[LXpat93]

im doing a 5.0 swap soon as my buddy is giving me a 93 cobra motor because he has a 93 cobra r motor for the cobra hes getting my question is if i get the input shaft ground down and the right pilot bearing would the four banger 5spd work ive been told i just need a stronger clutch and it will be fine is this true.

[flyin ryan]

so wait your buddy ripped the oem motor out of his 93 cobra to install an oem 93 cobra r motor? there the same damn thing aren't they

anyway you just need to get the right pilot bearing and you can rock the 4 banger 5 spd

[superbean]

no need to shave the input shaft at all. It does NOT ride in the crank like most people think.

Just order a pilot bearing for a 83 ford ranger diesel. like 12 bucks

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by LXpat93 im doing a 5.0 swap soon as my buddy is giving me a 93 cobra motor because he has a 93 cobra r motor for the cobra hes getting my question is if i get the input shaft ground down and the right pilot bearing would the four banger 5spd work ive been told i just need a stronger clutch and it will be fine is this true.

For starters, your buddy doesn't have an engine out of a 93 Cobra R. I'll bet a substantial amount of money on that because there were only 107 Cobra Rs built and the average Joe Blow on the street couldn't even think about buying one. Secondly, the Cobra R uses the exact same drivetrain (engine, transmission and rear end) as the street Cobra. There is NO DIFFERENCE between the engines.

The 4 cylinder trans will work, no need to grind the input shaft (which would be stupid anyway). You just need the correct pilot bearing. The gear ratios in a 4 cylinder trans are less than optimal for a 5 liter making that transmission a poor choice. In addition to that they are weaker than the V8 T5s. It would be foolish to use a 4 cylinder T5 in your car.

[superbean]

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 For starters, your buddy doesn't have an engine out of a 93 Cobra R. I'll bet a substantial amount of money on that because there were only 107 Cobra Rs built and the average Joe Blow on the street couldn't even think about buying one. Secondly, the Cobra R uses the exact same drivetrain (engine, transmission and rear end) as the street Cobra. There is NO DIFFERENCE between the engines. The 4 cylinder trans will work, no need to grind the input shaft (which would be stupid anyway). You just need the correct pilot bearing. The gear ratios in a 4 cylinder trans are less than optimal for a 5 liter making that transmission a poor choice. In addition to that they are weaker than the V8 T5s. It would be foolish to use a 4 cylinder T5 in your car.

LOL come on Darrell Im running a 4cyl trans under an estimated 350 whp car. I got money says it wont last 2 months

[LXpat93]

he checked the vin on the motor is was from a cobra r i know its the same motor but he just wants to put it in there just because its so rare. the 4cyl tranny is not ment to be permanent im going in the navy so im gonna use my sign on bonus to buy a tko 500 or 600 and a few other things. as long as four banger tranny will last a few month what kinda rear gears should i run.

[88-gt-t-top]

3.73

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by LXpat93 he checked the vin on the motor is was from a cobra r i know its the same motor but he just wants to put it in there just because its so rare. the 4cyl tranny is not ment to be permanent im going in the navy so im gonna use my sign on bonus to buy a tko 500 or 600 and a few other things. as long as four banger tranny will last a few month what kinda rear gears should i run.

This will be real easy to straighten out. Ask him for the number off the block and post it here. Better yet, take a picture of the casting number and post it. I'm sticking to my guns and calling BS on him.

[superbean]

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 This will be real easy to straighten out. Ask him for the number off the block and post it here. Better yet, take a picture of the casting number and post it. I'm sticking to my guns and calling BS on him.

oh no he didn't

Poor darrell, I bet he wishes he had a cobra r spec motor

[flyin ryan]

why wouldn't your buddy sell the r spec motor and purchase two other already built foxes with the money LOL this thread fails

[LXpat93]

a guy offered him 12k for it and its missing the cam and upper and lower intake but hes gotta 520 lift for it. what is fucked up is he gave it to another friend for his vert but he couldnt afford the swap so he gave it back the dumbass didnt think to see what kinda 5.0 it was and sold the upper and lower intake for 60 bucks and threw the cam i wanted to shank him of course this is the guy that blows a perfectly good motor up (even though it was a chevy motor) because he was bored. next time im over there ill take a pic of the casting number but anyway how long you think this tranny will last if im not to to hard on it?

[baine21225]

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0 This will be real easy to straighten out. Ask him for the number off the block and post it here. Better yet, take a picture of the casting number and post it. I'm sticking to my guns and calling BS on him.

[NOSfairlane]

i got a 4cyl trans in my 91 lx got 3.55 rear gears the car turns about 3000rpm at 80mph i think it is a little much it is VERY nasty on the street even with a good short throw youll never get through the gears quick enough trans has been in the car for at least 3 years now i run b&m trick shift fully synthetic in it may have helped

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by LXpat93 a guy offered him 12k for it and its missing the cam and upper and lower intake but hes gotta 520 lift for it. what is fucked up is he gave it to another friend for his vert but he couldnt afford the swap so he gave it back the dumbass didnt think to see what kinda 5.0 it was and sold the upper and lower intake for 60 bucks and threw the cam i wanted to shank him of course this is the guy that blows a perfectly good motor up (even though it was a chevy motor) because he was bored. next time im over there ill take a pic of the casting number but anyway how long you think this tranny will last if im not to to hard on it?

Somebody offered him $12,000 for an engine with no cam or intake and he didn't take it? Both people are stupid, the guy offering the money and the guy refusing to sell.

[LXpat93]

he doesnt need the money. my 4 banger runs at 3000 at 80 to. NOS what parts did you use to use the four banger tranny i know the pilot bearing and im pretty sure i need a bell housing any particular clutch that i should use.

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by LXpat93 he doesnt need the money. my 4 banger runs at 3000 at 80 to. NOS what parts did you use to use the four banger tranny i know the pilot bearing and im pretty sure i need a bell housing any particular clutch that i should use.

The pilot bearing is the only thing you need. The V8 bellhousing will work and any V8 clutch will work. Civics will be out running you with that trans.

[White Thunder]

darrell youve mastered talking shit and helping people!

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by White Thunder darrell youve mastered talking shit and helping people!

I'm an asshole and a shit talker because I don't sugar coat bullshit and tell people what they want to hear. I'd rather be an asshole than an idiot though. And I'd be an idiot if I told people what they want to hear so they would be happy.

[White Thunder]

hey bud im all for it....i trust you more than anyone else with this stuff...if i ever find one you'll be a huge help

[95StangMX]

dude skittle you gotta change your avatar pic.....I always go cross eyed looking at it...LOL seriously.......and I am sure Darrell is just sick of people getting on here giving bad info as are a bunch of us....I see people giving out info with NO first hand knowledge of mods of any kind, just trying to quote something they have heard or seen somewhere and its down right annoying. And darrell does know his shit...he has never steered me wrong nor anyone that I have seen and people still try to contest what he says or dont listen.....personally I like the "new" darrell...i mean 1slo5.0