What kinda times should I be running in the 1/4?

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Gentlemen,
I just joined here and even though I'm new to this site, I'm not new to the game. I've owned 5 stangs over the years and just recently acquired a new one that I really could use some advise on. I'm curious as to what this car should run in the qtr mile and any ideas on what I should do when taking it to the track for its maiden voyage. Just to tip the iceburg, the car has a 347 dss stroker with A-4 block, rotating assembly, forged crankshaft, TFS heads, lunati cam, vortech R-1 charger at about 8lbs of boost. tko 600 trans, 3.73 re, lots of tuning and last dyno in March of this year before I bought it was 602 rwhp w/ 593 ftlbs of torque.
Car has nitto extreme drags on the back but still won't hook. It has a 10pt cage, complete suspension upgrades all that you can imagine including subframes, upper/lowers, panhard bar, blah blah.
I wanted to pick up a car that someone sunk all the money into and all I got to do is just drive it. But I was really wondering what this baby should run theoretically?? Thanks for the help guys.

flattusmaximus78 · July 9th, 2009, 12:07 AM

My buddy steves s trimmed 331 did 560 on pump and trapped 136 on pump gas. Could never get it to hook so it always ran 11.1

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:10 AM

Here is some more updated info on the car that I just dragged out.... If I were to get some slicks on this car and could get some hook on it, I'm thinking 10's are definitely possible. Anybody argue that?

Ford motorsport A4 block (4 bolt mains) bored .040
Dss Pro-XR 347 rotating assembly
-DSS Pro-XR forged steel crank
-DSS Pro-XR H-beam rods with ARP 2000 bolts
-DSS Pro-XR customer forged blower pistons (8.5:1 Comp ratio, .040)
-Rotating assembly balanced @ 28oz.
Canton 7qt oil pan
double-roller timing chain
high-volume oil pump
Motorsport lifters
TFS High-port aluminum heads Stage II porting 2.08 intake valves (completely gone through during rebuild)
Vortech/Saleen ported upper and lower intake manifold
70mm throttle body
90mm Pro-M mass air meter
MSD 50# injectors
High-volume water pump
93 cobra water pump pulley
New power steering pump
New mechanical fan assembly
Fluidyne 2 row aluminum radiator
Twin electric flex-a-lite pusher fans with automatic thermostat
Superchip-3 program flip chip
MSD coil
Motorsport wires
130 amp alternator
MSD 6al BTM

Vortech R-trim blower (flows 1100CFM like a T-trim)
Vortech 10-rib pulley setup
Anderson ford motosports vortech power pipe
2.50 Vortech blower pulley (and 2.80 included)
28oz Romac balancer
Vortech mondo bypass valve

Autometer fuel pressure gauge
Autometer temperature gauge
Autometer Air/fuel gauge
Autometer boost gauge
Autometer oil pressure gauge
MSD shift light

Transmission

New Tremec TKO 600 Transmission
New Bellhousing
New Mcleod Street twin-disk clutch assembly
New motorsport cable and adjustable quadrant
Ford motorsport aluminum driveshaft
28oz steel flywheel
MGW shifter

Rearend

Moser 31 spline axles
31 spline Auburn carrier (I believe it's an auburn)
Motorsport 3.73 gear
Aluminum TA cover with studs

Brakes

Complete M2300 Cobra brake kit
-13" front cobra rotors
-Cobra calipers
-Cobra master cylinder
-Cobra rear brakes
-New pads on all corners
-Steel brake lines (front)

Suspension

10-point fully welded custom roll-cage with driver door swingout bar
D&D K-member
D&D A-arms
Front coilovers
-90/10's
Subframe connectors
Koni-yellow rear shocks
Southside lower control arms
Plate steel torque boxes (impossible to break/twist ask Coupe)
Adjustable upper control arms
Heavyduty rear swaybar, stock front swaybar

Fuel system

Weldon 2025 Fuel Pump (flows a ton of fuel and is loud)
Braided lines (I believe -10 and -10)
Large internal fuel-tank pickup assembly (not sumped works excellent!)
Vortech fuel rails
Paxtox Fuel pressure regulator
Ton of earls fittings

Exhaust

Ford Motorsport shorty headers
MAC off-road H-pipe
Flowmaster 2.5” American Thunder catback with stainless tips
2 chamber flowsmasters (40 series)

Battery and Steel battery box in trunk Optima battery

SN95 mustang GT wheels with new front continential (95%) tires and nitto drags out back (50%) 245/40/17 all around

FX4DTUF · July 9th, 2009, 12:33 AM

you can fit up to a 275 in the back without a spacer if you widened it up a lil bit that might help since your running 245's

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:39 AM

I appreciate the tip FX4, I'm about 50% right now on the rears, so I'll be putting that to use in the near future when it comes time to swap. Thanks much.

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:42 AM

Any idea what kinda psi should be run in those nittos at the track? Someone told me take it to 10 but that sounded real low....

93hatch · July 9th, 2009, 12:47 AM

dont even go to the track on the nittos, i couldnt get them to hook in my fox at 272whp

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:48 AM

Did you switch over to slicks or any luck with another tire??

superbean · July 9th, 2009, 12:54 AM

Your car will HAVE to have slicks with that kind of power. I see your from georgia, i hope you dont run at commerce, it's the slickest track in the country i swear lol

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:57 AM

holy **** thanks for the heads up bro, thats where I was heading on Friday....lol

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 12:59 AM

Any ideas on Brainerd in Ringgold?? Its only 1/8th mile, but I'm really wanting to just cut my teeth for now till I get some time in.

93hatch · July 9th, 2009, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by nined3stang

Did you switch over to slicks or any luck with another tire??

slicks slicks slicksl slickslksliclkcs

superbean · July 9th, 2009, 01:09 AM

i mean i run at commerce all the time, but don't expect awesome 60' times lol. I will probably be there friday as well.

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 01:13 AM

What car are you running? I'll keep a lookout for ya. I'm gonna trailer mine for sure, just for safety sake. Also, any ideas on good mustang performance shops around the GA area? I noticed ur from NC but I been stumped here lately trying to find somewhere to pickup some stuff.

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Its been a while since I've put a car on the track at Commerce, but I was there a few months ago as a spect. I'll prob just take it slow first couple passes till I get a feel for it. No doubt its gonna be a different beast in this car compared to my 93 convt running 13's...lol. Thanks for the tips.

FX4DTUF · July 9th, 2009, 01:26 AM

well if i was you id run m/t et streets they hook like a mother fucker with 20 lbs in them i have them on my fox right now 28x10.5 15's and they fit perfect with what i have on my car but idk about yours

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 01:28 AM

Where'd u get them from? Then go with some skinnies up front? Kinda the same route I was thinking about taking but I'm not sure about backspacing, height all that stuff.

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 01:30 AM

FYI, I got the 5 lug conversion on it and the upgraded cobra brake system, will they mount up ok?

FX4DTUF · July 9th, 2009, 01:35 AM

they should yeah mine are weld racing wheels 15x9's in the back and 15x4 in the front i think i could be wrong but here's what mine looks like with them on there

nined3stang · July 9th, 2009, 01:39 AM

Looks sick man...I like it. I appreciate all the advice. I'm just gonna check for fitment when I go to pick some up....

July 9th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#1
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	What kinda times should I be running in the 1/4? Gentlemen, I just joined here and even though I'm new to this site, I'm not new to the game. I've owned 5 stangs over the years and just recently acquired a new one that I really could use some advise on. I'm curious as to what this car should run in the qtr mile and any ideas on what I should do when taking it to the track for its maiden voyage. Just to tip the iceburg, the car has a 347 dss stroker with A-4 block, rotating assembly, forged crankshaft, TFS heads, lunati cam, vortech R-1 charger at about 8lbs of boost. tko 600 trans, 3.73 re, lots of tuning and last dyno in March of this year before I bought it was 602 rwhp w/ 593 ftlbs of torque. Car has nitto extreme drags on the back but still won't hook. It has a 10pt cage, complete suspension upgrades all that you can imagine including subframes, upper/lowers, panhard bar, blah blah. I wanted to pick up a car that someone sunk all the money into and all I got to do is just drive it. But I was really wondering what this baby should run theoretically?? Thanks for the help guys.

July 9th, 2009, 12:07 AM	#2
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	My buddy steves s trimmed 331 did 560 on pump and trapped 136 on pump gas. Could never get it to hook so it always ran 11.1 __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

July 9th, 2009, 12:33 AM	#4
FX4DTUF MM's Ford Truck Guy 99 ranger,2010 ranger does nice burnouts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,382 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can fit up to a 275 in the back without a spacer if you widened it up a lil bit that might help since your running 245's __________________ 1999 xlt 2.5 ranger lowered 5/6 on 17in bullits 2010 4.0 xlt ranger lowered 4/5 on 18in dd bullits

July 9th, 2009, 12:47 AM	#7
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	dont even go to the track on the nittos, i couldnt get them to hook in my fox at 272whp __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

July 9th, 2009, 12:54 AM	#9
superbean Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Cobra 13.24@105.66 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,778 iTrader: 0 reviews	Your car will HAVE to have slicks with that kind of power. I see your from georgia, i hope you dont run at commerce, it's the slickest track in the country i swear lol __________________ weeee foooord!

July 9th, 2009, 12:10 AM	#3
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here is some more updated info on the car that I just dragged out.... If I were to get some slicks on this car and could get some hook on it, I'm thinking 10's are definitely possible. Anybody argue that? Ford motorsport A4 block (4 bolt mains) bored .040 Dss Pro-XR 347 rotating assembly -DSS Pro-XR forged steel crank -DSS Pro-XR H-beam rods with ARP 2000 bolts -DSS Pro-XR customer forged blower pistons (8.5:1 Comp ratio, .040) -Rotating assembly balanced @ 28oz. Canton 7qt oil pan double-roller timing chain high-volume oil pump Motorsport lifters TFS High-port aluminum heads Stage II porting 2.08 intake valves (completely gone through during rebuild) Vortech/Saleen ported upper and lower intake manifold 70mm throttle body 90mm Pro-M mass air meter MSD 50# injectors High-volume water pump 93 cobra water pump pulley New power steering pump New mechanical fan assembly Fluidyne 2 row aluminum radiator Twin electric flex-a-lite pusher fans with automatic thermostat Superchip-3 program flip chip MSD coil Motorsport wires 130 amp alternator MSD 6al BTM Vortech R-trim blower (flows 1100CFM like a T-trim) Vortech 10-rib pulley setup Anderson ford motosports vortech power pipe 2.50 Vortech blower pulley (and 2.80 included) 28oz Romac balancer Vortech mondo bypass valve Autometer fuel pressure gauge Autometer temperature gauge Autometer Air/fuel gauge Autometer boost gauge Autometer oil pressure gauge MSD shift light Transmission New Tremec TKO 600 Transmission New Bellhousing New Mcleod Street twin-disk clutch assembly New motorsport cable and adjustable quadrant Ford motorsport aluminum driveshaft 28oz steel flywheel MGW shifter Rearend Moser 31 spline axles 31 spline Auburn carrier (I believe it's an auburn) Motorsport 3.73 gear Aluminum TA cover with studs Brakes Complete M2300 Cobra brake kit -13" front cobra rotors -Cobra calipers -Cobra master cylinder -Cobra rear brakes -New pads on all corners -Steel brake lines (front) Suspension 10-point fully welded custom roll-cage with driver door swingout bar D&D K-member D&D A-arms Front coilovers -90/10's Subframe connectors Koni-yellow rear shocks Southside lower control arms Plate steel torque boxes (impossible to break/twist ask Coupe) Adjustable upper control arms Heavyduty rear swaybar, stock front swaybar Fuel system Weldon 2025 Fuel Pump (flows a ton of fuel and is loud) Braided lines (I believe -10 and -10) Large internal fuel-tank pickup assembly (not sumped works excellent!) Vortech fuel rails Paxtox Fuel pressure regulator Ton of earls fittings Exhaust Ford Motorsport shorty headers MAC off-road H-pipe Flowmaster 2.5” American Thunder catback with stainless tips 2 chamber flowsmasters (40 series) Battery and Steel battery box in trunk Optima battery SN95 mustang GT wheels with new front continential (95%) tires and nitto drags out back (50%) 245/40/17 all around

July 9th, 2009, 12:39 AM	#5
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	I appreciate the tip FX4, I'm about 50% right now on the rears, so I'll be putting that to use in the near future when it comes time to swap. Thanks much.

July 9th, 2009, 12:42 AM	#6
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Any idea what kinda psi should be run in those nittos at the track? Someone told me take it to 10 but that sounded real low....

July 9th, 2009, 12:48 AM	#8
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did you switch over to slicks or any luck with another tire??

July 9th, 2009, 12:57 AM	#10
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	holy **** thanks for the heads up bro, thats where I was heading on Friday....lol

July 9th, 2009, 12:59 AM	#11
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Any ideas on Brainerd in Ringgold?? Its only 1/8th mile, but I'm really wanting to just cut my teeth for now till I get some time in.

July 9th, 2009, 01:09 AM	#13
superbean Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Cobra 13.24@105.66 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,778 iTrader: 0 reviews	i mean i run at commerce all the time, but don't expect awesome 60' times lol. I will probably be there friday as well. __________________ weeee foooord!

July 9th, 2009, 01:13 AM	#14
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	What car are you running? I'll keep a lookout for ya. I'm gonna trailer mine for sure, just for safety sake. Also, any ideas on good mustang performance shops around the GA area? I noticed ur from NC but I been stumped here lately trying to find somewhere to pickup some stuff.

July 9th, 2009, 01:16 AM	#15
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Its been a while since I've put a car on the track at Commerce, but I was there a few months ago as a spect. I'll prob just take it slow first couple passes till I get a feel for it. No doubt its gonna be a different beast in this car compared to my 93 convt running 13's...lol. Thanks for the tips.

July 9th, 2009, 01:26 AM	#16
FX4DTUF MM's Ford Truck Guy 99 ranger,2010 ranger does nice burnouts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,382 iTrader: 0 reviews	well if i was you id run m/t et streets they hook like a mother fucker with 20 lbs in them i have them on my fox right now 28x10.5 15's and they fit perfect with what i have on my car but idk about yours __________________ 1999 xlt 2.5 ranger lowered 5/6 on 17in bullits 2010 4.0 xlt ranger lowered 4/5 on 18in dd bullits Last edited by FX4DTUF; July 9th, 2009 at 01:32 AM.

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July 9th, 2009, 01:28 AM	#17
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Where'd u get them from? Then go with some skinnies up front? Kinda the same route I was thinking about taking but I'm not sure about backspacing, height all that stuff.

July 9th, 2009, 01:30 AM	#18
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	FYI, I got the 5 lug conversion on it and the upgraded cobra brake system, will they mount up ok?

July 9th, 2009, 01:35 AM	#19
FX4DTUF MM's Ford Truck Guy 99 ranger,2010 ranger does nice burnouts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,382 iTrader: 0 reviews	they should yeah mine are weld racing wheels 15x9's in the back and 15x4 in the front i think i could be wrong but here's what mine looks like with them on there __________________ 1999 xlt 2.5 ranger lowered 5/6 on 17in bullits 2010 4.0 xlt ranger lowered 4/5 on 18in dd bullits

July 9th, 2009, 01:39 AM	#20
nined3stang Newbie 1991 Calypso LX Hatch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	Looks sick man...I like it. I appreciate all the advice. I'm just gonna check for fitment when I go to pick some up....

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