I need a rough figure

WilltheThrill · February 9th, 2007, 03:20 AM

I need a rough figure of how much money I'll need to spend. Im in the military and I have a 86' 5.0 back home that my mom's keepin. May sound goofy, but one of my goals is to have that car do a wheel-stand at least a foot tall or more. I know most of the basic things I'll need (alot of horses and torque, really good tranny and clutch, really good suspension setup, ) but I dont know how much money I would have to spend to get the car to do that.

How much $?

How many horses would I need?

Thanx in advance for any opinions.

FIVE-0 · February 9th, 2007, 12:42 PM

A lot of getting the wheels up has to do with your suspension, so that is a must do

WilltheThrill · February 9th, 2007, 09:13 PM

yeah ive heard that, i always wondered just how important a specific susp. setup is

TT86 · February 10th, 2007, 03:51 AM

To get the front tires off the ground the FIRST thing to think about is suspension, and if you do it the right way, you are looking at a LOT of money! Especially if you have somebody else do the work for you...

Stangzilla · February 11th, 2007, 12:50 PM

You should have atleast a locker, 31 spline axles atleast I recommend, aftermarket rear control arms, correct springs, rear fully adjustable front struts and rear shocks. Stuff like that. Other things that help are aftermarket K-Members and control arms take quite a bit of weight off the front. Of course a good set of slicks and the know-how to launch at the track.. As far as HP goes that varies. There are 13 second cars that can pull the wheels but you say you want a foot off the ground and even with the right suspension that prob will take a bit more HP. I dont know how much but I would guess it would take at least 350-400hp to get-em up that high.. I could be wrong about that though..

Darrell · February 12th, 2007, 07:08 AM

Pulling the front tires is easy. Keeping the front tires on the ground gets to be a challenge after a while.

Cheap Mustang wheelie = nitrous kit, slicks, 4.10s, 90/10 struts, good rear control arms and 6000 rpm launch.

Stangzilla · February 12th, 2007, 01:09 PM

[quote]Cheap Mustang wheelie = nitrous kit, slicks, 4.10s, 90/10 struts, good rear control arms and 6000 rpm launch.

+1
That is the cheap way but sooner or later you will brake an axle..

TurboLX · February 12th, 2007, 04:31 PM

you would need some suspension work, 4.10 gear ratio some more power to the motor like a supercharger

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

You should have atleast a locker, 31 spline axles atleast I recommend, aftermarket rear control arms, correct springs, rear fully adjustable front struts and rear shocks. Stuff like that. Other things that help are aftermarket K-Members and control arms take quite a bit of weight off the front. Of course a good set of slicks and the know-how to launch at the track.. As far as HP goes that varies. There are 13 second cars that can pull the wheels but you say you want a foot off the ground and even with the right suspension that prob will take a bit more HP. I dont know how much but I would guess it would take at least 350-400hp to get-em up that high.. I could be wrong about that though..

I definitely plan on havin 500+ hp, what I need to know is how much money approx. I'll need to spend

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by TurboLX

you would need some suspension work, 4.10 gear ratio some more power to the motor like a supercharger

thanx but I know all that, I need a rough figure on how much money

Ill most likely go with a 347 street fighter from Coast High Performance and then bolt on a supercharger or my turbo. I have a garrett turbo that I bought off my best friend, he said he thinks it can push up to 20psi, I might just use that, but I think I would rather run a twin-screw supercharger

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Dude you have the internet look the stuff up you know exactly what you want

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 08:29 PM

yeah Im gonna do that eventually, I just wanted to get peoples opinions on some figures and I thought this might be an alright topic to talk about

Tony_90fox · February 13th, 2007, 08:38 PM

i thought it was a good question. As far as money wise though, that is what stangzilla was telling you to use the rest of the internet for. Different companies are going to have different prices. And if you do not have any mechanical skills, installation on most of those parts are going to be a bitch. Gears are over $200 with a rebuild kit, and gear install can be anywhere from $200-400. Slicks =couple hundred. Nitrous = most likely more than $500 plus install. control arms = probably a couple hundred (Not for sure on both upper and lower), struts, not for sure on that either. Good thing is the 6000 RPM launch is free until you break something. But speaking of breaking something, you will want stronger axles too.

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 08:47 PM

+1

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 08:48 PM

thats what I meant. did not mean 2 sound like a dick

WilltheThrill · February 13th, 2007, 11:07 PM

somebody just throw a total number at me please

I know it depends on alot of things, I just wanted to know a simple number lol

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 11:34 PM

You should have atleast a locker, 31 spline axles atleast I recommend, aftermarket rear control arms, correct springs, rear fully adjustable front struts and rear shocks. Stuff like that. Other things that help are aftermarket K-Members and control arms take quite a bit of weight off the front. Of course a good set of slicks and the know-how to launch at the track.. As far as HP goes that varies. There are 13 second cars that can pull the wheels but you say you want a foot off the ground and even with the right suspension that prob will take a bit more HP. I dont know how much but I would guess it would take at least 350-400hp to get-em up that high.. I could be wrong about that though..

For the stuff I listed above you are lookin at around 2000-2500 give or take..
That of course does not include labor if you cant do it yourself..

Tony_90fox · February 13th, 2007, 11:34 PM

here is a rough estimate!

$9999999999999999 ( I fixed the number so it wouldnt be so big

In all seriousness. probably anywhere from 2-8 grand or more with all the install prices! We can help you out some, but do you really want us telling you every single part and product to put on your car. You could save money by going with other brands and then maybe when you are buying this stuff you might get a good deal. Who knows.

Here is what I have right now. A list of all the parts i want or have on my car. At first i put the price and the website i found it at on the paper. Then after i bought each part, I checked that item off the list. You are never going to be satisfied with what you have. you are always going to want more, so your list will grow, and you will have to spend more money on your car.

It is too hard to tell how much money, because you can have 11 second cars (more money spent on the car) not pull the wheels, but then you can have 13 second cars (Less money spent on the car) pull the wheels.

Stangzilla · February 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM

Yeah but you aint pullin the wheels a foot off the ground with a 13 second car thats for sure. Need at least a mid 11 sec car to pull-em that high..

WilltheThrill · February 14th, 2007, 12:36 AM

LOL, Tony u still dont get it........NO I dont wanna know what parts I'll need, where did u get that from, did you read my first post, all I wanted to know was how much money approximately and how many horses, I dont understand y people r tellin me about all these parts that I ALREADY know about, and I think I specifically said that I know all the basic parts I'll need, lol

sorry but I got a lil aggravated with how long it took to get opinions on how much money I may need to spend

February 10th, 2007, 03:51 AM	#4
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February 11th, 2007, 12:50 PM	#5
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	You should have atleast a locker, 31 spline axles atleast I recommend, aftermarket rear control arms, correct springs, rear fully adjustable front struts and rear shocks. Stuff like that. Other things that help are aftermarket K-Members and control arms take quite a bit of weight off the front. Of course a good set of slicks and the know-how to launch at the track.. As far as HP goes that varies. There are 13 second cars that can pull the wheels but you say you want a foot off the ground and even with the right suspension that prob will take a bit more HP. I dont know how much but I would guess it would take at least 350-400hp to get-em up that high.. I could be wrong about that though.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 12th, 2007, 07:08 AM	#6
Darrell Asshole™ 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 7,770	Pulling the front tires is easy. Keeping the front tires on the ground gets to be a challenge after a while. Cheap Mustang wheelie = nitrous kit, slicks, 4.10s, 90/10 struts, good rear control arms and 6000 rpm launch. __________________ Racing in memory of Dave Bandt 11/19/69 - 3/23/08 "he's traded his wheels for wings" Professor of Natural Aspiration Thanks to: Artie at Trick Flow, Dave at Team Z Motorsports, Brian at Total Engine Airflow and Harold at Furo Racecraft

February 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#11
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February 13th, 2007, 08:47 PM	#14
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February 9th, 2007, 12:42 PM	#2
FIVE-0 Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: burbs of Chicago Posts: 585	A lot of getting the wheels up has to do with your suspension, so that is a must do

February 12th, 2007, 04:31 PM	#8
TurboLX Banned 1990 Mustang LX Turbo 9.71@141.6 mph Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY Posts: 8,783	you would need some suspension work, 4.10 gear ratio some more power to the motor like a supercharger

February 13th, 2007, 08:48 PM	#15
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	thats what I meant. did not mean 2 sound like a dick __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 13th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#17
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	You should have atleast a locker, 31 spline axles atleast I recommend, aftermarket rear control arms, correct springs, rear fully adjustable front struts and rear shocks. Stuff like that. Other things that help are aftermarket K-Members and control arms take quite a bit of weight off the front. Of course a good set of slicks and the know-how to launch at the track.. As far as HP goes that varies. There are 13 second cars that can pull the wheels but you say you want a foot off the ground and even with the right suspension that prob will take a bit more HP. I dont know how much but I would guess it would take at least 350-400hp to get-em up that high.. I could be wrong about that though.. For the stuff I listed above you are lookin at around 2000-2500 give or take.. That of course does not include labor if you cant do it yourself.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

February 13th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#18
Tony_90fox On Probation Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,793	here is a rough estimate! $9999999999999999 ( I fixed the number so it wouldnt be so big In all seriousness. probably anywhere from 2-8 grand or more with all the install prices! We can help you out some, but do you really want us telling you every single part and product to put on your car. You could save money by going with other brands and then maybe when you are buying this stuff you might get a good deal. Who knows. Here is what I have right now. A list of all the parts i want or have on my car. At first i put the price and the website i found it at on the paper. Then after i bought each part, I checked that item off the list. You are never going to be satisfied with what you have. you are always going to want more, so your list will grow, and you will have to spend more money on your car. It is too hard to tell how much money, because you can have 11 second cars (more money spent on the car) not pull the wheels, but then you can have 13 second cars (Less money spent on the car) pull the wheels.

February 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM	#19
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,095	Yeah but you aint pullin the wheels a foot off the ground with a 13 second car thats for sure. Need at least a mid 11 sec car to pull-em that high.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

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