Radiator comparison: Mishimoto v Fluidune

BurninRubb3r · June 11th, 2009, 01:08 PM

A customer at my uncles shop I work at was torn between the Mishimoto and Fluidyne radiators, so we ordered both and decided to write up a comparison for everyone.

These are for the 94-95 and 97 stangs, although I'm sure the rest are the same. We looked at 3 areas - the support plate, the shock resistance, and the radiator core. This was meant to be non-objective side-by-side comparison.

The Fluidyne:

The Mishimoto:

1: Support plate

The Fluidyne's support plate was 0.2mm in thickness, and the Mishimotos was 2.0mm (measured with a micrometer)

The Fluidyne also had no welding in the support plate, while the Mishimoto's was strongly welded.

The Mishimoto radiator plate has two layers, one is the support plate and the other is the side plate. The Mishimoto unit is much stronger.

2: Shock resistance

The Fluidyne has a hollow tube design, and the Mishimoto is a solid tube

3: The core

Mishimoto has a three row core as opposed to the Fluidyne's two row, enforcing the shock resistance of the Mishi even more.

Our conclusion:

Based on these factors in the visual side-by-side comparison, the Mishimoto appears to be the stronger unit and the better choice. From what I understand, Mishimoto used to have a two-row design, but changed it to the three row because the two-rows kept breaking. Fluidyne's were having the same problem, but clearly they have not yet switched designs to the more resistant three row.

Iwannagofast · June 11th, 2009, 01:11 PM

what are the prices of the two

AzSonicSnake · June 11th, 2009, 01:14 PM

very nice write up. very cool side by side. and with my fluidyne leaking, might make my replacement be a different brand.

89Domindart · June 11th, 2009, 02:00 PM

Looks like Mishimoto wins me, reminds me of my high school best friends name was matt mizushima!

BurninRubb3r · June 12th, 2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Iwannagofast

what are the prices of the two

I dont remember off the top of my head, but I know the Mishimoto was significantly less expensive.

grnstang · June 12th, 2009, 04:21 PM

wow that is great to know. i always thought mishimoto was a knock off brand...they are pretty cheap compared to the fluidyne from what i can remember

casper gt · June 12th, 2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by AzSonicSnake

very nice write up. very cool side by side. and with my fluidyne leaking, might make my replacement be a different brand.

I'd be doing a little more research as the Mishimoto rad's for 99-04 have almost a daily write up on this or any number of web site's as to how they don't fit right & leak right outta the box. I've seen 3 fail myself & you couldn't give me one, IMO complete POS. plus seems a little strange that someone would buy two rad's just to cut up & take pictures of to post on a web site.

95BlackStang · June 13th, 2009, 12:02 AM

just go to show you, just bc its more expensive doesn't mean its better

nolife · June 13th, 2009, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by casper gt

I'd be doing a little more research as the Mishimoto rad's for 99-04 have almost a daily write up on this or any number of web site's as to how they don't fit right & leak right outta the box. I've seen 3 fail myself & you couldn't give me one, IMO complete POS. plus seems a little strange that someone would buy two rad's just to cut up & take pictures of to post on a web site.

I agree, the post sounds too much like a shill. I see the exact post on another site as well including the wrong spelling of Fluidyne in the title. That alone is not really an issue and no big deal but enough to make you wonder.

I also see some other posts and links BurninRubb3r made referencing Mishimoto as well so either it is a really happy customer or these are not true unbiased opinions.

BurninRubb3r · June 15th, 2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by casper gt

I'd be doing a little more research as the Mishimoto rad's for 99-04 have almost a daily write up on this or any number of web site's as to how they don't fit right & leak right outta the box. I've seen 3 fail myself & you couldn't give me one, IMO complete POS. plus seems a little strange that someone would buy two rad's just to cut up & take pictures of to post on a web site.

We bought both because whichever one the customer at the time didn't want can just be sold to someone else later... it's called keeping an inventory.

Originally Posted by nolife

I agree, the post sounds too much like a shill. I see the exact post on another site as well including the wrong spelling of Fluidyne in the title. That alone is not really an issue and no big deal but enough to make you wonder.
I also see some other posts and links BurninRubb3r made referencing Mishimoto as well so either it is a really happy customer or these are not true unbiased opinions.

I just copied and pasted from forum to forum, its me in each place. I lurk a lot and I rarely post but I see Mishi get a bad rep in some places, I'm just sticking up for a company that has been good to me, that's all. The rad comparison was meant to be non-objective, if the Fluidyne was better I would have said so. What do I care, neither company was paying me to do this..

1slo5.0 · June 15th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by casper gt

I'd be doing a little more research as the Mishimoto rad's for 99-04 have almost a daily write up on this or any number of web site's as to how they don't fit right & leak right outta the box. I've seen 3 fail myself & you couldn't give me one, IMO complete POS. plus seems a little strange that someone would buy two rad's just to cut up & take pictures of to post on a web site.

I agree with this statement. I've seen aot people complain about the fitment and quality of the Mishimoto crap.

Sounds like a little promotional spam to me....

BurninRubb3r · June 15th, 2009, 01:55 PM

LOL! Why does everyone assume that someone talking good about a company is spam? Especially when I posted pictures with the differences of both rads?

1slo5.0 · June 15th, 2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by BurninRubb3r

LOL! Why does everyone assume that someone talking good about a company is spam? Especially when I posted pictures with the differences of both rads?

Fluidyne is a well known company that is known for quality. Mishimoto is a company that has known fitment and quality issues. You come on here saying Mishimoto is fits better, looks better, stronger and overall better quality. Its like you are Mishimoto's spokesman trying to clear their name across the internet.

BurninRubb3r · June 15th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0

Fluidyne is a well known company that is known for quality. Mishimoto is a company that has known fitment and quality issues. You come on here saying Mishimoto is fits better, looks better, stronger and overall better quality. Its like you are Mishimoto's spokesman trying to clear their name across the internet.

I guess I see your point. Regardless, it's not completely unheard of for a newer company to make good products. Looks to me like they have fixed their design flaws.

Our customer was happy, that's all I'm really worried about. I was just putting the information I found out there for the members of the forums because similar threads have assisted me in the past.

flattusmaximus78 · June 15th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Whats the name of your company?

klouierocks · June 15th, 2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Whats the name of your company?

Mishimoto

scottmach · June 15th, 2009, 06:44 PM

I run the Mishimoto in my Mach1. No leaks and fit perfect. And at 25 lbs. of boost and 718 rwhp/735rwtq the car never goes above 180-185. Mishimoto is big with the road race guys.

1slo5.0 · June 22nd, 2009, 08:06 PM

Hmmmmmmm..........so much for reliability and better construction....

mishimoto blues

flattusmaximus78 · June 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM

Lol I knew this thread would pop back up.

BurninRubb3r · June 23rd, 2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by 1slo5.0

Hmmmmmmm..........so much for reliability and better construction....

mishimoto blues

....

Originally Posted by scottmach

I run the Mishimoto in my Mach1. No leaks and fit perfect. And at 25 lbs. of boost and 718 rwhp/735rwtq the car never goes above 180-185. Mishimoto is big with the road race guys.

June 11th, 2009, 01:08 PM	#1
BurninRubb3r Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 64 iTrader: 0 reviews	Radiator comparison: Mishimoto v Fluidyne A customer at my uncles shop I work at was torn between the Mishimoto and Fluidyne radiators, so we ordered both and decided to write up a comparison for everyone. These are for the 94-95 and 97 stangs, although I'm sure the rest are the same. We looked at 3 areas - the support plate, the shock resistance, and the radiator core. This was meant to be non-objective side-by-side comparison. The Fluidyne: The Mishimoto: 1: Support plate The Fluidyne's support plate was 0.2mm in thickness, and the Mishimotos was 2.0mm (measured with a micrometer) The Fluidyne also had no welding in the support plate, while the Mishimoto's was strongly welded. The Mishimoto radiator plate has two layers, one is the support plate and the other is the side plate. The Mishimoto unit is much stronger. 2: Shock resistance The Fluidyne has a hollow tube design, and the Mishimoto is a solid tube 3: The core Mishimoto has a three row core as opposed to the Fluidyne's two row, enforcing the shock resistance of the Mishi even more. Our conclusion: Based on these factors in the visual side-by-side comparison, the Mishimoto appears to be the stronger unit and the better choice. From what I understand, Mishimoto used to have a two-row design, but changed it to the three row because the two-rows kept breaking. Fluidyne's were having the same problem, but clearly they have not yet switched designs to the more resistant three row. Last edited by BurninRubb3r; June 15th, 2009 at 01:48 PM.

June 11th, 2009, 01:14 PM	#3
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,640 iTrader: 1 reviews	very nice write up. very cool side by side. and with my fluidyne leaking, might make my replacement be a different brand. __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

June 11th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#4
89Domindart Enthusiast 89mustanglx5.0 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: smyrna ga Posts: 846 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 0 reviews	Looks like Mishimoto wins me, reminds me of my high school best friends name was matt mizushima! __________________ looking for a mustang again.!

June 12th, 2009, 04:21 PM	#6
grnstang Hardcore Enthusiast 91 LX 13.7@101 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norwalk OH Posts: 1,426 iTrader: 1 reviews	wow that is great to know. i always thought mishimoto was a knock off brand...they are pretty cheap compared to the fluidyne from what i can remember __________________

June 15th, 2009, 03:01 PM	#15
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	Whats the name of your company? __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

June 15th, 2009, 01:55 PM	#12
BurninRubb3r Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 64 iTrader: 0 reviews	LOL! Why does everyone assume that someone talking good about a company is spam? Especially when I posted pictures with the differences of both rads?

June 15th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#17
scottmach Regular 2011 Mustang GT premium Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: East Haven Ct. Posts: 140 iTrader: 0 reviews	I run the Mishimoto in my Mach1. No leaks and fit perfect. And at 25 lbs. of boost and 718 rwhp/735rwtq the car never goes above 180-185. Mishimoto is big with the road race guys. __________________ 2011 Mustang GT Automatic Kooks catback, Lethal off road H-Pipe, BMR lowering springs, BMR lower control arms, BMR relocation brackets, BMR adjustable panhard bar, JLT CAI, VMP tune 2003 Mach1 Sold 2.3 Whipple @ 25 lbs. 718 rwhp/735 rwtq

June 22nd, 2009, 08:06 PM	#18
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Hmmmmmmm..........so much for reliability and better construction.... mishimoto blues __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

June 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM	#19
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	Lol I knew this thread would pop back up. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

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