car wont start

87gtmustang · July 21st, 2009, 11:44 PM

i finally got the car all put back together and it wont start. itll turn over and act like it wants to start but it wont. all the spark plugs are getting spark and it smells like its getting gas. i got two tubes on the back of the upper intake that i dont know what hooks up to mayb thatll change y it wont start.

1slo5.0 · July 22nd, 2009, 12:22 AM

What was taken apart? Did you have the distributor out? Did you have the spark plug wires off?

87gtmustang · July 22nd, 2009, 12:32 AM

yes to both but i pulled the heads off. i put the distributor off but i put it wright back where it was when i pulled it and the sparks plugs in the same place.

1slo5.0 · July 22nd, 2009, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by 87gtmustang

yes to both but i pulled the heads off. i put the distributor off but i put it wright back where it was when i pulled it and the sparks plugs in the same place.

You might want to double check the firing order and verify that the distributor is phased correctly. I'm willing to bet your problem is related to the distributor and/or firing order.

87gtmustang · July 22nd, 2009, 09:44 AM

ya i checked the firing order like 5 times

1slo5.0 · July 22nd, 2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by 87gtmustang

ya i checked the firing order like 5 times

And its wired 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 and run counter clockwise on the distributor?

If so you need to verify the distributor is in correctly and get #1 cylinder to TDC on the compression stroke.

87gtmustang · July 22nd, 2009, 11:26 AM

thats for the ho 5.0 tho i tried that order and the order 1542678

and tdc whats that

t70 · July 22nd, 2009, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by 87gtmustang

thats for the ho 5.0 tho i tried that order and the order 1542678

and tdc whats that

pull the number 1 sparkplug and turn the engine by hand with your finger sealing the plug hole til you feel the pressure push against your finger, thats the compression stroke.
look in or feel inside with something and while still turning the motor by hand watch for the piston to come up as far as its going to thats top dead center on # 1
put distributor in the engine while keeping the rotor pointed to the # 1 terminal ( you can just make a mark on the body of the dist even with the #1 terminal
it may move a bit off the mark as you put it in when the gears mesh but that should get you in phase. now you'll still have to get the timing set when its running

if you want to search the technique to find pics it's called dead timing the engine

good luck

87gtmustang · July 22nd, 2009, 01:02 PM

got the car started it wont start all the time but we gotta mess with the distributor and pull off the cold air. but it still aint running just right. try to give it any gas it dies

superbean · July 22nd, 2009, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by 87gtmustang

got the car started it wont start all the time but we gotta mess with the distributor and pull off the cold air. but it still aint running just right. try to give it any gas it dies

timing problem eh

93hatch · July 22nd, 2009, 01:24 PM

timing/firing order is fucked up. And plug those extra vacuum lines coming off of the intake

93hatch · July 22nd, 2009, 01:32 PM

youre also missing a nut on that top bolt, do you have all of the nuts on? including the one inside the intake behind the cover?

1slo5.0 · July 22nd, 2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by 87gtmustang

got the car started it wont start all the time but we gotta mess with the distributor and pull off the cold air. but it still aint running just right. try to give it any gas it dies

Timing is retarded.

Originally Posted by 93hatch

youre also missing a nut on that top bolt, do you have all of the nuts on? including the one inside the intake behind the cover?

Good catch. That is a major vacuum leak there.

87gtmustang · July 23rd, 2009, 03:26 PM

ya i figured where one line went for sure and what sucks is i got it runnin about ten mins before i had to go to work and i gotta go back and tighten down the rocker arms

87gtmustang · July 25th, 2009, 01:58 PM

pluged all the vacume leaks. i figured out by looking at pics that the rotor on the distributor was a little wrong it spun very little to the right when installing but it cranks up and idles fine still needs to mess with the timming a little

July 22nd, 2009, 12:22 AM	#2
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	What was taken apart? Did you have the distributor out? Did you have the spark plug wires off? __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

July 22nd, 2009, 12:32 AM	#3
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes to both but i pulled the heads off. i put the distributor off but i put it wright back where it was when i pulled it and the sparks plugs in the same place. __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

July 22nd, 2009, 09:44 AM	#5
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya i checked the firing order like 5 times __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

July 22nd, 2009, 11:26 AM	#7
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats for the ho 5.0 tho i tried that order and the order 1542678 and tdc whats that __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

July 22nd, 2009, 01:02 PM	#9
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	got the car started it wont start all the time but we gotta mess with the distributor and pull off the cold air. but it still aint running just right. try to give it any gas it dies __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

July 21st, 2009, 11:44 PM	#1
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	car wont start i finally got the car all put back together and it wont start. itll turn over and act like it wants to start but it wont. all the spark plugs are getting spark and it smells like its getting gas. i got two tubes on the back of the upper intake that i dont know what hooks up to mayb thatll change y it wont start. __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

July 22nd, 2009, 01:24 PM	#11
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	timing/firing order is fucked up. And plug those extra vacuum lines coming off of the intake __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

July 22nd, 2009, 01:32 PM	#12
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	youre also missing a nut on that top bolt, do you have all of the nuts on? including the one inside the intake behind the cover? __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

July 23rd, 2009, 03:26 PM	#14
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya i figured where one line went for sure and what sucks is i got it runnin about ten mins before i had to go to work and i gotta go back and tighten down the rocker arms __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

July 25th, 2009, 01:58 PM	#15
87gtmustang Regular 1987 mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tx Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	pluged all the vacume leaks. i figured out by looking at pics that the rotor on the distributor was a little wrong it spun very little to the right when installing but it cranks up and idles fine still needs to mess with the timming a little __________________ 5.0, steeda short shifter, edelbrock intake upper and lower, bbk cold air intake, 3.73, b303 cam, 65 mm throttle body, 65mm mass air, 24 lbs injectors, h pipe, dual flows dump and more to come

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