crumble in my hands, but i heard that wraping the headers will make them rust faster. what do u guys think i can do? And no i cant afford ceramic headers.
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send em out to get jetcoated....or spray the "ceramic over the counter spraypaint" and bake them in the over to cure the ceramic paint before you reinstall, otherwise it will just flake off when you run the car for a few minutes.
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I doubt that. I've run some pretty healthy cams with EFI.
Not saying that they wont work.. but I just hate having to go have the car tuned after small upgrades
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Originally Posted by superbean View Post
Not saying that they wont work.. but I just hate having to go have the car tuned after small upgrades
So go with a megasquirt and tune it yo'self.
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So go with a megasquirt and tune it yo'self.
I thought about it. I can do chip emulation off the stock ecu but I would rather let guys with lots of experience milk the power out of it.

Drag cars are drag cars for me. I just crank them up and run em hard and let them sit for a while. no need for fancy efi $$$ stuff. Carbs work just fine.

But EFI on my daily. No way in hell I would run a carb again.
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Not saying that they wont work.. but I just hate having to go have the car tuned after small upgrades
Tuned for what? You lost me with the having the car tuned after small upgrades. The only tuning I've ever did on my EFI cars was with a screw driver, timing light and distributor wrench....oh and a race track.
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Tuned for what? You lost me with the having the car tuned after small upgrades. The only tuning I've ever did on my EFI cars was with a screw driver, timing light and distributor wrench....oh and a race track.
something as simple as an injector swap. Maf's calibrated for large injectors never seem to work out for my friends and I. So to fix this, it often takes a trip to a dyno and have the ecu chipped for 36 lb inj ect.

Not arguing that fuel injection isn't any good, I just think carbs are easier for track use, that's all.

And when you start with a 2.3 car, it's expensive to gather everything needed to support a 400whp engine as nothing is there to start with. Nothing beats a 300 $ intake and 400$ carb to get going. I would have spent that much in the intake alone.
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something as simple as an injector swap. Maf's calibrated for large injectors never seem to work out for my friends and I. So to fix this, it often takes a trip to a dyno and have the ecu chipped for 36 lb inj ect.

Not arguing that fuel injection isn't any good, I just think carbs are easier for track use, that's all.

And when you start with a 2.3 car, it's expensive to gather everything needed to support a 400whp engine as nothing is there to start with. Nothing beats a 300 $ intake and 400$ carb to get going. I would have spent that much in the intake alone.
That is where you lost me. You went from saying " the cams I run would make a standard efi setup go gadzooks" to "Not saying that they wont work.. but I just hate having to go have the car tuned after small upgrades". You are running a pretty mild. You can run any cam you want with EFI but a cam that works good with EFI will probably not work good with a carb and vice versa due to runner length and intake pulsing. But as far as actually running and driving, any cam will work. I ran a .705 lift solid roller with EFI and it purred like a kitten.
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Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 View Post
I ran a .705 lift solid roller with EFI and it purred like a kitten.
like a choppy, king of the jungle, lion type kitten?
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like a choppy, king of the jungle, lion type kitten?
It was pretty smooth actually. I know I posted a video of it on here before.
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