Flaming River Steering Issue

MustangMatt96GT · May 31st, 2009, 09:36 PM

Well since I could not get my steering to work, I ordered up a Flaming River Manual Rack and Pinion for 94-04 cars. Turns out that I now need different outer tie rod ends (different thread than the stock ones). I also am going to have to buy one of there steering shafts or get an adapter.

Has anybody ever had the thread issue with fox body cars? Maybe my SN95 is just different than the Fox cars.

Also anybody used the adapter rather than the whole steering shaft?

Thanks

Matt

White Thunder · May 31st, 2009, 09:40 PM

can you rethread or is it bigger?

MustangMatt96GT · May 31st, 2009, 09:48 PM

not going to beable to rethread it... I wish it were that easy...

what a money pit this thing has become...

White Thunder · May 31st, 2009, 10:25 PM

its a bad ass money pit...im a fan....

MustangMatt96GT · May 31st, 2009, 10:26 PM

I am just sick and tired of it.... cannot wait for the first time i can pull it into the trailer knowing that the track is only 7 miles down the road...

White Thunder · May 31st, 2009, 10:32 PM

you need to get down to sea level dammit...i rememeber the first time i seen your times...i was like WTF that aint fast lol

MustangMatt96GT · May 31st, 2009, 10:38 PM

11.80s on motor would make me happy at this altitude... thats plenty fast for an 18 year old.

MustangMatt96GT · June 1st, 2009, 04:58 PM

Called Flaming River... and I have to buy a special shaft, because I used a SN95 car.

They also just told me to use a Tap on the inside of the outer tie rod to fix the issue of being the wrong thread. Hope this is correct.

But i ordered the shaft now too!

MustangMatt96GT · June 2nd, 2009, 12:37 AM

Look!!! The car turns left again!

now i just got to wait for my steering shaft from summit to come. And also got some offset rack bushings.

Then I can put the car back on the ground, and possibly take it to the alignment shop as is, or put the engine in it, and then take it to the alignment shop after the car runs...

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2009, 11:16 AM

You should have bought the kit, not just the rack. The kit comes with outer tie rod ends and the steering shaft.

Why do you want offset rack bushings? Do you need more oil pan clearance?

MustangMatt96GT · June 2nd, 2009, 11:24 AM

Bump steer issues is the reason I got the bushings. And I would have ordered a kit, if the had one for SN95 cars. But all the kits were for foxes and had a shorter wide rack and a different shaft. The SN95 shaft is a replacement from the colum back under the dash, where the kit that my friend got for his fox, was only half that to the rag joint.

I rethreaded the tie rods and set it up as stright as I can get it. And I can reuse my old bushings if it turns out I done need the off sets. Although not sure I shouldeven be worried about bump steer with the car being a drag only car, unless when I come back down on the front tires, that it will cause the car to turn its self.

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2009, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Bump steer issues is the reason I got the bushings. And I would have ordered a kit, if the had one for SN95 cars. But all the kits were for foxes and had a shorter wide rack and a different shaft. The SN95 shaft is a replacement from the colum back under the dash, where the kit that my friend got for his fox, was only half that to the rag joint.

I rethreaded the tie rods and set it up as stright as I can get it. And I can reuse my old bushings if it turns out I done need the off sets. Although not sure I shouldeven be worried about bump steer with the car being a drag only car, unless when I come back down on the front tires, that it will cause the car to turn its self.

The only reason for offset rack bushings is for oil pan clearance. Use a bump steer kit to correct any bump steer issues. That is straight from AJE.

Here is the kit. Flaming River FR1892 - Flaming River Manual Rack and Pinion Steering Systems or this one Flaming River FR1892D - Flaming River Manual Rack and Pinion Steering Systems or this one Flaming River FR1892Q - Flaming River Manual Rack and Pinion Steering Systems

MustangMatt96GT · June 2nd, 2009, 12:19 PM

None of those had the 1509M steering shaft I needed. I also needed a 1508 rack. I wish I were building a fox, it would have been much cheaper.

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

None of those had the 1509M steering shaft I needed. I also needed a 1508 rack. I wish I were building a fox, it would have been much cheaper.

Those aren't fox body kits, those are kits for your car. 94-04. They all have the manual rack and shaft for your car. The part number is the kit part number, not the rack part number. I've used them in a couple of cars now.

MustangMatt96GT · June 2nd, 2009, 01:49 PM

Oh, well my mistake. When I called flaming river, they said that they didn't have a kit that would work for me. Must have gotten the obama supporter worker there that isnot willing to help and is there just to cause problems.

1fst5.0 · June 2nd, 2009, 02:48 PM

u gotta have the car sitting the way it would normally sit, with u and all the drivetrain in it, in order to get the alignment dead on

superbean · June 2nd, 2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Oh, well my mistake. When I called flaming river, they said that they didn't have a kit that would work for me. Must have gotten the obama supporter worker there that isnot willing to help and is there just to cause problems.

what does that even mean??

Iwannagofast · June 2nd, 2009, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by superbean

what does that even mean??

guessing your an obama supporter.....haha

May 31st, 2009, 09:36 PM	#1
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Flaming River Steering Issue Well since I could not get my steering to work, I ordered up a Flaming River Manual Rack and Pinion for 94-04 cars. Turns out that I now need different outer tie rod ends (different thread than the stock ones). I also am going to have to buy one of there steering shafts or get an adapter. Has anybody ever had the thread issue with fox body cars? Maybe my SN95 is just different than the Fox cars. Also anybody used the adapter rather than the whole steering shaft? Thanks Matt __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 31st, 2009, 09:48 PM	#3
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	not going to beable to rethread it... I wish it were that easy... what a money pit this thing has become... __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 31st, 2009, 10:26 PM	#5
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	I am just sick and tired of it.... cannot wait for the first time i can pull it into the trailer knowing that the track is only 7 miles down the road... __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 31st, 2009, 10:38 PM	#7
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	11.80s on motor would make me happy at this altitude... thats plenty fast for an 18 year old. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 1st, 2009, 04:58 PM	#8
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Called Flaming River... and I have to buy a special shaft, because I used a SN95 car. They also just told me to use a Tap on the inside of the outer tie rod to fix the issue of being the wrong thread. Hope this is correct. But i ordered the shaft now too! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 2nd, 2009, 12:37 AM	#9
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Look!!! The car turns left again! now i just got to wait for my steering shaft from summit to come. And also got some offset rack bushings. Then I can put the car back on the ground, and possibly take it to the alignment shop as is, or put the engine in it, and then take it to the alignment shop after the car runs... __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 2nd, 2009, 11:16 AM	#10
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	You should have bought the kit, not just the rack. The kit comes with outer tie rod ends and the steering shaft. Why do you want offset rack bushings? Do you need more oil pan clearance? __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

June 2nd, 2009, 11:24 AM	#11
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Bump steer issues is the reason I got the bushings. And I would have ordered a kit, if the had one for SN95 cars. But all the kits were for foxes and had a shorter wide rack and a different shaft. The SN95 shaft is a replacement from the colum back under the dash, where the kit that my friend got for his fox, was only half that to the rag joint. I rethreaded the tie rods and set it up as stright as I can get it. And I can reuse my old bushings if it turns out I done need the off sets. Although not sure I shouldeven be worried about bump steer with the car being a drag only car, unless when I come back down on the front tires, that it will cause the car to turn its self. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 2nd, 2009, 12:19 PM	#13
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	None of those had the 1509M steering shaft I needed. I also needed a 1508 rack. I wish I were building a fox, it would have been much cheaper. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 2nd, 2009, 01:49 PM	#15
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	Oh, well my mistake. When I called flaming river, they said that they didn't have a kit that would work for me. Must have gotten the obama supporter worker there that isnot willing to help and is there just to cause problems. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 2nd, 2009, 02:48 PM	#16
1fst5.0 Regular 1986 mustang gt Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: el paso tx Posts: 189 iTrader: 0 reviews	u gotta have the car sitting the way it would normally sit, with u and all the drivetrain in it, in order to get the alignment dead on

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